Escort Rates ?

[OceanTraveller]

I wanted to ask what some of the other posters thought about this.

I recently spoke with an escort and had trouble pinning him down about his rates for overnight. His rates ranged from 1000.00 to 3000.00 per night. he said it was whatever the clients budget allowed. What do you think ? I would rather have the escort tell me in advance . Also some where in this conversation was a mention of a bonus--- again how much ? I did not get a good feeling . I keep hearing on this board to discuss everything in advance and something like this makes it difficult. I am almost a little leary of it. What are some of your thoughts on this?

Wouldn't you rather know the complete rate in advance ? If the rates range than maybe the services do to accordingly.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: Escort Rates ? -- The FLEECING OF A CLIENT

 

OceanTraveller,

 

Forget this guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and chalk it up to one of those special experiences in life we have from time to time. :-)

 

>I recently spoke with an escort

>and had trouble pinning him

>down about his rates for

>overnight. His rates ranged from

>1000.00 to 3000.00 per night.

>he said it was whatever

>the clients budget allowed.

 

LOL... this does have some humor value -- for me anyway. What can he possibly do for you to warrant $3000 or $2000 or even $1500 (whoops, there goes my Scotch showing).

 

 

> I would rather have the escort

>tell me in advance .

 

Only sane way to do business...

 

>Also some where in this

>conversation was a mention of

>a bonus--- again how much?

 

I give this guy credit for humongous balls or... maybe he doesn't really want to do an overnight????

 

> I did not get

>a good feeling .

 

Wise reaction here, Ocean...

 

>I keep hearing on this

>board to discuss everything in

>advance

 

You bet !!

 

>and something like this

>makes it difficult.

 

Not difficult at all... this one is easy.

 

>I am almost a little leary of

>it.

 

Only ALMOST!!! Ocean, run as fast as you can the other way while your wallet is intact. Leave this rip-off artist alone. Find someone honest to deal with and have a good time. THere are many great escorts out there from which to chose.

 

For $1500 you should expect nothing short of a 'night in heaven'... for me, not sure I'm ready to meet my maker... I'll settle for the antepenultimate step on the road to that destination. :-)

 

>If the rates range than maybe

>the services do to accordingly.

>

What do you get for one kilobuck? Your hand held and a peck on the cheek!! Not my idea of value.

 

RUNNNNNNN!!!

 

Do you still want to know what I really think? :-)

[ted]

RE: Escort Rates ? -- The FLEECING OF A CLIENT

 

Tampa said it all-RUN away from this guy no matter how great he looks.

[Justice]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-04-01 AT 09:20PM (EST)[p]>I recently spoke with an escort

>and had trouble pinning him

>down about his rates for

>overnight. His rates ranged from

>1000.00 to 3000.00 per night.

>he said it was whatever

>the clients budget allowed. What

>do you think ?

 

Sounds suspicious to me.

 

> I would rather have the escort

>tell me in advance.

 

Be very careful. Ask the escort what the rate for his time is. Make your question VERY clear -- i.e., What's your rate for an overnight session? How many hours is that for?" Don't ask him if the rate is for ANYTHING but his time. You could be walking into a trap.

 

>Also some where in this

>conversation was a mention of

>a bonus--- again how much

 

Who brought the subject of the bonus? The decision to tip should be up to you and should be made at the end of the session.

 

>? I did not get

>a good feeling.

 

I don't have a good feeling from this. Beware! I can't tell from your comments if he's a cop or a rip off artist. You'll get burned either way.

 

>I keep hearing on this

>board to discuss everything in

>advance and something like this

>makes it difficult. I am

>almost a little leary of

>it.

 

If it makes you feel uncomfortable than stay away. Find someone else.

 

>What are some of

>your thoughts on this?

>Wouldn't you rather know the complete

>rate in advance? If

>the rates range than maybe

>the services do to accordingly.

