Point 202: someone submitted a very bad Google review.

[+ José Soplanucas]

3 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

no doubt your opinion is bc I questioned your porn god 

 

Who knows, perhaps I will start worshipping you after your next forum reincarnation. 

[SouthOfTheBorder]

1 minute ago, José Soplanucas said:

Who knows, perhaps I will start worshipping you after your next forum reincarnation

my dick is bigger than Rhyheim’s

[+ José Soplanucas]

2 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

my dick is bigger than Rhyheim’s

Believe it or not, what I like the most about Rhyheim is his brains. You cannot brag about that.

[SirBillybob]

10 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

let’s state the obvious - queens can be vicious & delusional and I wouldn’t put it past some …

 

You are more an interloper here regarding fact and truth checking, and bitter at apparently having been called out. In systems parlance, this is often conceptualized as court jester role acquisition. A convenient distraction for a number of players central to the story that love a smoke-screen. And people in general, queens or otherwise, are generally reluctant, often driven by cowardice, to reverse course and admit the errors of their ways. 

However, this reminds me of the account of a message board poster, a clinician-researcher and med school faculty member, that met another board member posing explicitly as a high profile physician, a text penpal sitch a few months prior to meeting, platonic. When it was obvious in the face-to-face that the faux doctor had been fabricating his image and status all along, while the one being bamboozled didn’t much care other than preferring reality grounding, things went south as the impersonator clung futilely to his narrative at a deranged-grade level, including when they joined up with a few other fellows with whom the faux physician incomprehensibly persisted in identifying himself with a far-fetched range of medical specialties, culminating in much awkwardness between them. Including faux doctor having a public wailing breakdown, pre-empting the type of rational adult reckoning that would otherwise have been in order. 

Word to the wise: Don’t yank others down your rabbit-hole without a successful fully informed visa application. Some of us don’t suffer fools, imposters, posers any more than they do pederasts. 

This, it subsequently came to light, cascaded to faux MD apparently maligning the formerly hoodwinked but wizened board member, casting him as socially inept and fickle in relation, in contrast, to their previous seemingly positive connection. And brazenly manipulatively trash-talking with other board members within regional report commonality, presumably also represented among recent posts.

A few other outrageous details have been referenced elsewhere.

Would that example land in the category of delusional and vicious? And sadly, pathetically funny to boot, as I wind my single braid with cord, and get ready to be wound up for the next boring round? 

Cue the next bozo clown’s cloud of narrative distortion, as the thread careens all over the place. Discerning fact from fiction is, after all, the topic’s theme, inn’t Vicky? 

And … match.

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SirBillybob]

7 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

Check his posting history. He displays the same duplicity he is denouncing here, and I suspect this is at least the fourth reincarnation of someone who used to say he was teaching in NYC.

Of course, I may be wrong. I am often wrong.

This reindeer games post arguably puts you in the realm of somebody serving a caricature of himself. 

Take a break and enjoy your annual family/roots pilgrimage. It can be a challenge to unplug. The bored will still be here. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SirBillybob]

More scrapping within the Dream Team I overlooked earlier? Figures. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SouthOfTheBorder]

6 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

And … match.

you posted same video in a different forum , w different name (I think, altho confusing at this point)

a coincidence, of course

you are absolutely not that person - who could possibly think that ?

[solacesoul]

Back to the original post’s topic:

As has been suggested by other forum members here, this Google Review might have some hint of truth to it, or it could simply be another case of intent vs. impact (I.e., the offenders aren’t meaning to come across as racist, but the impacted party receives it as such). OR, it could just be a maladjusted cliente feeling slighted, ignored or ripped off, using online reviews as his source of revenge.

