When Do You Not Write A Review?

[Candyman]

I just came back from meeting a escort. This guy has all glowing reviews,fantastic kisser, energetic bottom etc. I found him to be totally detached, never got hard our entire time together and less than being a good kisser. I didn't write a review since I know that maybe we just didn't connect and he could have had a bad day. Looking back I realized that I have done this is the past. I only write good reviews (the exception was for Greg NYC/Brett Michaels who is a con artist equal to KirK). Am I right or wrong?

[duke37]

I think you should post a review. Go ahead and acknowledge the lack of chemistry and avoid loaded blame assigning language but do go and report the facts (at least as they seemed to you).

 

I think an example of appointments that don't go very well are as valuable as good reviews. Maybe you didn't have much chemistry with the guy. Maybe he was having a bad day. And maybe he should have cancelled his appointment.

 

If nothing else I would like to see examples of things I should avoid. Of course I would still hire a guy who had a bad review if there were other good ones and the situation could be seen in the context of a whole career. I know even at 5 star restaurants somebody gets a bad meal every once in a while. How they choose to handle the bad experience seperates a good business from a mediocre one.

 

Have you contacted this escort and told him your concerns? You might do that first. You were open about possible reasons for the poor showing.Again avoid any blame assigning language just identify the problem like you did with us. An escort that deserves his great reputation will probably easily be able to create a way to make you feel better about the evening. If you get a great customer service response from the escort PLEASE let us know that as well. Someone who can take a bad experience and use it as an opportunity to create a positive experience are worth their weight in gold.

 

Jeff

[Guest TexasTaurus]

You are wrong..

 

Write a review - always! If you think it is something that just "happened that one time", unlike the other reviews, you can say so but you need to write the review.

 

Escorts, like clients, change. An escort may have become a crack head, impotent, or may have just had a bad night. Regardless, you should always write a review.

[Guest Esc_Tracker]

Several factors go into whether I will write a review.

 

If I had a good time, I will write one if the escort is willing to be reviewed (if he doesn't want even a good review, I will respect his wishes as usually privacy considerations are involved).

 

If the escort does not advertize, I don't write a review unless it is clear he wants one. Alex#2 in London is such an exception. He relies entirely on word of mouth (and this site) for business.

 

If my time with the escort was not sufficiently good for me to plan to see him again, but wasn't a complete waste of money, I won't write a review.

 

Examples include Jason in Ottawa, Alex#1 and Christian in London (not reviewed here, but who has a beautiful sinewy but muscular body, model looks and is openly gay, but not well endowed, and though reasonably affectionate remained flacid for the whole of our time together, which bothered me somewhat, and was unable to bottom for me though he tried), Kurt in London (who also has a fantastic body, is gay and is hugely endowed to the extent that my inner sphincters just refused to open up for him even after some 40 minutes of intense "proding". I was sufficiently impressed at the fact that he remained hard as steel for the whole of this rather embarassing situation to offer to return the next day for another try, but he demurred claiming he wasn't feeling well, and as I had not really felt any tenderness during the encounter, not that he was brutal or anything, I decided not to try him again or to write a review.)

 

Another is Zach Matteo from LA whom I saw twice in New York but each encounter just left me thinking that it had not reached its potential. I will probably see him again if fate puts us together in the same city once more, but I probably won't write a review until I have figured out what the "problem" is. Finally, there is Justin#1 in NYC who is exactly as his reviews describe him and who bottomed for me without too much protest (he prefers to top), but with whom I just didn't click.

 

The only escort I came close to writing a bad review on is Joey Hart who flaked out and stood me up twice on successive days. He had not entirely convincing explanations, and probably would have received a bad review if in the back of my mind there wasn't still some hope that I might actually get to meet up with him in the flesh (literally). He looks hot, but I have steered clear of his web site since (why torture myself?). Since I refuse to write more than one review for an escort, I am suspending judgement until my next attempt (successful or not) to meet up with him.

 

So there, now you know why I haven't written a bad review. The "bad" experiences just weren't "bad" enough to justify causing financial and professional pain to the escorts concerned.

[Guest WetDream]

RE: You are wrong..