 

Rates do vary. I.E., Rod Hagen gives discounts to college students. Most escorts charge more for out calls and I'm sure that established clients are sometimes charged preferential rates. (There's nothing wrong with that!) Some escorts have different rates for kinkier types of scenes. (I've actually seen a couple of web sites where an escort will mention that he has "vanilla rates" and "dominant rates". Every time that I see that, I say to myself so much for the time only argument.) There's nothing wrong with charging a higher rate for a specific kind of scenes. There just has to be a better way of going about it! If the rate keeps changing then I would think long and hard about hiring the escort. Yes, you need to know what you're going to be charged. Most escorts will let you know their rates without raising the kind of issues that your describing. I see all sorts of red flags being raised. Danger, Danger Will Robinson! Stay away.

[CT Dick]

Beware, too, of what someone once described as a "taxi escort."

 

That's the one with a base rate but the fare goes up the further you go.

 

These add-ons often are for what you or I might expect for a normal session (i.e. having him give head, anything anal, etc.)

 

Get the rate for an "all purpose" session and understand the limits before.

 

I think your intuition was right with this guy. Listen to it.

[OceanTraveller]

Thanks for your responses. It is things like this that get a person down. We had really good emails and I called and was left feeling bad about it. He says he is the number one in the world, but it is very disappointing. I will look around some more I guess. It is really a let down. :-(

[Guest shadow]

Is the escort a guy new to escorting and/or overnighters, or a really young escort or something? I need to know that before I can give my opinion.

Some of the "rookie" escorts have starting problems.

 

1000 to 3000 depending on your budget? Does this guy charge based on your salary or do you get "more play for more pay" if you know what I mean? I do know some really good escort who charge based on that rule. For example, anal is 200/hr while non-anal is $150/hr. I also know an escort who charges $200/hour, but his overnight rates range from $1000 to $1500. This is a pretty good escort.

 

Either way, I think that it would had been best for you to have had this information in advance.

[Guest albinorat]

All the responses are superb. But I have nothing in my life so I'll add something worthless (self esteem alert, self esteem alert!!!)

 

Can I step a little sideways? I'm a little puzzled by someone's wanting to see someone on an over night basis for the first time. I can understand it if a few prior meetings have gone very well, and the escort seems especially cuddly. But surely under most conditions it makes sense to commit only to seeing someone for an hour first (if you're sexually voracious, or have a scene that might take some time you might ask if a second hour would be possible to be decided during the first hour, and ask what rate that might be).

 

I've met escorts who were terrific but believe me an hour was plenty. A few I wouldn't trust on an over night, though they delivered hot sex. Most often in my case, I like the option of two hours but usually find that's both my and the escort's limit for one stretch.

 

If there's going to be a tip, clearly that's up to the client and is based on the escort's performance (again I've met many who were "just doing a job". They did it well. They earned their fee, period. Sometimes though I have met an escort who was really fun, didn't clock watch, maybe was more flexible than I had a right to expect and him of course, I tipped).

 

I must say many prices I see charged for overnight seem high to me -- but since it's something I'm not really drawn to maybe I should leave it there. But I will add to the others: an escort who won't be clear about the fee in advance, seems to have an unusually high fee (for what?) and who in addition mentions some kind of tip (for what?) sounds like a rip off or a greedy nut and in either case is probably best lived without.

 

Al

[Bilbo]

RE: Escort Rates ? -- The FLEECING OF A CLIENT

 

Tampa, I am half Scots myself and recently (See the thread "A Fairly Accurate Accounting") tabulated the fees which were cited in the new reviews over a one week period. Over the seven days, there were seven overnight fees mentioned. The range was 400 - 1600. The median was 750. The average was 760. So, it looks like your ideas about the reasonableness of the fee here were right on. I agree with (I forgot who said it) that this escort is either brand new to the overnight side of the business or just plain doesn't want to admit that he doesn't want to do it. And, if not, just when was he going to decide how much the client could afford, after checking out his car and his home/hotel room??

