Simon Suraci Posted Saturday at 01:26 AM Posted Saturday at 01:26 AM 2 hours ago, Braziliancutee said: Because when I check some future client checking my profile a lot times I text him. Ok, I think I understand. You are being proactive by reaching out to clients you see viewing your profile. You are using the profile view alerts as a defacto checklist of people to reach out to. Every one of the people you spend time reaching out to is, in your mind a bit of wasted energy if the client doesn’t respond. You conclude from this one way interaction that the client must not be serious. I encourage you to reevaluate your approach. Let me explain. I read mixed opinions on Company of Men about providers reaching out “cold” to prospective clients viewing their profiles. Some find the messages annoying, invasive, or unwelcome. Others find it a refreshing way to break the ice. Some are not paying attention to their message inboxes at all. A few people need a little encouragement to warm up to contacting you for real. Maybe they are shy, unsure, or less confident. In these cases it helps. But you never know who is on the other side of the screen, their temperament, or why they are there. Others are simply window shopping. If every store clerk ran out of their store onto the street saying the customer glancing into their display should buy something, I see how that would be offputting. Not everyone is ready to buy. They are often comparing products and services before they choose to engage. Maybe they don’t have the funds right now, but shopping gives them a thrill, helps them indulge a fantasy without wasting a store clerk’s time. Maybe after the next paycheck, promotion, or period of savings they will gather the money and decide to splurge on you. Not responding to your message doesn’t mean they are necessarily unserious. It could mean a lot of things like they are not paying attention. Or they hold the view that they are not obligated to respond to every marketing message they receive. A reasonable view, in my opinion. Or they want to hold off engaging until they actually are serious and ready to book an appointment. Lots of people looking at you are not ready to book right then and there. I get clients who have kept an eye on me for years and only much later reach out saying something to this effect. Had I blocked them, I would certainly miss out on their business. And guess what? These clients are even more engaged and excited to see me when they actually do book. They are really good clients. I, like you, engage in some proactive client outreach, but I am a bit more strategic about it. Instead of messaging every client that clicks on my profile, I make selections regarding who I want to spend time reaching out to. For me, I’ve found that it helps to engage with clients on something personal to them. For example, a client listing a specific kink or fantasy or type of guy or scene he is into, I will point this out saying how I would be a good match for xyz. Or that I would enjoy seeing them for some abc reason that genuinely resonates with me. These are the types of messages clients like to respond to. They feel seen, heard, and that you really care. And hopefully you do really care. Most clients don’t fill out their profile information. So I skim over the vast majority of alerts because I can’t really personalize my message to these people. It would land as well as a cold fish to their face. And yet some of them are so polite and considerate that they respond anyway, because they feel obligated, even though they are not ready to book, or only have a slight interest. Then we both feel obliged to keep messaging out of politeness when it’s really a waste of time for both client and provider. Some clients skip this hassle altogether by choosing to not respond. I can’t blame them. I might send more of these proactive messages when I am traveling and see interest from those places I am going. Maybe not every person that views my profile, but more particularly those I notice are repeatedly viewing my profile. It’s a hint that they are considering more seriously whether they want to hire me. Not always, but usually. I might mention I will be in their city during certain dates, thank them for checking me out, and mention I am happy to answer any questions. Many of them never respond, and it doesn’t bother me. Some do respond, however, and it helps break the ice. A few of those people do eventually book. My reason for outreach in this case is to call attention to the limited window for them to book me while I am in their city. That is a good reason to reach out, however impersonal it may be. My point is to be more selective about who you reach out to and why. It will cost you less time and energy narrowing down your list and not feeling the need to compose a message to every profile viewer. Spending less of your energy leads to less resentment, and you have more energy to respond to the “hot” messages you receive, from potentially more serious, ready-to-book-soon clients. The longer you work this business, the easier it is to skim past the alerts and filter them mentally. Some of us turn off the alerts because we don’t want to spend the time or energy sifting through them. I do, but it is work, and not everyone wants to spend the energy. It’s not a binary. People are complicated. They don’t all fall into strict ‘serious’ and ‘unserious’ client categories. And it doesn’t really benefit you to put them into those categories and then block whoever you assume is unserious based on something as benign as a non-response. Does any of this make sense? I hope it helps you. I want my fellow providers to succeed. These are just my opinions and you don’t need to take it as gospel, but it is intended to help guys like you reading this. Clients here have shared a lot of wisdom. I hope you take it to heart, for your own sake, to improve your business. MikeBiDude, + SidewaysDM, mike carey and 2 others 2 1 2
