Would you Write a Negative Review?

[KY_TOP]

I thought about asking this Question about a month ago after my Bad Orange County Escort Experience.

 

Now I noted a few days ago a poster made negative experience comments about a certain Escort when the Escort announced his travel plans. His comments got deleted, inappropiate for travel section, and wondered why he never wrote a review on the guy. I have since found out there are others with similar Bad Experiences with the same Escort,(even had an escort to make a negative comment about the guy) but none of them gave him a negative review...WHY?

I've had an e-mail conversation with the original poster and he seems to have a legitimate beef. I told him he should have posted a Review.

 

Would you post a negative review?

 

I always felt I would write a negative review but now I wonder if I would. Hooboy offered to allow me to amend my previous review of the OC Escort in order to add my follow-up negative experience. I decided not to take him up on the offer for several reasons. I had promised the Escort, after a lengthy phone conversation I would not. Also, I knew that after all the MC discussion, a new review would flame things back up, and I just needed some closure. Also, I didn't feel like dodging spears plus a few more reasons.

 

I've noted others recently making not so glowing comments about Escorts in the Deli and adding that they did not post a bad review on the Escort.

 

Again, Why not?

Are we afraid of getting blasted with claims against us by the Escort in his response and accused of bad Hygiene? (#1 Escort excuse, even though I'm sure it does happen).

 

So, Would you write a Negative review? Then why or why not?

[+ Axiom2001]

KY Top, is a negative review is warranted; then write it.

In this review I would write the truth to diffuse anything that the escort might employ in his refuting what you've written, i.e. hygiene, etc.

 

I know I am impeccably clean when I seek the services of escorts; I even am virtually empty of food if I know that I might bottom for the guy, so in his explanation, he cannot (in all good conscience) state that I had dirty teeth, a foul-smelling mouth/breath, emitted some fecal material during and/or after his anal sex with me....... Good luck!

[Donnie]

>emitted some fecal material during

>and/or after his anal sex

 

You have a way with words. Ever consider writing porn?

[+ deej]

If the escort deserves a bad review, he should get a bad review. But you've got to own up to your end of it as well. I suspect you're willing.

 

I wrote a "bad" review once. It was actually pretty generous. He was cute (and I said that) and he was friendly (and I said that).

 

Reviews should first and foremost be honest. The escort has a chance to rebut -- he gets his say too. But if the review isn't honest this site isn't serving its purpose.

 

What you CAN'T and shouldn't do is bring it here to the court of public opinion first. The escorts always lose when you do that, and so do clients.

 

Write honest reviews. Always.

 

The rest will take care of itself.

[Guest ncm2169]

Read my review of Jack London (LA). There are good reviews, there are bad reviews, and then there are reviews which you could call lukewarm. Mine was the latter (for my experience), but I felt that other clients might be happier, so I told it like it was.

 

Hey, it's sex! Sex involves chemistry. Even if I don't have it with an escort, that doesn't mean another client wouldn't.

[+ Lucky]

Donnie's excrement slowly oozed out until his fingers typed faster and harder, exploding in a great burst against the screen. He was satisfied. Nature had won again. Donnie was whole.

 

I can write porn too!

[Guest Utopia]

Why you keep asking this same question in various ways is unrealistic. If you tend to submit reviews then you must write a legit negative review just as you would write a legit positive review. If not your reviews have little to no credibility.

 

For me I will continue to skip your reviews as anything more than glorified PR for an escort based on what you have written in the Message Center.

 

Your OC escort situation became the joke of the week.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>

>So, Would you write a Negative review? Then why or why not?

 

I not only would, I have... and I'll do it again if the circumstances warrant.

 

I have had a few lackluster experiences but that isn't sufficient for me to write a negative. People have bad days. Maybe it's me, maybe it's him -- these things happen. Maybe there just is no chemistry. Whose fault is that? Why would I write a negative under those circumstances. There is no indication to me that this would occur with other clients. What service would I be doing for clients to blackball an escort that they probably would have a good time with?

 

I reserve negative reviews for no-shows, which shows a lack of respect for the client, and for those engaging in rip-offs, represent a potential danger to clients, or otherwise manifests a significant disrespect for me as the client. Fortunately I have been blessed in my selections.