 

Sorry, Texas Tauras, I don't agree with you here. I hire escorts for recreational sex. It may be their job, but it is not mine and I dont write a review of every man with whom I book a session. In fact, I don't review most of them. The ones I review are memorable for one reason or another, either good or bad. If a "date" is in the middle ground -- neither wonderful or terrible -- why write a review? What is there to say that is worthwhile for others to know?

 

By my nature, it is more pleasant to write a good review than a bad one. And I often write about my experiences with guys that haven't been reviewed before, since my review may help them get new clients. (I always asked if the want to be reviewed; some don't). If an escort has been reviewed often and my date was more or less in line with others posted on the site, I don't write a review.

 

I've been lucky in that I've never had a terrible experience with an escort. Maybe this is because I have a pretty good shit detector and don't hire a guy who sends out bad waves during a preliminary phone call. But if someone showed up who wasn't clean, had a bad attitude or was unable to perform (i.e., not get it up), I wouldn't hesitate to write a bad review. Also, I think that every no show should be reported.

[+ Cash4Trash]

My policy has been the same as Esc-Trackers but I am very interested

in what others think. Any negative mention here can cause an escort

real financial damage, but I've seen a number of highly regarded

guys and wondered what all the shouting was about - Sergio Real for

one. (35 minute hour, etc.)

There is another related issue I'd like discussed. How should

I deal with a negative review of an escort I've seen that is

malicious and unfair. It's happened twice - in both cases the

guy didn't deserve a positive review, he just wasn't evil incarnate.

In one case the man was accused of being a druggie when, in fact,

he's very anti-drug. It's probably best I mention it in The Deli

and let it go at that.

[+ deej]

<<There is another related issue I'd like discussed. How should

I deal with a negative review of an escort I've seen that is

malicious and unfair.>>

 

It varies. One negative review in a sea of positives isn't much.

 

One of my regulars, though, received an extremely harsh and vitriolic review. He wrote to Hooboy about it, citing me as a reference and he didn't even know at the time I was involved with this site in any way.

 

I vouched for him. All the appearance stats in the review were way off. Something was fishy. I even took new pics of the escort to prove his appearance and sent them to HB.

 

HooBoy investigated, and a statement questioning the veracity of that review now appears above the review. (There's a flag on the play!)

 

You can get involved at any level you like. But it always starts by contacting HooBoy directly.

[Guest Mother Theresa Escort]

RE: You are wrong..

 

>Write a review - always! If you think it is something that

>just "happened that one time", unlike the other reviews, you

>can say so but you need to write the review.

>

>Escorts, like clients, change. An escort may have become a

>crack head, impotent, or may have just had a bad night.

>Regardless, you should always write a review.

 

 

TEXASTAURUS,

 

Shame on you my son! If my yard stick weren't broken from having beaten the tar out of my second grade class, I'd bend you over my desk right now! Chemistry isn't something an escort can guarantee, no matter how hard he tries. It sounds to me like there were not any overarching negative EVENTS that would DRIVE the initial poster to write a bad review, but that the experience was less than sensational. I don't think that those are grounds to run to the review center. Especially when you consider that even ONE bad review could easily depolarize an escort's business/income. If an escort behaves with bold treachery or something commensurate in severity, then by all means, take him down with both barrels. Remember, too, that those reviews will echo with lasting repercussions.

[+ Axiom2001]

Albeit your date with this escort went awry. Chalk it up and forget about it. More than likely the chemistry was not there, so what should one expect?

 

I've been with three men (escorts) who delivered so, so; I was disappointed but chose not to take my time to write a negative review.

Why? To whose advantage...? These dates did not work for me, perhaps the escorts felt similarly. To rememdy my frustration and dilemma, I have decided that I will not be seeing two of the three again regardless of their popularity and physical and sexual attributes.

 

The third one who escorts in both NYC/LA will be given a second chance. When we met, I was intimidated by his gorgeous Brazilian body and looks, plus when he asked for the fee upfront (which is a turnoff to me), that put dampers at the beginning. Since this particular date, I have adapted to this mode of operation.

 

I am sorry that things did not go as you had anticipated and desired, but remember, the choice is yours. What will be served if you write a negative review? Who will lose or gain? His glowing reviews will outweigh your ONE negative one.

 

(There are a myriad of factors out there contributing to a date gone awry!!!) Give your future actions thought before proceeding to do something with which you are in doubt.

[marc anthony]

I write a review most of the time. Very good, always. Very bad, always. Ok, with something not quite perfect, most of the time. The reason? All of this information can help someone, including the escort.