Using hyperbolic terms such as “Blacks should avoid this establishment if they care anything about their life” doesn’t really help his case, though. First of all, there aren’t too many actual Black people who use the term “blacks”. That’s very reminiscent of Trump’s infamous comment, “The blacks”. And combining that with “Queer”, another uncommonly used term (though it has gained usage in some younger black LGBTQ+ circles) might suggest that the reviewer might not even be Black himself. Maybe he posted it for a traveling friend? And secondly, hyperbolically making it seem like a bad sauna experience with staff was life-threatening seems a bit absurd — especially when there are far more actual life-threatening racist situations in the USA right now, involving guns, supermarkets, malls, schools and police. 

Also, as mentioned before, some traveling gringos (in Brazil, anyone not Brazilian, no matter the race, color or nationality, may be referred to as a “gringo”) act like real entitled assholes. USAmericans and Russians probably have the worst reps for this, although assholery can span the globe. But I especially hate to witness it from Americans when abroad, and even more especially for me, black and brown Americans, because believe it it not, it leaves a lasting global imprint.

As just one example, last year, I was checking out at Point 202, and there was a small group (3) of Black American travelers in front of me and a few others. None of them spoke any Portuguese, but that didn’t stop one of them from raising his voice and arguing with the front desk attendants about their bill. Now, we all here have had “issues” at one sauna or another with an incorrect bill at checkout, so disagreement or pushback about the bill is not really the problem here. What made this one so problematic was the underlying fact pattern  — the group seemed to have had a table near the stage and they hosted several garotos at the table who ordered food and drinks from a waiter while at the table with the clients, and at the end, the clients thought they shouldn’t have to pay for the garotos’ food and drink, since they ordered it! Yes, this is what these clowns were so outraged about — that they were responsible for the ordered food and drinks at their table consumed by the working boys that they had seated at their table with them! They tried every Americanism in the book — being loud, argumentative, aggressive, threatening to call the police for robbery (??), making sure they let everyone in earshot know how much supposed money they supposedly make and how supposedly influential they are with the US Embassy, demanding to speak to the manager / owner, blah blah blah. They read the American Obnoxiousness Handbook and studied it well! In the end, Junior came out and after arguing with him too, they ended up paying all of the bill, and they left in a huff, calling everyone in the place “crooks part of a scam”. This held up the entire checkout line for about 10-15 minutes, and everyone in line behind them — about 5 deep — including me, waited patiently.

When they finally left, Junior just shook his head and said, “Gringos”.

This is just one story of many in the book of “Clients Behaving Badly”. I’m not proclaiming that all garotos and sauna workers are perfect little angels either, but some of us in more privileged situations really do need to take accountability of our own behavior.

 

Edited June 24, 2023 by solacesoul

[SirBillybob]

Apart from the DC car detailing, terms such as “treated different”, and “real entitled” for that matter, seem to reflect Americanisms. Not to criticize the shortcut use of substitutions within speech patterns, eh, just to offer that one would likely not witness this so much elsewhere, certainly not the UK. 

At one of a post-pandemic thumbless handful of 202 checkouts, I briefly stalled the process to scrutinize the onscreen itemization. This typically takes a few seconds. One other customer, African American within the younger percentile of typical clientele age and quite good-looking, was the sole customer in queue behind me. He said “I’ve got you”, to which I quickly replied it was unnecessary, but thanks. I don’t think he could actually view my total. He quickly paid, as another attendant with another device had stepped up, and bolted down the stairs.

It was an uninspiring and blue-balls night there so maybe he wanted to hightail it to 117 before closing. 🤣I don’t recall if it was a Monday; I think not. 

For anybody offering what he did, irrespective of background and situational context, I would typically think one part impatience, one part sensitivity in picking up on a potential [sic] awkward dynamic at point of pay, one part gracious generosity. But I would not calculate it as zero sum and the net take and response, giving him the benefit of the doubt and his props, is “Bless his heart”, as opposed to “Stereotype me? How very daaaare you?!” 😌

——

Contrary to Gueirra’s POV about management not feigning to speak to “Blacks” feigning protest, it appears that Barbosa is quite open to having a particular kind of word with them. 😏

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[solacesoul]

22 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

Apart from the DC car detailing, terms such as “treated different”, and “real entitled” for that matter, seem to reflect Americanisms. Not to criticize the shortcut use of substitutions within speech patterns, eh, just to offer that one would likely not witness this so much elsewhere, certainly not the UK. 