 

The lone negative was for an escort who engaged in repeated no-shows for repeated reschedules over a three day period. I know... I was a newbie. As a relative newbie, I sweated the prospect of suffering a hostile response (which occured). However, I decided that if this site is going to work then it has to have reviews -- fair positive and negative reviews alike. And if I was going to benefit from the reviews then I had a obligation to contribute.

 

Knowing the escort had the last word, I wrote the review carefully laying out the case with facts. I have no regrets and I think it probably gave the guy a wake up call. He was young and relatively new to the business He received a few positive reviews after that.

 

My perspective of reviews is not a tool so much for reward or punishment but a vehicle to inform other potential clients whether an escort is worthy of their consideration based on services offered. professionalism, rates, and likely sustained performance. If I do that fairly then the escort will reap his own reward or punishment over the long term.

[Flower]

>So, Would you write a Negative review? Then why or why not?

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Is this a serious question? You seem to be anguishing over a situation that should not be. It's as if you are just using a "new' post to rehash your OC saga!

 

This is, after all--first and foremost--an escort review site. I mean that's why we're all here isn't it--or do we just come here to be intellectually challenged by the MC? }(

 

First, read your post and in so doing, keep up front, close at hand, in your immediate memory, the fact that you, as we all (most) do, have the screen of annonymity.

 

You say you would have posted a negative review but [font color="blue"

]"I knew that after all the MC discussion, a new review would flame things back up, and I just needed some closure.[font color="green"

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"CLOSURE?? Gimme a break!

 

This is a review we are talking about--not a death in the family or an assassination of a great leader. Who and what needed the closure? The MC gets it's "closure" when people run out of things to say or get tired of repeating themselves ad nauseam. Obviously it wasn't YOU that needed the closure, otherwise why bring it up again so soon and why refer to your "past negative experience with a OC escort" as part of your new post?

 

A few of us here thought you may have brought on the OC incident (just a tad) with your indecisiveness or with mixed messages--BUT if it was truly a forced penetration as you first reported then you should have been mad as hell and willing to stand up and be counted AND YOU SURE AND HELL WOULDN'T BE TALKING THINGS OVER WITH THE PERPETRATOR for an hour and a half after the fact!

 

If someone in essence rapes you, which is what you told us at first, you don't have a problem deciding on whether or not to write a negative review. You might have a problem as to whether you call the cops or not, but I doubt that anything that confrontational never crossed your mind--and there could be legitimate reasons that some guys would not do so--but failing to write a review? Never! ........not if it were true anyway.

 

This new post of yours is very suspicious for someone who earlier said they wanted "closure." It's as if you want to stir up turds again and I think it casts even more doubt on the credibility of your first post, and I'm sorry I joined the bandwagon helping to make sure readers knew how to find out who the OC escort was:(

 

So my take on it is that it wasn't quite the way you first told us, and then your further explanations bore that out. As you let more and more information out, I quite frankly felt less inclined to believe the story at all and put the escort back on my list of "might wanna see in LA/OC someday." An aggessive top can be very hot once in a while }(

 

But as to your more general question, and the ostensible reason you made this post--"Why not write a negative review IF it is true--it certainly is more forthright than what you did with your original post in the MC and now this one by a long shot.

 

Anyone who uses this site as a source of information re: escorts and relies on the reviews is morally :+ obligated to write reviews of his own--either good or bad, as long as they are truthful and factual and not just trashing someone you got pissed off at.

 

I write a lot of reviews, although none list Flower as the handle. I write as honestly as I can, good or bad, with this exception--I write no reviews for the very, very few escorts that I've really clicked with and consider super stars not only as escorts, but as people. The why is complicated, and unnecessary here, but these very few individuals usually have a long trail of laudatory reviews and mine would just be superfluous, But for the most part, those that take from the reviews but put nothing back are leaches:+

[Guest ncm2169]

< I write no reviews for the very, very few escorts that I've really clicked with and consider super stars not only as escorts, but as people. The why is complicated, and unnecessary here, but these very few individuals usually have a long trail of laudatory reviews and mine would just be superfluous, But for the most part, those that take from the reviews but put nothing back are leaches >

 

Nothing inconsistent there. x(

[Flower]

>Nothing inconsistent there.

