Late, Late Escort!!

[Flower]

> WHAT WOULD YOU DO if you were I? Please be

>kind in your suggestions/ answers; I am a very sensitive

>man!

 

Sorta a no braniner--let it go.

[ad rian]

>A week ago I hired an escort, someone whom I'd really desired

>to get together for a second time since our first meeting was

>strained (I was the problem.)

 

Some how, I am not surprised having read your posts here!

 

>My friend in turn wrote a wonderful scenario which I

>reworded and forwarded it to the escort. In this email I

>stated that I really would like to see him in the future;

>(he's hot and I want to get into it now that I feel

>experienced in being with escorts.) As of this evening he has

>NOT responded.

 

And if he is smart, he won't. Now I see why you are such a fan of Bruno. This post confirms that you have zero self esteem, and that simply paying escorts for their services is not enough. You are so repulsive to them that you have to beg them or flatter them here. It all makes sense now. What a pathetic sycophant!

[Cooper]

Hey Axiom, I've been in your shoes many times. Had appointments where the escorts showed up late or not at all. Sometimes their looks were quite different from how they described themselves and their services were not to my liking...Finally I said ENOUGH. Now I meet my men at the Gaiety. There I can see first hand what they look like; in the lounge I can talk about their services; and their hotel room is a block away. I'm a lot happier and don't have to deal with crap from any escort. I come home with a smile on my face and look forward to repeating this experience the next week...Axiom, you are wasting your time with this guy. As Flower said "let it go", or just move on.

[+ Charlie]

You have already had two unsatisfactory experiences with this escort--why would you want to risk a third? At this point, it sounds as though he thinks you may want to be treated like shit; do you? (I'm not passing judgment, by the way: I know that some guys actually get off on being used and abused by a hot leather top, and that's fine, as long as this particularly type of abuse is satisfying to you.) If and when he responds, you need to have a frank discussion with him about your perspective (without the mediation of your friend John Alden) before you make any more appointments.

[+ Axiom2001]

A week ago I hired an escort, someone whom I'd really desired to get together for a second time since our first meeting was strained (I was the problem.) We had set up the appointment for 10 P.M. At 9:30 pm he rang and stated that he and his party has just been seated at their restaurant and that he would arrive at the hotel by 10:30. I told him that the time would be fine with me.

10:30 rolled around-- no escort. 11:00, 11:30 arrived--no escort.

By this time I decided to eat part of a sandwich which I had waiting for after our session, for I had wanted to bottom for him.

At 11:45 he faintly rapped on the door to my room; I opened the door to a slight smile on the face of the escort. I invited him in.

As he placed his motorcycle gear in the corner, I sat on the bed and told him that I had wanted to forego the appointment and if it were ok. He said fine in a kind way and departed.

 

When I arrived home-- I wrote a friend of mine a detailed description of the evening: earlier I had received a very "hot" -- tbear appetizer; I had already been sexually stimulated; the entree (the second escort) was super.....late, so I did not want to proceed. I was let down, for he never apologized or anything!

 

My friend in turn wrote a wonderful scenario which I reworded and forwarded it to the escort. In this email I stated that I really would like to see him in the future; (he's hot and I want to get into it now that I feel experienced in being with escorts.) As of this evening he has NOT responded. WHAT WOULD YOU DO if you were I? Please be kind in your suggestions/ answers; I am a very sensitive man!

[Guest Kenny021]

Most have said it all.....LET IT GO. He obviously is not interested in meeting you as he would have answered already. As the saying goes, THERE ARE PLENTY OF FISH IN THE OCEAN.

[Rick Munroe]

>THERE ARE PLENTY OF FISH IN THE OCEAN.

 

That's probably a better analogy for a lesbian.

[+ Axiom2001]

Adrian, I could not resist a response to you. And I am not going to bring myself to respond to your ongoing drivel. You DO NOT KNOW ME as I stated to you in an earlier thread! Thus, I refuse to dignify your "so-called" advice! Hello! and Goodye!

[+ Axiom2001]

Thanks, Charlie, Cooper, Flower, and Kenny!

 

Rick, although you are an escort and know me-- I'd appreciated some helpful, candid advice from you, too!

[Rick Munroe]

>Rick, although you are an escort and know me-- I'd

>appreciated some helpful, candid advice from you, too!

 

Well, I agreed with Charlie, Cooper, Flower, and Kenny, and I always hate to just post a "me too" if I have nothing new to add.

[ad rian]

>Adrian, I could not resist a response to you. And I am not

>going to bring myself to respond to your ongoing drivel. You

>DO NOT KNOW ME as I stated to you in an earlier thread! Thus,

>I refuse to dignify your "so-called" advice! Hello! and

>Goodye!