At one of a post-pandemic thumbless handful of 202 checkouts, I briefly stalled the process to scrutinize the onscreen itemization. This typically takes a few seconds. One other customer, African American within the younger percentile of typical clientele age and quite good-looking, was the sole customer in queue behind me. He said “I’ve got you”, to which I quickly replied it was unnecessary, but thanks. I don’t think he could actually view my total. He quickly paid, as another attendant with another device had stepped up, and bolted down the stairs.

For anybody offering that, irrespective of background and situational context, I would typically think one part impatience, one part sensitivity in picking up on a potential awkward dynamic at point of pay, one part gracious generosity. But I would not calculate it as zero sum and the net take and response, giving him the benefit of the doubt and his props, is “Bless his heart”, as opposed to “Stereotype me? How very daaaare you?!” 😌

——

Contrary to Gueirra’s POV it appears that Barbosa is quite open to having a particular kind of word with Blacks. 😏

What this particular customer did for you doesn’t require much scrutiny at all. It was called kindness, or in modern generational American circles, it’s referred to as “paying it forward”. He may have been considering that time is greater than money in his case, but instead of shouting you or “the help” down, or being a “Karen”, he chose to pay your way. 

I don’t understand what stereotype you think would come into play in this instance. Are you suggesting that older male Canucks receive harsh racial discrimination of some sort? 

[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, solacesoul said:

I don’t understand what stereotype you think would come into play in this instance. Are you suggesting that older male Canucks receive harsh racial discrimination of some sort? 

No. You do comprehend and you grasp the nuances but pretend not to in the interests of contrarianism, close kissing cousin of … well, you get the drift … just as I understand you at the required analytical threshold to handle, following a mere single-digit quantity of exchanges. Why would I bother to debate with the thing that would be a legend of divine omniscience in his own mind. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[+ José Soplanucas]

13 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

This reindeer games post arguably puts you in the realm of somebody serving a caricature of himself. 

Take a break and enjoy your annual family/roots pilgrimage. It can be a challenge to unplug. The bored will still be here. 

Thank you for the advice! I will ask my 86-year-old mom to respond to your pots. She can express herself better than you can.

[SirBillybob]

43 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

Thank you for the advice! I will ask my 86-year-old mom to respond to your pots. She can express herself better than you can.

Well she would be tailoring, not panning, no?

That her expressivity skills would outpace those of a particular blog would not be such a stretch. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SouthOfTheBorder]

Just now, José Soplanucas said:

She can express herself better than you can.

and probably do it much faster - sans drama 

[SirBillybob]

6 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

and probably do it much faster - sans drama 

From the mouth of a drama meme. You two are back to picking out the fur nits? 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SouthOfTheBorder]

4 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

From the mouth of a drama meme.

you have a short memory 

please stay on topic 

[SouthOfTheBorder]

14 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

However, this reminds me of the account of a message board poster, a clinician-researcher and med school faculty member, that met another board member posing explicitly as a high profile physician

this sounds very familiar - and it went sideways last time as I recall. 

[SirBillybob]

7 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

you have a short memory 

please stay on topic 

I’m the topic you are clearly pathologically obsessed with, so the suggestion that I could be accused of veering off topic is an asinine non-starter. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SirBillybob]

22 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

this sounds very familiar - and it went sideways last time as I recall. 

How can you comment on three-dimensional directionality in a delusional multiverse of your own fabrication? 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[SirBillybob]

Wheeee! Another member with crippled fingers angling for the imperative of an eventual Ophthalmology consult. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[solacesoul]

38 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

No. You do comprehend and you grasp the nuances but pretend not to in the interests of contrarianism, kissing cousin of … well, you get the drift … just as I understand you at the required analytical threshold to handle, following a mere single-digit quantity of exchanges. Why would I bother to debate with the thing that would be a legend of divine omniscience in his own mind. 