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True--I'm glad you agree--thanks ncm--it's important to be consistant:7

[shy]

<<I write a lot of reviews, although none list Flower as the handle. I write as honestly as I can, good or bad, with this exception--I write no reviews for the very, very few escorts that I've really clicked with and consider super stars not only as escorts, but as people. The why is complicated, and unnecessary here, but these very few individuals usually have a long trail of laudatory reviews and mine would just be superfluous, But for the most part, those that take from the reviews but put nothing back are leaches>>

 

 

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< I write no reviews for the very, very few escorts that I've really clicked with and consider super stars not only as escorts, but as people. The why is complicated, and unnecessary here, but these very few individuals usually have a long trail of laudatory reviews and mine would just be superfluous, But for the most part, those that take from the reviews but put nothing back are leaches >

 

<< Nothing inconsistent there. >>

 

 

 

 

awful glaring how you left out the first half of the first sentence to allow you to make the case that he is inconsistent.

[KY_TOP]

I think my mentioning the one negative experience I had, over shadowed the point I was trying to make here. (Sorry no rehash, my only personal experience to relate to ).

 

I am not thinking of writing a bad review myself.

 

The point is that there seems to be a reluctance by many people to Write negative reviews. Why?

 

People ask in the Deli Section about certain escorts, people respond negatively and then say "but I didn't write a review?" Why?

 

You answered my Question in your closing paragraphs with some very good points. Unfortunately, the guys that won't write negative reviews have not answered. Maybe thay feel like they'll get trashed with any response here also.

 

I'll give the break you asked for on Closure,,, just a word several people used with me, maybe I should have just said Onward.

[HooBoy]

You and I discussed this privately at great length and I asked you at the time, "what do you want to do? Do you want to ruin this guy?" You ultimately admitted enjoying your experience yet you wanted me to publish your negative review even though the escort had apologized to you. You both were drunk and you both used bad judgement.

 

You told me that you did not want to damage this kid's career, yet you continue to bring it to the forefront, as in this post.

 

I will gladly refund the generous donation you made to the site if you will get off this kick in attempting to "SLYLY" make your point that you did not have a good experience with the escort who you "coyly" revealed who it was.

 

I think a negative review should be reserved for the people who come into your hotel room, steal your money and leave.

 

A negative review should not be for a guy who you got drunk, played unsafely by your own admission to me and then continue to try to belabor the issue and make it like it was his fault.

 

As we discussed on the phone, you BOTH were at fault. You said you did not want to hurt this guy and you admitted to me that you really enjoyed your time together except for the fact that you both used poor judgment.

 

Maybe we should allow escorts to write reviews of clients like you and reveal who you are and share with all the disrepect you displayed.

 

Now get over it. Your disingenuous is tiring.

 

Sorry man, maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the floor...

 

x(

[jackhammer91406]

KY,

This is an interesting question. I have had only two bad experiences with hiring. Of those, I only wrote one review. That was for a no show in Atlanta. (the escort is not currently listed in the no show section, but I have noted that since the software update, that section isn't very up to date. Also since Hooboy is the ultimate arbiter of these cases , I bow to his judgement) The day the review broke, there was an ongoing thread started by me that caused some poster consternation over the fact that I had written the review. There were several who rallied in the defense of the escort and the no show conduct. I think as others have pointed out on this thread, it is fair to write negatively when the escort is a no show, but as the other poster has also pointed out, these encounters involve sex which IS a chemistry thing, so sometimes the client can be as much or more at fault than the escort. Of my other bad experience, I made the judgement that I could have been as much at fault as he, so I decided not to review the encounter. I had chosen him in spite of a previous negative review because his response to that review convinced me that he took responsibility for the bad meeting.

 

I do think sometimes people are reluctant to write a negative review because it could reflect badly on them, or there could be a backlash on this board from friends and/or other clients of the escort. In those cases, it is always possible to discuss the bad experience on the board, but as Deej pointed out, it is not really a fair way to anyone.

 

BTW, sounds like you enjoyed our nation's capital. And you got to me VA Hawk which I would like to do one day.

[+ Lucky]

"I think a negative review should be reserved for the people who come into your hotel room, steal your money and leave."

 

But what if he steals money at my apartment?

 

Surely Hoo you will not stick by this statement once the morning grouch has worn off. A liberal interpretation of this statement would be that any escort who does not perform or look as promised, through no fault of the client, is stealing the client's money. Otherwise, Hoo's criterion would make this more the escort rave site than the escort review site.