 

Drivel? It seems to me that what I wrote is consistent with the rest. It all makes sense. You are a pathetic obsessive compulsive person with no self-esteem. The fact that you are stalking an escort who rejected you would be beyond belief had we not been treated to your plaintive wail for Mr. Bruno!

[kjun]

Ad Rian

 

You are a self appointed phychologist as well as an asshole, prick, douchebag and scum-suching shit.

 

I would like to meet you just one time in person to punch your ugly little screwed up face in.

[+ Axiom2001]

For clarification-- I've seen this man once! Also, he just happened to be wearing his expensive leather gear; he and I are not into s/m although I have a slight penchant for it and perhaps will experiment with a hot leather top one day soon!

 

I don't think he was malicious in being late; he just was and never apologized, and I am definitely NOT making excuses for him.

 

I also think that if he had NOT wanted to see me-- he could have said in our emails that he wouldn't be available.

 

With all of this said and my initial thread, thanks all except Adrian.

(I choose not to call individuals out of their names, but that man can drive one to do this, thus I am completely ignoring his writing from now on knowing his ilk which he's shown for the past two or more weeks.)

[ad rian]

>Ad Rian

>

>You are a self appointed phychologist ...

 

Hmmh, it seems that I am not the only one here that dabbles in that line of work!

[ad rian]

>I also think that if he had NOT wanted to see me-- he could

>have said in our emails that he wouldn't be available.

 

Why bother? He probably recognized you from here as a dangerous obsessed stalker based on your 6 month infatuation with Bruno, and just decided to keep a safe distance. At any rate, all of us here have given you the same advice: "Move on, you pathetic little sycophant." Thanks for starting this thread. I now understand where your paens to Mr. Bruno came from.

[kjun]

I apologize to all for the name calling. But, I have really come to dislike Ad rian and really would like to meet him. For some reason he hides his profile. Wonder why that is?

[handyandy]

>Hey Axiom, I've been in your shoes many times. ...

>...Finally I said ENOUGH. Now I meet my men at the

>Gaiety. There I can see first hand what they look like; in the

>lounge I can talk about their services; and their hotel room

>is a block away. I'm a lot happier and don't have to deal with

>crap from any escort. I come home with a smile on my face...

 

That's great if you live in NY, Coop. But not everyone does. And I believe Axiom said before he's in CA.

[Cooper]

>That's great if you live in NY, Coop. But not everyone does.

> And I believe Axiom said before he's in CA.

>___________- Hey Handy, I hope there are strip clubs in Ca! I think Axiom understood what I was getting at...

[Guest Hole_4_Hire]

>For some reason he hides his profile. Wonder why that is?

 

Many of us hide our profiles because we prefer not to share it. There's nothing wrong with that and I personally resent your assumption that we have something to hide.

 

I have nothing to hide. I just have nothing I want to share with you! x(

 

I consider some people on this board to be a little too intense for my liking. I prefer not to give those people more information than they need to know about me. Does the term UNBALANCED mean anything to you?

[handyandy]

>A week ago I hired an escort, someone whom I'd really desired to get together....

>We had set up the appointment for 10 P.M. At 9:30 pm he rang and stated that he and his party

>has just been seated at their restaurant and that he would arrive at the hotel by 10:30. ...

>10:30 rolled around-- no escort. 11:00, 11:30 arrived--no escort. ...

>At 11:45 he faintly rapped on the door to my room....

>I did not want to proceed. I was let down, for he never apologized or anything!

>...

>In this email I stated that I really would like to see him in the future; ...

>As of this evening he has NOT responded.

>WHAT WOULD YOU DO if you were I? Please be kind in your

>suggestions/ answers; I am a very sensitive man!

 

 

 

Ax, first of all ignore the obnoxious comments from ad rian. Don't let him get you down. Bruno is gone so he's looking for another victim. Everyone here has seen from your posts that you are a sensitive and caring person.

 

Then to the subject at hand. I can understand your feelings and desire to see this escort again: it didn't go well the first time, you feel it was your fault, you are apparently attracted to him, and you want to do it again to 'get it right.' It may be difficult for you to let go. We've probably all been in analogous situations, not necessarily with escorts. But I agree with all the other comments here. Letting go is the best thing to do for your own self.

 

You are right that he could easily have said he was not available and gotten out of making a date with you. And I think you are right in assuming from that that he was not actively trying to avoid you. (And he probably wasn't actively trying to avoid getting your money. Business is business.) On the other hand, though, he has shown that he has no respect for you at all, and that he has no professionalism.