 

Very good and very bad... the benefits to the community are obvious.

 

The so-so ones are very informational as well. They let the readers know what the escort will do, if he meets his physical description or matches his pics, that he is not a con-artist or dangerous, and they may help the escort make small adjustments in his behavior to better satisfy future customers. I know that I have hired escorts with average reviews only because I was very attracted to their pic, and saw from the review that they really looked like that and were for real.

 

The only time I don't write a review is if the escort has lots of previous reviews, and my moderate review won't add any useful information to the mix.

[ted]

Again, I review the very good and the rip offs- the middle of the roads generally don't get reviewed. The exception is, if they are fairly new to the business, are unreviewed, and they performed as advertised, but for some reason we just didn't really click. The rationale being that they will probably get better as time goes on, and there are probably quite a few out there they will click with.

[KY_TOP]

I think it depends on what the guy promised for the date. If he didn't fulfil what he promised and what he knew was expected of him then I'd probably write the review. (I would think that getting a hardon is a minimum expectation.) Also, how do you know that others haven't had the same issue with him...they just didn't write a review either. If nothing was promised from him, except what you got from other reviews, it might be hard to fault him for not RISING to those expectations. But, I'd like to know if the guy has a history of not getting hard before I hire him.

[Guest cp8036]

If you do write an unfavorable review, you should cite specific examples of what was wrong, not able to get hard, dirty hole, took calls, drunk, high, and so on. To say he was detached and was very passionate is a bit vague. Stay away from subjective measures. Maybe you felt he was detached based on your expectations, then next ten clients might say he was hot.

 

Good advice mentioned above was to write the escort, and mention something. If he cares at all about his business and reputation, he should respond. Perhaps you will learn that your idea of good hygiene differs from his, or he may admit he didn't deliver a good service. Perhaps he will offer some adjustment in future dates.

 

However, I don't think clients should be expected to accept excuses from escorts like "I think was an issue of chemisty" or "I have bad days too, we are human".

 

I had a bad date with a relatively high priced escort. If if this were a non-commercial date I would have been pissed about the time I wasted. I wrote him a nice note and asked for his "review" of the date. He replied, saying he was sorry I was not happy with the date, but feels that perhaps the chemisty was not right.

 

That is a bullshit excuse. If the client is without some major physical oddity, clean, respectful, the escort should be able to make a decent time. Some will be better than others, but unable to perform half of the normal sex guys do isn't fair. Part of being a professional (or at least charging professional rates) is to adapt to each client, and make, or at least appear, to make a passionate date. If the cleint is dirty, drunk, rude, or some physical thing, all bets are off.

 

An escort that claims he is human, and he had a really bad day, thus he wasn't able to give a good time is bullshit too. If something serious happened in his life, he should reschedule your date -- call in sick. To proceed with a date, and give a fraction of what is promised is ripping the client off. In the mainstream independant contractors don't get paid if they are so sick they cannot perform what they were hired for. They call in sick.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

RE: When Do You Not Pay Upfront?

 

Here's some inside info: a certain gorgeous NY/LA Brazilian escort is very happy with half the cash upfront.

 

He's well worth it.

 

Best,

Jizz

[Guest IM_Moore]

RE: You are wrong..

 

>Sorry, Texas Tauras, I don't agree with you here. I hire

>escorts for recreational sex. It may be their job, but it

>is not mine and I dont write a review of every man with whom

>I book a session. In fact, I don't review most of them.

Nice of you to contribute so much. You are a asshole, who feels he is too elite to share his experiences with others.

 

To the author of the thread write the fucking review, if you haveto ask it reflects a problem dealing with your mental state.

[Guest albinorat]

I've never written a bad review. One reason is that like Wetdream I've never had a horrible experience. I lay everything out in advance.

 

Since I look like Jabba the Hut, I always mention that (what if they fainted at the door, hit their heads on the ground and sued?). Since I am into certain role playing I also mention that. My particular scene does not require kissing, cuddling or affection and I stay away from anal sex (my preferences, no judgments implied) so it may be easier for escorts to accomodate me if they can deal with the fantasy component of my scene. I also ALWAYS say I will not pay in advance (I will show an escort I have the cash).