[jackhammer91406]

Sorry, I meant to say:

you got to MEET VaHawk. Duh

[woodlawn]

As the posts in this thread show, there can be some negative consequences for clients who write negative reviews. Jackhammer's experience, in which friends of the escort slammed him for having the nerve to complain about being no-showed, is one of the more absurd examples. He did exactly what he should have done under the circumstances and was roundly criticized for it.

 

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make about your own experience by starting this thread. Those who counsel rape victims know it's not unheard of for them to continue to have contact with the attacker afterward, nor is it unusual for them to feel that they are partly or even wholly to blame for what happened. I recommend that you seek counseling from someone who has experience with this sort of thing. You can't resolve these issues by continuing to bandy words with the people on this message board who are so wrapped up in their fantasies about escorts that they will try to rationalize anything an escort does.

[KY_TOP]

>

>I think a negative review should be reserved for the people

>who come into your hotel room, steal your money and

>leave.

 

 

Good point.

 

>A negative review should not be for a guy who you got drunk,

>played unsafely by your own admission to me and then continue

>to try to belabor the issue and make it like it was his

>fault.

 

I didn't get anyone drunk!!!

 

>As we discussed on the phone, you BOTH were at fault. You

>said you did not want to hurt this guy and you admitted to me

>that you really enjoyed your time together except for the fact

>that you both used poor judgment.

 

 

I DID NOT nor am I asking to write a review.

 

I really missed my point my referencing the my situation, which I obviously should not have referenced, my Fuck up! It seems EVERYONE stopped after the first paragragh in my post.

 

My point IS, people in the Deli respond negatively when someone ask about an escort and say they didn't review him. 2 people respond negatively in Escort Travel section about an Escort but no Review.

 

Again Why NOT? No one has answered this question.

 

>Maybe we should allow escorts to write reviews of clients like

>you and reveal who you are and share with all the disrepect

>you displayed.

 

I think you would find from them that I DO NOT DISRESPECT THEM, very much the opposite. That comment has absolutely no basis.

 

>Now get over it. Your disingenuous is tiring.

 

Been over IT since our conversation. Re-read my post PAST the MY thing.

 

>Sorry man, maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the floor...

>

 

At least you woke up.

[KY_TOP]

>

>For me I will continue to skip your reviews as anything more

>than glorified PR for an escort based on what you have written

>in the Message Center.

>

 

Let's see, most of my comments in the Message Center are about Escorts (mostly positive or in your word "PR") or Strip Clubs. Don't see me much in the Politics Forum.

 

Now what is the name of this website again?

 

Oh Yeah HooBoy's MALE4MALESCORT reviews.

 

Wonder why in the world I would mention any Escort here...DAH!

[woodlawn]

>>I think a negative review should be reserved for the

>people

>>who come into your hotel room, steal your money and

>>leave.

 

>Good point.

 

Huh? So we're not to write negative reviews about escorts who advertise that they have features they don't have, or claim they'll do things they don't do? That would make this website pretty useless.

 

 

>My point IS, people in the Deli respond negatively when

>someone ask about an escort and say they didn't review him. 2

>people respond negatively in Escort Travel section about an

>Escort but no Review.

>

>Again Why NOT? No one has answered this question.

 

Of course it has been answered. Many are reluctant to write negative reviews because they don't wish to be insulted by the management and by other members and by the escort, the way you have been. Is that so hard to understand?

 

Look at jackhammer's experience. He wrote a review about his no-show experience. The escort posted a response in which he stated that he didn't show up because he "needed a break." Then he proceeded to complain because jackhammer had suggested he had been partying. And several other idiots actually repeated that complaint on the message board, demanding that jackhamer apologize. Have you ever heard anything quite as ridiculous as that? Can you still wonder that people are reluctant?

 

>>Now get over it. Your disingenuous is tiring.

>

>Been over IT since our conversation. Re-read my post PAST the

>MY thing.

 

If you are like most rape victims you will find that you will not be able to "get over it" until you talk to someone who understands these issues. The ignorant, bigoted "why aren't you mad as hell" sort of responses you have gotten lately are quite typical of the crap victims have to put up with, and they show that you are not going to get much help by talking to people on this message board.

[Flower]

>As the posts in this thread show, there can be some negative

>consequences for clients who write negative reviews.