Oh, Bobert. We all know that your own various threads through the forum-verse get very little traffic and responses, but please… try to keep your projection down to a minimum.

I am really beginning to think your twisted end game is just to get posters that you don’t like or who call you out banned, and if you have to go down with the ship, then you’re fine and dandy with it.

I am not interested in playing out publicly here (in a thread not even on that topic) what was already perfectly stated at another forum where you also post. I am not going to play that silly game with you, So, if you have something to say that is unrelated to the original post here, then take it in private DM or start another of your own threads. 

[SouthOfTheBorder]

1 minute ago, solacesoul said:

start another of your own threads. 

just don’t call it  Copy Of My Note To Our Moderator(s)

although epic in sheer lunacy & a case-study in online chicanery - I don’t think anyone is up for repeat

[SirBillybob]

2 hours ago, solacesoul said:

Oh, Bobert. We all know that your own various threads through the forum-verse get very little traffic and responses, but please… try to keep your projection down to a minimum.

I am really beginning to think your twisted end game is just to get posters that you don’t like or who call you out banned, and if you have to go down with the ship, then you’re fine and dandy with it.

I am not interested in playing out publicly here (in a thread not even on that topic) what was already perfectly stated at another forum where you also post. I am not going to play that silly game with you, So, if you have something to say that is unrelated to the original post here, then take it in private DM or start another of your own threads. 

Writes the game-playing guy that derails his own topic merely hours ago in cahoots with a self-defined big-dick court jester, projects, and doth protest too much.

And since when is a SabBRATical from a middling board, for some, inadvertently collateral damage and not a favour to the majority, for others not a fair trade-off for core truth revelation.

Do you really think somebody was centring out another for shits and giggles, not for stimulating the trickling in of puzzle pieces, even today, for an RCMP report on missing national and provincial government documentation ostensibly lifted during a toilet break during lunch with a co-member imposter while at his lodgings, a sociopathic misanthrope recently allegedly defaulting on payday loans, the consequence of said pilfering requiring cash payment of Metro return home fare on March 5th, 2020? Is it really such a mystery that a DM would be sent exclusively to an apparent arch-nemesis shortly thereafter, aiming for empathic attunement from the absolute least likely candidate, from somebody notoriously known for blind overreactivity and emotional volatility, but not for the chance of subsequent arch-nemesis posted subtext for the relevantly involved to tune into?

You know, over-confidence is a few strokes away from putty, from well-deserved quicksand. It can always be discussed with like-minded cronies, or your bestie that’s off his clanging trolley.

My advice to anybody banned, wear it, own it. If a 2nd such exile, as I believe to be the case, all the more reason for learning from it. Interestingly, I have received reports that the other guy I think is often referenced is tracked as logging in, so life as he knew it is neither hardly over nor ever particularly bereft had the board not existed.

For my part, I don’t care where people have post privileges. Maligning me is not a privilege and a robust ‘what for’ will be the response. Mine is not a twisted end-game, more an end-game with twists, would that I could say with thrills chills spills as opposed to endless stifled yawns, yet minimally otherwise tarnishing  the delights of tourism. 

Edited June 24, 2023 by SirBillybob

[+ José Soplanucas]

Sometimes (too often), I act like a middle-schooler idiot. My apologies to the forum members trying to have an educative conversation. 

Let's try to redirect the discussion back to the topic. Entitled "first worlders" are a pain in the ass, ruining the traveling experience for many. Hopefully, some of the many friends who read this blog to educate themselves before starting an adventure will take advantage of an informative thread.

Sometimes it is not easy to be aware of our biases and behaviors. Although I am not a Karen, I tend to be self-centered, and I have ignored others' perspectives when on a trip abroad. Although criticizing others is perfectly legit, it is not about pointing fingers but reflecting on our behavior.

[SirBillybob]

14 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

Sometimes (too often), I act like a middle-schooler idiot.

Interesting. Wonder where they get it from.