Braziliancutee Posted Saturday at 02:36 AM Posted Saturday at 02:36 AM 1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said: Ok, I think I understand. You are being proactive by reaching out to clients you see viewing your profile. You are using the profile view alerts as a defacto checklist of people to reach out to. Every one of the people you spend time reaching out to is, in your mind a bit of wasted energy if the client doesn’t respond. You conclude from this one way interaction that the client must not be serious. I encourage you to reevaluate your approach. Let me explain. I read mixed opinions on Company of Men about providers reaching out “cold” to prospective clients viewing their profiles. Some find the messages annoying, invasive, or unwelcome. Others find it a refreshing way to break the ice. Some are not paying attention to their message inboxes at all. A few people need a little encouragement to warm up to contacting you for real. Maybe they are shy, unsure, or less confident. In these cases it helps. But you never know who is on the other side of the screen, their temperament, or why they are there. Others are simply window shopping. If every store clerk ran out of their store onto the street saying the customer glancing into their display should buy something, I see how that would be offputting. Not everyone is ready to buy. They are often comparing products and services before they choose to engage. Maybe they don’t have the funds right now, but shopping gives them a thrill, helps them indulge a fantasy without wasting a store clerk’s time. Maybe after the next paycheck, promotion, or period of savings they will gather the money and decide to splurge on you. Not responding to your message doesn’t mean they are necessarily unserious. It could mean a lot of things like they are not paying attention. Or they hold the view that they are not obligated to respond to every marketing message they receive. A reasonable view, in my opinion. Or they want to hold off engaging until they actually are serious and ready to book an appointment. Lots of people looking at you are not ready to book right then and there. I get clients who have kept an eye on me for years and only much later reach out saying something to this effect. Had I blocked them, I would certainly miss out on their business. And guess what? These clients are even more engaged and excited to see me when they actually do book. They are really good clients. I, like you, engage in some proactive client outreach, but I am a bit more strategic about it. Instead of messaging every client that clicks on my profile, I make selections regarding who I want to spend time reaching out to. For me, I’ve found that it helps to engage with clients on something personal to them. For example, a client listing a specific kink or fantasy or type of guy or scene he is into, I will point this out saying how I would be a good match for xyz. Or that I would enjoy seeing them for some abc reason that genuinely resonates with me. These are the types of messages clients like to respond to. They feel seen, heard, and that you really care. And hopefully you do really care. Most clients don’t fill out their profile information. So I skim over the vast majority of alerts because I can’t really personalize my message to these people. It would land as well as a cold fish to their face. And yet some of them are so polite and considerate that they respond anyway, because they feel obligated, even though they are not ready to book, or only have a slight interest. Then we both feel obliged to keep messaging out of politeness when it’s really a waste of time for both client and provider. Some clients skip this hassle altogether by choosing to not respond. I can’t blame them. I might send more of these proactive messages when I am traveling and see interest from those places I am going. Maybe not every person that views my profile, but more particularly those I notice are repeatedly viewing my profile. It’s a hint that they are considering more seriously whether they want to hire me. Not always, but usually. I might mention I will be in their city during certain dates, thank them for checking me out, and mention I am happy to answer any questions. Many of them never respond, and it doesn’t bother me. Some do respond, however, and it helps break the ice. A few of those people do eventually book. My reason for outreach in this case is to call attention to the limited window for them to book me while I am in their city. That is a good reason to reach out, however impersonal it may be. My point is to be more selective about who you reach out to and why. It will cost you less time and energy narrowing down your list and not feeling the need to compose a message to every profile viewer. Spending less of your energy leads to less resentment, and you have more energy to respond to the “hot” messages you receive, from potentially more serious, ready-to-book-soon clients. The longer you work this business, the easier it is to skim past the alerts and filter them mentally. Some of us turn off the alerts because we don’t want to spend the time or energy sifting through them. I do, but it is work, and not everyone wants to spend the energy. It’s not a binary. People are complicated. They don’t all fall into strict ‘serious’ and ‘unserious’ client categories. And it doesn’t really benefit you to put them into those categories and then block whoever you assume is unserious based on something as benign as a non-response. Does any of this make sense? I hope it helps you. I want my fellow providers to succeed. These are just my opinions and you don’t need to take it as gospel, but it is intended to help guys like you reading this. Clients here have shared a lot of wisdom. I hope you take it to heart, for your own sake, to improve your business. Thanks for the advice!! ☺️