>Jackhammer's experience, in which friends of the escort

>slammed him for having the nerve to complain about being

>no-showed, is one of the more absurd examples. He did exactly

>what he should have done under the circumstances and was

>roundly criticized for it.

>

>I'm not sure what point you are trying to make about your own

>experience by starting this thread. Those who counsel rape

>victims know it's not unheard of for them to continue to have

>contact with the attacker afterward, nor is it unusual for

>them to feel that they are partly or even wholly to blame for

>what happened. I recommend that you seek counseling from

>someone who has experience with this sort of thing. You can't

>resolve these issues by continuing to bandy words with the

>people on this message board who are so wrapped up in their

>fantasies about escorts that they will try to rationalize

>anything an escort does.

>

[font color="green"

] First, this is a message board for people with the common interest of hiring and reviewing escorts and the escorts themselves. It may also be other things to many, but WHAT IT IS NOT, is a counseling center or rape crisis hot line--so if in fact he was "raped," then you are correct, he should get counseling. But from all that has been said here and on the original post, mainly from his own words, I seriously doubt he was nor that he even thinks he was. He appears someone that thrives on attention. Regardless, if he was raped, it was nice to see him make such a speedy recovery so as to enjoy his "international experience."

 

Secondly, Jackhammer gave the review and THEN started his own post on it--a little silly if you're going to be so sensitive even while using only a screen name. Which gets us to writing reviews--if you don't want to do it under your SN, then use a pseudonym for your SN (LOL) -- I mean how tied into some SN are folks who can't take flack anonymously? I mean, think about it. :+

 

Most here just want to get honest reviews and in return give the same. I myself like to pontificate but, most of the reviewers don't appear to be regular posters. You say people here are caught up in "their fantasies about escorts," and I think it's pretty obvious that your expectations for the MC are your fantasy--I mean this ain't MR Rogers Neighborhood! :+

[woodlawn]

>What IT

>IS NOT, is a counseling center or rape crisis hot line--so if

>in fact he was "raped," then you are correct, he should get

>counseling.

 

No shit, Sherlock.

 

>But from all that has been said here and on the

>original post, mainly from his own words, I seriously doubt he

>was nor that he even thinks he was.

 

 

I read his account of the experience. He stated that the escort forcibly penetrated him after he specifically refused permission for that. If that's not rape, what is?

 

 

>He appears someone that

>thrives on attention.

 

That's mighty funny coming from you.

 

>Regardless, if he was raped, it was

>nice to see him make such a speedy recovery so as to enjoy his

>"international experience."

 

I assume that during your stint as a prosecutor you specialized in DUI cases. Whatever your specialty may have been it certainly wasn't sex crimes, since you obviously know nothing about the way victims of such crimes react.

 

 

>Secondly, Jackhammer gave the review and THEN started his own

>post on it--a little silly if you're going to be so sensitive

>even while using only a screen name. Which gets us to writing

>reviews--if you don't want to do it under your SN, then use a

>pseudonym for your SN (LOL) -- I mean how tied into some SN

>are folks who can't take flack anonymously?

 

Who the hell said jackhammer was sensitive about it or couldn't take it? For someone who was the recipient of a lot of completely unwarranted criticism from a gaggle of idiots, he's been quite calm about the whole thing. He isn't the one who's been complaining about what happened in his case, I am.

 

>I myself like to pontificate

 

I noticed.

 

>You say people

>here are caught up in "their fantasies about escorts,"

 

Yeah, I do say that. When I see someone trying to rationalize the behavior of an escort who forcibly barebacks an unwilling client, I find it hard to come to any other conclusion.

 

>and I

>think it's pretty obvious that your expectations for the MC

>are your fantasy--I mean this ain't MR Rogers Neighborhood!

 

My expectations are that this is a site where consumers can exchange information and opinions about a particular kind of service that is for sale. You may be right in suggesting that that is a fantasy.

[axebahia]

>Huh? So we're not to write negative reviews about escorts who

>advertise that they have features they don't have, or claim

>they'll do things they don't do? That would make this website

>pretty useless.

 

I am with you on this one!

[axebahia]

>First, this is a message board for people with the common

>interest of hiring and reviewing escorts and the escorts

>themselves. It may also be other things to many, but WHAT IT

>IS NOT, is a counseling center or rape crisis hot line--so if

>in fact he was "raped," then you are correct, he should get

>counseling.

 

Damn, I am with you on this one too!