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Last week, I was in The Pines waiting in the harbor for the boat to arrive with the hordes (not whores, although there may have been some of those) and I saw an escort waiting there. It's irrelevant who he was (for the sake of the narrative, I'll call him Tiger), but suffice it to say, he's an amazing specimen of a man. He was accompanied by a, shall we say, "mature" gentleman (for the sake of the narrative, I'll call him Charles) whose youth, vigor, and beauty are but a distant memory.

 

Well, Charles was all over Tiger like white on rice. It was painfully obvious that Charles wanted everyone to know that Tiger was with him and Tiger was handling all the attention with a mixture of stoic aplomb and amusement.

 

I know Tiger casually and I know for a fact that if he weren't being paid, he would have bitch slapped Charles into next week for touching like that him in public.

 

So, the point of this post (yes, there is a point buried in here) is actually a couple of things.....

 

1. For you escorts: it's one thing to be pawed in private by someone who, in other circumstances, you'd be viscerally repulsed by, but it's another thing to be pawed in public where people, who are even remotely perceptive, know exactly what's going on. Charles wasn't grabbing Tiger's cock or being overtly sexual, but he WAS being very "familiar" with Tiger and in a way that I actually found uncomfortable to watch. I guess my question for you escorts is: How do you do it? How do you bear the public attention that can accompany these weekend jaunts? Don't you find it even a little bit embarassing or uncomfortable to be out and have it be obvious that you're a whore?

 

2. For you johns: do any of you behave like this? And if so, don't you think it's a little tacky? And furthermore, don't you feel a little icky about people seeing you with someone who is obviously being paid to be with you? (NOTE: I'm not talking about going to dinner or a show. I'm talking about the public pawing and fawning.)

 

Non-polemically yours,

 

FFF

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UGH. I checked the spelling for everything EXCEPT the subject.

 

No little ones, fear not, there is only 1 Fin Fang Foom.

 

Singularly yours,

 

FFF

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I'm with you, FFF. Being about 20 years older than the twinky boys that I hire, I am very respectful of their dignity in public, as well as my own, for Pete's Sake! I have them to my heart's content in my bedroom, give them a break while touring the town! But I guess I really like the escorts that I hire, so I really try to make sure that they are comfortable and having fun as well.

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What about this equation disturbed you? Do all public displays of affection bother you, or only paid ones? Is it that the man in question is not attractive in the traditional sense?

 

I admit I would not do it, but more because it strikes me as crass. The dividing line for me as I think about it is between a public display of affection and a public display of sex/power. The former is fine, the latter is crass. The difference between expressing a true emotion and displaying one's ability acquire arm ornamentation. I think I feel similarly about most other gratuitous displays of wealth or power.

 

On the other hand, his money, his life. I suspect I would have thought it tacky or funny or sad, but then a number of folks I've known over the years have done tacky things that made them happy, so who cares? (Well, other than the fact that their tacky behavior highlights the natural superiority of my own, of course.)

 

Perfectly yours,

 

Charon

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I like to pick my escort's nose in public, but only with the index finger of my right hand. If I used the left hand, the left being associated with evil, it would obviously give observers the wrong impression that my hot stud was a devil worshipper. I also go wild (sporting the biggest chubster)popping the zits on their arms and backs to form decorative patterns (usually influenced by Amish quilts). Other than that, I pretty much ignore them and try not let people know we're together.

 

Later.

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Lucky, I have decided. I am with FFF. I am a very conservative accountant that acts like a whore[if only I could be one] in private. Out with an escort I would not think of embarassing him or myself with overt acts of affection. Mind you, part of that is my mind set. I find outright expressions of affection by straight people offensive. Hence, I would not impose the reverse upon them. Live and let live. Cheers!

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I'm a pretty affectionate guy -- some would say lots more than that -- but I'm not much for huge displays of public affection -- and that's with my friends, my boyfriends, my lovers, my clients, whatever. It's just not me. A casual touch, a held hand, even a tiny kiss is one thing... but the pawing you describe would bother me, no matter what the dynamic of the relationship.