Elite_XL Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Posted Monday at 06:15 PM On 1/9/2026 at 5:14 PM, Simon Suraci said: 💯 I’m struggling to understand why providers like @Braziliancutee @Elite_XLand@SecretProvider block prospective clients viewing their profiles. What about prospective clients viewing your ad is a detriment to you? Is there any benefit to you from blocking? If they never book you, that’s a neutral result. If they don’t respond to an unsolicited outreach message, that’s also a neutral result. Why would you need to actively go out of your way to block the client profile? What benefit is it to you to do this? What positive result will such an action gain you? You know they can still view your profile when they sign out of that account, right? And when they tick the box saying don’t track my profile views. For every one of them, you may have a dozen actively ticking that box to hide their similar number and frequency of views. Would you block those tick the box people if you could do so? We don’t always know the connection between the client screen name and the phone number they are texting you from. They may say hi I’m xxx, username: xxxsampleusername on RentMen, but most of the time they don’t. If that lookie-loo client books you two years later when travels overlap, that’s a win! What’s wrong with viewing evidence that you successfully occupied space rent free for an extended time in potential clients’ minds? That’s actually a sign of good marketing. I understand if the prospective client were repeatedly texting you but unserious about booking, canceling last minute, no-showing, sexting, being creepy, stalking, or other problematic behavior… THEN you block them… assuming you are correctly connecting the dots between the caller/texter and profile username …but just the client viewing your profile bothers you? Come on. Show us on the doll where the client touched you. Oh wait, you can’t because you didn’t give him the chance to do so in the first place. We post ads in hopes that prospective clients will view it and consider hiring us. Who is to say what the motivations are of that one client that viewed you a hundred times but never contacts you or responds to your outreach message? We don’t know. Some of them will eventually book. Some of them will only ever have a quiet fantasy wank. Worst case scenario is a neutral result, with the possibility of a positive one at some point. They aren’t demanding or wasting your time. They are merely existing, and happpen to be looking at your ad. That’s neutral to me. By blocking clients for no apparent reason, you risk damaging your reputation. That client sees you blocked them and wonders why. He may think less of himself, or less of you, or both. He definitely won’t hire you since you’ve made it loud and clear that he is unwelcome. But he may share the negative experience with others at some point. This is a net negative result to you, your reputation, your income. You’re shooting yourself in the foot. Don’t put me in the chopping block for it. My block list is likely on the single digit number. It was mostly for people that had no clear intentions of meeting up. Either way, I was giving them a different perspective on what we see on the site and why they might act the way they did. Most of the time, I was being proactive to people that request my private album or that have checked my profile several times and are in the area. You can either sit there or make a move to try and break the ice. I choose the later. I can’t read your mind if you find that to be invasive, and Im sorry if it made you feel that way. As for the others that might do it more often than not. They could be annoyed by the message notifications from rent masseur site for each time someone views their profile. (I don’t think you can disable that). Some might not like it when you request their private album that leads to nothing. I could sit here for a while and try to un puzzle each ones way of thinking and behaving. While not coming to any relative conclusion. At some point, I even got blocked by an actual client after meeting up to then have them reach out to me again for another meeting from a different number. People have their own shenanigans going on in their heads. This one? Perhaps didn’t want to have anything connected to me afterwards. Who tf knows. Whether OP or whoever got blocked, thats too bad. Move on and try to find someone else that fits you. Try to understand their perspective, see if you could have been offensive in any way and learn from it. Conclusion, I would rather have someone reach out with clear expectation and communication. If you can’t meet now but want to in the future. Its fine, just say it. You are far and want to know when Im going to travel to your city? Ask. Want to know what Im into? Ask. mike carey 1
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