[+ Charlie]

I would second everything in this last reply,especially the advice that even a very good scene is hard to sustain for more than an hour at a time. I would also point out that an "overnight" means that you are probably paying for at least a few hours when both of you will be sound asleep, so depending on when the date starts and ends, you may end up paying $1000-3000 for a couple of hours of sex/companionship before nodding off and a quickie before breakfast, assuming you are both in the mood then; be very specific in your discussions about the exact arrival and departure times and what you expect to happen in the morning. To be quite honest, I would never go to sleep with an untried escort on the first date, since you don't know whether he will still be there (along with your valuables)when you wake up.

[Guest shadow]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-05-01 AT 01:34PM (EST)[p]Premiere in Philly charges just $600 for overnighters as a flat rate with their escorts. You can do an in-call (hourly or overnighter) at their place for no additional costs. They have great accomodations, believe it or not, with bathrooms to wash up in and comfortable private rooms that have great furniture, sex toys, a wide screen TV, a VCR, and porn videos. With Premiere, you'd probably have enough left over from that $1000 to afford a round trip plane ticket and rental car for Philly.

 

For $3000, you could afford 2, 3, or even 4 of their models at the same time for an overnighter that you would never forget!!! You'd still have enough money left for a roundtrip plane ticket and rental car!!!

 

They do have a wide range of models.

 

I did an overnighter with one of their models once. I had never met the model in person before, but I read his reviews and was assured by the management that he was a good choice for me. We did have hours of fun, by the way.

 

Just putting things into perspective. That is, letting you know how far you can stretch your money.

[Matt_Vancouver]

Chances are the guy is either new to escorting, or he is like someone else mentioned, a taxi escort.

I know a few guys that don't have fixed rates and will 'milk' once they actually meet the client.

In my opinion, this is pretty unsavory, and I would think it would put a damper on any kind of fun that could have been had.

Now rates have been discussed to death here, but I still stand by what I've said in the past, you can get a great guy for 400, and you can get a total shithead for 2000, and vise versa.

Look at the reviews, make an informed decision, and look at your budget. Like Bilbo said, 750 is the average, now there must be someone in that range that can satisfy your needs.

good luck

matt(priced just below average: ) (and I'M the co-best in the world damnit!: )

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[NASAguy]

I have to admit that as a customer sometimes I hate to see escort rates top $1000 for overnights or $500 for barely 2 hours. But then I have to remind myself what expenses a PROFESSIONAL escort should be incurring (especially if it is his fulltime job):

 

1. I sure hope he has an IRA and other longterm retirement savings program because he will not get a corporate retirement check or Social Security check (unless he also works elsewhere) like most of us

2. Self-employed health insurance can cost a fortunate and in a business like escorting is really very important ($300 per month with over $1000 deductable wouldn't surprise me)

3. Remember your escort doesn't earn paid holiday, vacation or sick days (no work, no pay)

4. Business expenses, especially travel--locally and out-of-town), can be very expensive (one escort I know regularly puts around 150 miles per day on his car for local appointments). He also has to keep up appearances (dress nice, be well groomed, etc)

5. Your escort must report some earnings and pay taxes to Uncle Sam (it's not a free ride)

 

I know there are a lot more of expenses like this that we customers too often never think about. I'd really enjoying hearing an escort's perspective on some of these items.

[Matt_Vancouver]

thank you Nasa: )

matt

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Justice]

>I know there are a lot

>more of expenses like this

>that we customers too often

>never think about.

 

Here's a couple more expenses that escorts have to pay and that most people take for granted.

 

1) Their cell phone bills have to be enormous.

 

2) Their laundry bills have to be enormous. They have to change their clothes, towels and sheets more than most people.

 

3) The self employed health insurance that you mentioned is probably a bare bones policy that doesn't include dental, optical, or prescription drug coverage. (Prescriptions can be very expensive. I had one filled today, the insurance company paid over $87.00 for an 8 oz. tube of cream. I just had to worry about my $5.00 co-pay.)

 

4) They may have to buy clothing that's specific to the scene.

 

5) They may set aside a block of time for a client who doesn't show or who cancels at the last minute. Since they can't schedule a new client on short notice so the fee that they might have earned becomes a cost of doing business.