 

Consider this. Sometimes unexpected things beyond someone's control happen to delay him, and he is unavoidably late: traffic, getting lost, an emergency, oversleeping, etc. But what professional of any kind, knowing that he has an appointment with a client at 10:00, goes out to eat in a restaurant at 9:30? Or simply if there is a meeting between any 2 people. It is irresponsible, unprofessional and shows a gross lack of respect for the other person. Now, as you say, he called you at 9:30 to advise you he would be late, and said that he would arrive by 10:30. That doesn't excuse his going out to eat at 9:30, but it mitigates it somewhat. But it's also highly unlikely that he could have kept his word, and he should have known that - order, be served, eat, pay and then get from the restaurant to your hotel all in an hour? not unless it was McDonald's, but one doesn't 'get seated' at McDonald's. In any case, he didn't show up at 10:30. And another hour and 15 minutes went by after that original delay. He called you at 9:30, but he didn't call at 10:30 or during the 1:15 after that. That shows a total lack of respect for you and your time. And then he showed up without an apology and expected you to go ahead as if nothing were wrong.

 

My advice would have been to let it go right there. But, giving him the benefit of the doubt, you tried yet again and emailed him. Now it has been several days or almost a week and he has not responded. Another clear sign of lack of respect for you.

 

Interestingly, the comments in another current thread here in the Deli are very applicable to this thread as well, except that the roles are reversed - it was the client who was late and the escort had to wait around. The thread is "Some Clients are too demanding." It's about the most recent review and response of Tony Ryan in Houston. The review and response are interesting in this connection (and you should read them if you haven't), as are the comments in the thread, but especially the comment by jeffOH, who is himself an escort, and I strongly recommend that you read it, approaching it from the point of view of this situation (also the whole thread - it's not long - but especially jeffOH's comment): http://www.male4maleescorts.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=7&topic_id=28997&mesg_id=29160

 

So in answer to your original question, what would I do, here is my answer, and I strongly advise you to do the same.

1. Give up any plans to see him again, and instead find someone else, and

2. Write a review of your experience with him. You had a definite appointment, and he didn't honor it. An hour and 45 minutes late is certainly long enough to qualify as a 'no-show,' especially at that late hour. If nothing happens as a result of his behavior you will only be confirming his belief that he can act irresponsibly in this way and get away with it, and you will be allowing someone else to suffer the same kind of experience. By writing a review you will be showing him that this is not an appropriate way to act, and you will be helping someone else to avoid getting disappointed and disrespected in the same way.

[Guest alanm]

Hiring an escort is a business relationship between two people. Of course, there is an emotional element involved as well. There is no doubt that the escort behaved badly, but you are not thinking of dating or marrying him, or even becoming friends. The guy has poor people and escort skills, but I do not understand why you could not hire him again. But, only if you do it with your eyes wide open.

 

People overbid on ebay, lose money at the casinos. As long as people can afford to lose the money and not do it over and over, no big deal.

We are talking about hiring an escort, not deciding a lifelong career choice. If you can handle it emotionally (i.e., know that the escort is kind of a jerk, but you still very much want to have sex with him), why not? He's probably not a good choice for a long term client-escort relationship, however.

[ad rian]

>We are talking about hiring an escort, not deciding a

>lifelong career choice. If you can handle it emotionally

>(i.e., know that the escort is kind of a jerk, but you still

>very much want to have sex with him), why not? He's probably

>not a good choice for a long term client-escort relationship,

>however.

 

True enough and well stated, but most people can't compartmentalize like that, and I would suggest that from Axiom's posts here that he is less capable of doing so than most.

[guyinsf]

One thing that no one else has pointed out so far: You blame the lack of success during your first encounter to yourself. While this escort is certainly to blame for being late and then being even later (without calling) on the second appointment, you sent him away as soon as he got there. (I'm not saying that this was the wrong thing to do, but it is what happened.) Now, put yourself in the escort's shoes, if you can. Why schedule a third time with you? It obviously isn't "working" between the two of you. What will happen the third time? Will he be sent home unpaid even if he's on time? Will there be emotional fallout from what happened this time? (My guess is the answer to that last question is "yes.") Unless this escort is lacking in clients, it just wouldn't make sense, from a business perspective, for him to accept another appointment with you.

 

Since the guy isn't someone you actually know, your pursuit of him is just based on looks (and perhaps reviews here). As others have said, let this one go and pursue someone else. Hopefully you will find someone who is more professional and someone with whom you can be comfortable so that you don't do things to alienate the escort.