 

When this has happened, I typically politely turn the tables. Usually guys who are very comfortable groping you on a dock don't like it when you do the same to them. I'm also pretty good, I think, at politely moving hands or acting embarassed.

 

None of this, though, answers your questions about how an escort feels when people can tell what the situation is. I have to admit, when I first started, it was kind of a thrill. No matter who you are, in any situation, people are judging you -- this is just an extension of that. And typically in this situation, though they may be judging you harshly, more often than not, a boy for rent in this situation is viewed on a pedastal. For example, I'm hit much more when I'm out professionally than when I'm out with friends. I'm not sure what this says about me, gay society, or the type of guys I'm attracted to, but it is interesting.

 

This is a great topic.

 

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Well, cheers! One unestablished fact here is whether the escort that Foom is concerned about was at all embarassed. Some people like to be fawned over, others don't. Rather than have Foom hazard a guess, let's hear from Tiger himself!

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I would certainly never treat an escort like that. I must say that sometimes when I'm out to dinner with one of my regulars, he sometimes will make contact, brush my thigh with his hand, or even touch my face, which while certainly enjoyable, and appreciated, but also on a certain level is uncomfortable, but that's probably just uptight, closeted for too long, me.

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Dick Fin Fang FUMES

 

>If I used the left hand, the left being associated with

>evil, it would obviously give observers the wrong >impression

 

Traveller, I expected more of you. Gay people should be more considerate than to perpetuate such prejudice. How gauche! How maladroit!

 

Lefty Dick

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Like I said before, be considerate of the escort, yourself, and the general public... regardless if you are paying the bill. If it seems out of place or makes the escort uncomfortable, show some restraint and wait until the bedroom. If no one cares, go for it. But if the posts on this board are any indication, it is HIGHLY likely that someone will care! That's how I feel, so when I am out in public, my 20- years- my -junior twink cutie acts like my son... and in private, he acts like my BOY! hehe

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>Is he the escort in question here?

 

Do you seriously think Fin Fang Foom would let someone intimately maul him in public?

 

Based on his postings here, can you see FFF letting anyone do anything to him that he didn’t want done?

 

You must be new here.

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>Why is this Fin Fang Fool

>always conveniently & inconspicuously nearby

>to observe the comings and

>goings of escorts?

 

1. I live in NYC. Which, along with LA and SF, is Whore Central.

2. I go to places that these cash strapped lads often buzz about.

3. I know alot of people.

4. I have eyes.

 

Emuneratingly yours,

 

FFF

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> If it seems out

>of place or makes the

>escort uncomfortable, show some restraint

>and wait until the bedroom.

 

Marc, I expect more from you! ;-) Why wait until the bedroom? Why not the garage? The kitchen? Living room? Dinning room? The shower? Or the stairs? hehehe :7

 

Lustfully yours (in the FF's tradition of signing off),

JT }>

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>>Why is this Fin Fang Fool

>>always conveniently & inconspicuously nearby

>>to observe the comings and

>>goings of escorts?

>

>1. I live in NYC. Which,

>along with LA and SF,

>is Whore Central.

>2. I go to places that

>these cash strapped lads often

>buzz about.

>3. I know alot of people.

>

>4. I have eyes.

>

>Emuneratingly yours,

>

>FFF

 

FANG...I believe you meant to say, eNumeratingly. Also, I can't

help think about your thoughts on FIN FANG FOOM RUMINATES...

funny the things you DO find offensive. After all, this is Fire

Island you're talking about, seems to me it would be common to

observe much more than that to which you referred.

 

As an escort, I don't like it. I'll casually touch a client or

put my hand around their shoulder, but I don't necessarily like

to be pawed in a public setting. I'm sure the client was getting

off on the whole thing. Who knows and who cares? If the escort

didn't like it, I'm sure he wouldn't have put up with it or maybe

he figured it was part of the deal.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

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I have seen the same things on Fire Island when I had a house there. I have seen it in San Francisco too. I think treating anyone with respect regardless of who they are is the right thing to do. I used to see an escort out of Miami who was an International Male model and he didn't even want to be seen with clients. So going out in public with him was not a fun experience. So it can go both ways.

