Callas Posted January 1 Posted January 1 There’ve been 4-5 times i walked into a masseur’s apt when the previous client just walked out and i saw the guy’s face. 1. Hygiene these were all erotic massage which included lots of extras in different kinds. i assume the masseurs didn’t have time to clean themselves between clients. If they offered the same extras to the previous clients as they did to me, would it be a bit gross for me (tasting the other clients’ dry saliva in case of oral; or worse if involving penetration/anal)? 2. Privacy what if i bump into someone i know? for each case, how should i approach the situation? marylander1940 and soloyo215 1 1
+ Axiom2001 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 If the masseur did not have time to regroup and change linens and get himself together, I perhaps would be unable to proceed with the appointment. Perhaps I'd request that he get ready for me and that I'd return within a half hour. ...really professional masseurs would not schedule a really close back to back in order to avoid what you listed in numbers 1 and 2. I've been seeming escorts and masseurs for over 20 years and have never encountered what you cited. Two years ago I did meet an escort whose fabulously-spaced and possibly nicely appointed apartment was in such disarray that it took away my desire to play; thus I canceled right then and there and left and wrote about it at this site. Someone at this site informed him that I was inquiring about him, etc. He blocked me again; he's NO LONGER on my radar under any circumstances. marylander1940, Callas and TorontoDrew 2 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 1/1/2025 at 12:44 PM, Callas said: 2. Privacy what if i bump into someone i know? Then you will know as much about him as he knows about you. It's no different than bumping into an acquaintance at a nude beach, at a bathhouse, or at an orgy. You each showed up for the same purpose, so you aren't going to judge each other. Callas, marylander1940, BrooklynIrish and 1 other 1 2 1
marylander1940 Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 1/1/2025 at 3:44 PM, Callas said: There’ve been 4-5 times i walked into a masseur’s apt when the previous client just walked out and i saw the guy’s face. you ran into a guy who you assumed was a client in the corridor? Sorry, it's not clear. On 1/1/2025 at 3:44 PM, Callas said: these were all erotic massage which included lots of extras in different kinds. i assume the masseurs didn’t have time to clean themselves between clients. If they offered the same extras to the previous clients as they did to me, would it be a bit gross for me (tasting the other clients’ dry saliva in case of oral; or worse if involving penetration/anal)? Masserus/escorts usually do mouthwash to avoid diseases. I guess in THESE cases they didn't even have time to do it if you saw the last client leaving. I'm amazed about the fact that so many guys think they'll get to have sex with the masseur afterwards for a low rate then escorting.
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted January 2 Posted January 2 19 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Masserus/escorts usually do mouthwash to avoid diseases. There an entire thread devoted to this. Many men don't use mouthwash at the advice of their dentists or doctors, with studies suggesting higher rates of STIs among those who use mouthwash after sex: marylander1940 1
soloyo215 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 On 1/1/2025 at 3:44 PM, Callas said: for each case, how should i approach the situation? Let him know (if you are willing to move the appointment) that you are willing to wait for him to be ready for you. How exactly, I'm not sure, but you should have a comfortable, private and discreet experience. Callas 1
Callas Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 (edited) On 1/2/2025 at 4:07 PM, marylander1940 said: you ran into a guy who you assumed was a client in the corridor? Sorry, it's not clear. Masserus/escorts usually do mouthwash to avoid diseases. I guess in THESE cases they didn't even have time to do it if you saw the last client leaving. I'm amazed about the fact that so many guys think they'll get to have sex with the masseur afterwards for a low rate then escorting. I rang the door bell => door opened => if the client was not ready to leave, i waited for 2-3 mins in his bed room; if the client was ready, i saw him as the masseur opened the door. (I arrived just on time though) yes, in my case, some nyc masseurs do ofter the 🍆🍑 special for $250 or less (just their normal rate). I always see them for 1.5-3hrs. I normally just asked them directly if they could 🍆 🍑 after our 3rd appt. & i gave 20-35% bonus (because they did what i asked). I never told them in adv that i would give bonus. I just find negotiating up-charge a turn off. I find playing this game with masseurs is much more exciting than paying an escort who i know for sure can 🍆🍑. Edited January 4 by Callas
+ ApexNomad Posted January 4 Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, Callas said: I find playing this game with masseurs is much more exciting than paying an escort who i know for sure can 🍆🍑. How so? marylander1940 1
Callas Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 On 1/2/2025 at 7:33 PM, soloyo215 said: Let him know (if you are willing to move the appointment) that you are willing to wait for him to be ready for you. How exactly, I'm not sure, but you should have a comfortable, private and discreet experience. Yeah i texted him 2-3 days ago that i could reschedule if there is risk im seeing other clients. and his response was very polite. Let’s see if he can change. soloyo215 1
Callas Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 20 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: How so? Haha it’s like having unexpected xxx when going to see your banker/doctor/professor/etc. 🫣 guess i watched too many scenario porn + ApexNomad 1
Callas Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 And the build-up to that 60 mins — 90 mins — 2hrs… paying attention — see his mood — testing things… maybe they are just open to it in 1st meeting, but i enjoy all these strategy things going on in my head. Otherwise, even 60 min xxx could be boring.