 

6) They have the same expenses as everyone else -- i.e., rent or mortgage, car payments, insurance, health club memberships, food, gas, and utilitites. They can't really budget, because they never know how many clients they're going to see during the course of a month.

 

I agree, it would be interesting to get the escorts point of view on this subject.

[+ Charlie]

On the other hand, if someone paid me $200 for one hour of work (HA!), I would see only about $120 of it, since at least 40% would immediately be confiscated as taxes: city, state and federal wage, Medicare, Social Security, etc. I'm sure there is the occasional escort who sends a check to the IRS and other govt. entities, but I don't think this is the rule (besides, how would he explain the origin of the income, of which there is no official record?). If he is wise, he invests the extra $80 for his future, buys insurance, etc., exactly as conservatives would have us all do. Unfortunately, I suspect that most escorts are not Calvinists and do not use their large fees as effciently as they should. An enterprising experienced escort, possibly nearing retirement from the profession, might consider trying to organize a private pension fund, health insurance cooperative, etc., though I doubt the Bush administration would be very sympathetic even though it fits Republican economic theory so nicely.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

NASA guy and Justice,

 

It's good that you shine a light on the other side of the coin regarding expenses, we need to keep both sides in perspective. However from my vantage point, the major concern in this thread is the unwillingness of the escort to commit to a fee -- period. Once you know the fee then you can make an informed decision about what you are getting into and if it is worth it. My view has always been that an escort is free to charge whatever he wants and I'm free to accept or pass. What he is not free to do is to obfuscate his fee until he shows and sizes you up and maybe lathers you up. Business is negotiated up front -- not in the middle.

[Guest EvilSwine]

Um..I'm not Scottish, just a cheap bastard and I don't understand this. What does this guy do for $3,000 that he doesn't do for $1,000? Then again, I don't understand why someone wants to pay $60,000 for a Lexus SC430 when they can get a big, American luxo-cruiser for $40,000, either.(well..actually, I like the Lexus, but it's hard for me to get my mind around it, being the cheap bastard that I am)...

[adriano46]

Guys,

 

On the overnight rates... in Europe often the rate can actually go down the longer the time spent together.

 

That aside, in the US, if one considers a client invites an escort to a major city, pays the hotel bills, pays for all meals and entertainment (theatre tickets are killers), and then pays the "average" of $750/night... well it adds up even if the hotel is a 2-star (minimum $125/night). It comes out to nearly $1000/day.

 

If a client has developed something more of a relationship with the escort, the escort himself sometimes calls the shots on the rate (lowering it - as happens occasionally - or even giving a different rate such as $750 for 1 night; $1,400 for 2, etc... so that the longer he stays with you the more reasonable the rate becomes... eg. $3500- 4000 for a week rather than... $5250). Some actually do this but only if they know the client well and have been together and had a positive experience.

[RM]

There's no problem reporting income to IRS - the IRS doesn't share information with police. The IRS often GETS information from police. People are occasionally convicted for income tax evasion rather than for drug dealing or whatever. So write on Schedule C that you provide "recreational services."

[Guest EvilSwine]

Yeah...it's like being a porn webmaster(or having a site with AVS-covered nude pics, which some escorts do). You just need to cover it with some innocuous term. The IRS doesn't care unless you don't pay them. The Feds never got Al Capone until they could make a case for TAX EVASION. And the IRS can't just hand out tax information. Neither can your state income tax people. And it would seem kind of an odd place to start for local police to subpoena tax records. There are much easier ways to catch you, like a sting operation as is being discussed in another thread. As long as you report all your income, the tax people don't care how you make it. Just remember to keep your receipts if you're deducting stuff like lube as a business expense..heh....

[Guest JasenRhodes]

This is the way I've always priced things. In any product or service one typically expects a lower rate for buying in bulk, so of course the more time you pay for with an escort the lower the hourly/daily rate should be. That just makes sense to me.

 

But obviously whatever the price is, it should be nailed down in advance CERtainly!

 

 

Happy hunting

 

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