 

Jeff

(formerly SFJEFF, now living in London)

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>1. I live in NYC. Which,

>along with LA and SF,

>is Whore Central.

>2. I go to places that

>these cash strapped lads often

>buzz about.

>3. I know alot of people.

>4. I have eyes.

 

Wow, sounds like you lead a very charmed & exciting "life."

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FFF

 

As in most cases, here again I agree with you and with your observations.

 

Some months back I was with a few escorts in NYC (one was "with" me, the others were vacationing and are friends and so stayed in the same hotel). Out shopping one day with the two with whom I was just playing NYC tour guide, I was a bit taken aback by their open affection for each other in public - in Amsterdam, this seems perfectly fine, but NYC is not THAT cosmopolitan.

 

When I am out with an escort for an evening, dinner, theatre, movies or just walking around, my policy is "hands off". I find it just as sexy (or just as much a turn on) to have a good conversation with a nice looking guy, even without the physical contact. Perhaps too it's because my escorts are generally half my age (finding one closer to my age is NOT that easy, and I have looked!!!).

 

I guess it is my own background: I don't like public displays of affection, whether heterosexual or homosexual... and I am not even Puritan in ethnic background!!! I also dislike public displays of any kind. Recently an escort with me at a concert in NYC had an ugly exchange (replete with 4-letter words) with an ass sitting behind us. I was completely embarrassed by the situation, as the man behind might have been an imbecile and cretin but I expect better behaviour from an escort with me. It became (and will remain) my last date with that particular guy, although in bed he was/is wonderful.

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>FANG...I believe you meant to say,

>eNumeratingly.

 

I guess, now that I've hit 29, I'm becoming dyslexic. I can't begin to enumerate the times I've done that sort of thing.

 

 

>Also, I can't

>help think about your thoughts on

>FIN FANG FOOM RUMINATES...

>funny the things you DO find

>offensive.

 

Now now now. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I found it "offensive". I said it made me uncomfortable to watch. Big difference.

 

Lest my point get lost in the dross, let me recap.

 

There are certain escorts, and Tiger is one of them, who, in their personal sexual lives, have very high standards, and Charlie would never get within a foot of Tiger is he weren't showing him the money. It's one thing to do something in private and it's another thing to parade it out where everyone can see. So, aren't escorts in the least bit embarrassed when they are out in public with one of these men (who they personally find sexually repugnant) and these men are doing something that sends out the clarion signal that they are paying for the company of the guy they are with?

 

Repeatedly yours,

 

FFF

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Then there's the reverse. Years ago, when I was young and naive and closeted, I noticed two men standing nearby on the deck of a vaporetto in Venice. I noticed them because they were handsome and well-dressed, tanned and wearing summer whites. And they looked happy, both of them. One was probably in his thirties, the other was in his sixties. As the vaporetto pulled up to the dock and we all began to crowd together for disembarking, the younger man moved up close behind the older man and began to press his pelvis up against the older man's behind. He also put his hands on the older man's upper-arms and steered him playfully as we all shuffled forward. The older man beamed as though he were a human lighthouse.

 

As I said, I was young and naive and closeted. Among other things, that meant that I didn't know about escorts and therefore assumed that the two men were lovers. Even so, it seemed a little out of place to me -- but socially I'm very conservative -- although nobody else on the vaporetto seemed to notice. In general public displays of overtly erotic affection strike me as demonstations of power. "Look what I've got!" It's just as offensive to me in a heterosexual couple as in a homosexual one, although somehow more understandable in the latter case because it is so ineluctably political.

 

Let me hasten to qualify the last paragraph, however, by observing that the little Venetian incident occurred about twenty-five years ago. The "client" is dead by now, and I suppose the "escort" is hiring company for himself. As for me, I still remember what the younger man looked like and can easily imagine myself in the older man's shoes, grinning like an idiot and no one the wiser!

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