marylander1940 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 34 minutes ago, Callas said: I rang the door bell => door opened => if the client was not ready to leave, i waited for 2-3 mins in his bed room; if the client was ready, i saw him as the masseur opened the door. (I arrived just on time though) that's very unprofessional! 35 minutes ago, Callas said: I find playing this game with masseurs is much more exciting than paying an escort who i know for sure can 🍆🍑. You're paying for an escort service, no matter who provides it. 28 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: How so? Good point but some simply do it because It's cheaper than an escort rate. + ApexNomad 1
+ ApexNomad Posted January 4 Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, Callas said: And the build-up to that 60 mins — 90 mins — 2hrs… paying attention — see his mood — testing things… maybe they are just open to it in 1st meeting, but i enjoy all these strategy things going on in my head. Otherwise, even 60 min xxx could be boring. As long as you’re enjoying yourself, that’s all that matters. Personally, I prefer a bit more certainty. I do think, with the right provider, you can still experience the thrill and strategic play you’re looking for (seeing his mood, testing things, etc.). Callas and marylander1940 2
Callas Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: that's very unprofessional! You're paying for an escort service, no matter who provides it. Good point but some simply do it because It's cheaper than an escort rate. Ofc that why i often asked for 🍆🍑 in 3rd session or later, after i tipped them well following other asks in previous sessions. haha i just enjoy it this way in my head 🫣
Callas Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: As long as you’re enjoying yourself, that’s all that matters. Personally, I prefer a bit more certainty. I do think, with the right provider, you can still experience the thrill and strategic play you’re looking for (seeing his mood, testing things, etc.). Yeah i did some kinky play research this week & will test the water playing with some providers. I hope they would thrill me 🫣
+ ApexNomad Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Callas said: Yeah i did some kinky play research this week & will test the water playing with some providers. I hope they would thrill me 🫣 Just make sure in advance the providers are into water play. marylander1940, Callas and thomas 1 2
Simon Suraci Posted January 4 Posted January 4 My suggestion: hire more professional masseurs. Professionals schedule clients with time gaps in between the stop time of their last client and the start time of their next one. I prefer at least 30 mins. That gap time is very important. In that time, we clean our massage equipment, change linens, and depending on the session content, we clean our bodies too. Maybe change the thermostat to fit client preferences with time for the temp to adjust. Spray essential oils, restock our massage oil, do little chores, etc. We use the time to respond to inquiries we were unavailable to respond to during the last session, take a break to sit down, use the bathroom, and eat/drink. Responding to clients takes the most time out of all these activities. If I’m not careful to prioritize all of the above before responding, I can easily spend the whole gap time texting clients who messaged me during the last appointment and find myself unprepared for the next appointment. Without that gap: 1. There is no privacy. Clients are almost guaranteed to see one another coming and going. This is disrespectful to both clients. 2. The masseur can’t respond to inquiries in a reasonable amount of time. Say he has two 90 min massages scheduled. That means someone has to wait up to three hours for the masseur to respond. 3. OR your masseur is distracted during your session responding to client requests because he has no time programmed in between clients to do so. Many of you describe the “one hand massage” as he spends your session time texting other people. Professionals never do this. Say client 1 overstays by at least five minutes for any reason, like chatting, taking a long time to cum, requesting extra work on an area, having issues with their payment method, etc. Say client 2 shows up at least five minutes early. 30 min gaps means that we have twenty minutes (at most) to do all of the gap time activities. That’s not much time. At some point even the professionals planning gap time will find themselves in a situation where the first client won’t stop the small talk and the second client insists on showing up 15 or more minutes early and you end up with them crossing paths coming and going. I do my best to avoid these situations without coming across as rude, but sometimes it happens anyway. I make the very early client wait so I can do my gap time activities. It’s not my fault they are early, and if they have a problem seeing the last client leaving, that’s on them for arriving too early. The first client I do my best to get them out with plenty of time to avoid them having to cross paths with the next client. It’s tough when they aren’t picking up on polite signals that it’s time to get going. Clients should aim to be right on time, or at most five minutes early. Arriving late is putting yourself at risk of having a shorter session. We have to respect the next client’s start time and our gap time. The pros factor it all in so your session goes smoothly, both in the way of hygiene and client privacy. If your masseurs aren’t factoring in gap time, find a more professional masseur! I won’t dive into the side topic of sex with masseurs and the game playing tactics of trying to get discount sex work services. We have way too many dedicated topics in these already. Short version: value sex work for what it is and pay equitable rates for it. Full stop. It’s better that way for clients, providers, the sex work industry. + ApexNomad, Callas and Whippoorwill 1 2
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