 

I negotiate a five minute 'getting to know you' period. I tell the escort I would like to talk for five minutes face to face. We can see each other, get each other's vibes in the flesh and answer any questions. If either of us decides it's no go I will pay $50 for his time and also reimburse any realistic transportation costs. So perhaps the truth is I am likely to be turned down outright, rather than disappointed in the event.

 

However not having written a bad review does not mean I haven't felt disappointed now and again. I am a believer in the "chemistry" argument and think it works both ways. I have posted often that his is not merely and rigidly a business arrangement like getting your cothes dry cleaned. This is an intimate and interpersonal exchange. There are rules and givens of course, but all the same there will always be people one just likes being with (and they like being with one), and those where it just doesn't click on either end.

 

There is a theory of phenomes -- extremely subtle smells evoke spontaneous unconscious responses from us to one another. But whatever the reason sometimes it just doesn't happen in a really enjoyable way. Sometimes I am not really in the mood when the appointment roles around, maybe the escort isn't either. Maybe I've talked too much (I am a chatty Cathy), maybe the escort has or hasn't talked enough for me to feel at ease. However so long as he is reasonably on time, clean, makes a game effort to do what we agree, is friendly then I give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't see the value of posting a review suggesting I hadn't really liked the escort but you might.

 

So I would only "pan" an escort who tried to steal, who had totally misrepresented himself, who was extremely hostile, who seemed dangerous.

 

Al

[Guest atr322]

Hi candyman,..

 

glad you asked....i have b een pondering that question for some months now having had a lousy experience with a guy who --to me--was and is a complete sham...was letting it go, by-gones be bygones--until i came on your message and all the answers.

 

Had what i thought would be an interesting experience with a kid who advertised himself as Matt 7 on M4M, and as Youngmaster on Rentboys..his webpage- Prettyboyspoiled--further reinforces how he styles himself in his own mind.

 

Had nice phone conversations with him, set up a date...but when he arrived--just about as total a disaster as can be imagined. The pic he sent me as a "new" boy i later learned has been floating around the net for a couple of years. The pic he shows on Rentboy is not him.

 

He arrived, very thin, no body, but seemed to be in his early 20's.

Tried to get me off in about 10 minutes. The dick was about the size of a small limp piece of ribbon--almost non-existent--but the real problem was that it stayed limp.

 

I didn't write a formal review but the message center has let me get it off my chest. The problem with a lot of these guys is that just because they might have had some compliments on their fuckability now and then, they have no idea of what it takes to be an A-1 escort...or even a B-.

 

if you're going to be in the business, then learn how to put out what you advertise or else stay home and practice with your fuck-buddies before you put yourself on the market...

 

As a very in-shape guy who's worked both sides of the street, i know what i'm talking about.

 

I've had experiences with guys--both pros and non-pros--who don't get it up for one reason or another (fatigue, etc) Marc Calles for one-- but they give their all in other areas.

 

This little shit needs a good kick in the ass...and i'm sorry i didn't toss him out on his ear.

[Guest creosote]

The time to write a bad review is when an escort does not keep the bargain he made with you. That can be by misrepresenting himself, showing up late, refusing to do something he agreed to do, or just behaving in a way that makes it impossible for you to enjoy yourself, which is the whole point of hiring him. It sounds to me as though the escort you hired is guilty of the last thing I mentioned. Chemistry is not an excuse I would accept for that. I don't expect an escort to pretend he's in love with me or even likes me, but if he doesn't at least indicate he is mentally as well as physically involved in what we are doing I would rather not have him there, and I am pretty sure most escorts understand this. If an escort can do a good job only for people he actually enjoys being with, what is he getting paid $200 an hour for?

 

A bad review could have a negative effect on an escort's earnings, but so what? If your complaint is an honest one, you should not be blamed for that. The point of this site is to give potential clients the benefit of your experience with escorts so they don't have to rely on what escorts say about themselves, which is the only other source of information. Unless people are willing to do this, the site doesn't work.

[Candyman]

Thanks guys for your advice. I did speak to this escort and found out that he had hurt his back. When we met he was just coming back from physical therapy (explains why he was late). I wish that if he didn't feel good he would have just cancelled instead of giving me a half hearted experience for my money. I will still give him the benefit of the doubt and not write a review. It is time to move on to new and better things and hopefully I will be posting a glowing review of the next tasty morsel I find.:9