Somebody please help me with my underwear.

[RockHard]

I don't ask much from you guys but I could use a hand with my underpants. :-)

 

I'm searching for a new, everyday-wear brand. I had been a loyal, Calvin Klein fan for many years, particularly his button-down boxer brief, but the quality died when Calvin sold. The licensee uses a thin, flimsy cotton and the elastic waistbands curl. I HATE them. Ever since Calvin sold the company, anything with his label has gone the way of Donna Karan. These clothes are no longer suitable for "real" men seeking quality.

 

I don't have much time to shop and experiment with purchases. Plus, sales-folk in NYC stores get hissy if they see you taking underwear boxes into the dressing rooms. I'm not fond of being sneaky.

 

So, maybe some of you tall, gym-body men, with hips and ass like a football player, can help me. (To all you 32-inch-waist nymphettes, thanks but no thanks. You just have to have child-bearing hips to understand my frustration here.)

 

I don't care about price (surprise) or the location of a store. As long as they have a phone, I can manage a sale. I'm really looking for something that makes me feel rich and comfortable. I prefer button-fly boxer styles that won't bind me with a durable waistband. Most importantly, I need more length from balls to waist than average. I'm a tall guy and I like the feel of my cock and balls swinging. I don't like fabric between my balls and leg.

 

I own a few 3404 2(x)ist but these luxe boxers are not open fly. They're nice, fit well, and feel good on but they tend to make me feel like I'm a ballet dancer in spandex. Same with the 2904 Pima.

 

I have no experience with any other boxer-styles/brands. I'm open to any serious-minded feedback and/or recommendations.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

ps If you prefer to take this private, please email me at rockhard10003@yahoo.com. Put M4M in the subject line, otherwise it will end up in bulk trash.

[Steven_Draker]

http://www.topdrawers.com/underwear/mansilk/images/m333j.jpg

[Steven_Draker]

Have you checked Underneath.com, RockHard ?

 

http://www.underneath.com/shopstyle/boxers.htm

 

 

Steven Draker ~

http://www.hotsexystud.com/uk

[Rick Munroe]

Rock, this really blows my mind. I totally had you pegged as a commando kind of guy. :o

[Guest PWIT]

Not sure if will meet all your requirements, but I have found the UnderArmour quality to my liking. Link below should take you to their boxers.

 

http://www.underarmour.com/ProductDetail.cfm?site_id=1&dept_id=7&coll_id=31&pf_id=1000668

[RockHard]

Leave it to Steven to inspire and deliver! :-)

 

At first, the Mansilk image scared me except for the model. He's hot! I have large nipples and I love them on other guys, too. But I don't do silk underwear or bedding. Silk doesn't breathe and it's a real pain to keep clean. It's also difficult to keep things on the bed. I once fucked a skinny bottom so hard on silk sheets he nearly slid across to the other side of the room with too hard a thrust. Never again.

 

The underneath.com website also scared me, initially, until I went through the pages. It's practically impossible to choose from pictures because everyone in advertising knows that most underwear models are small, thin guys. They photograph better, especially the ones with good muscle definition. I have a 38-inch waist and a 44-inch chest: you will never see that in an underwear ad so it's very difficult to tell how the larger sizes fit. I have the same issue with tank tops.

 

It may be a bit impractical (and over the top) for everyday, but I forgot about the Hanro brand. The Hanro Cotton Rib pant and Cotton Stretch boxer look like they could work for me. Does anyone have any experience with this brand or these styles? Hanro's website is insanely slow Flash but it's beautifully designed. (hint, hint, Steven)

 

Seems like the Swiss really have the corner on luxe underwear. The Zimmerli Cotton lisle mercerized jersey boxer (Royal Star open fly) looks great but I have no idea how this brand fits. Can anyone help? http://www.zimmerlitextil.ch/index.html

 

Spank has two possible options although I prefer not to ad width with too much gathered fabric at the waist. It's impossible to tell without trying one on. Both cotton boxer shorts look interesting. I believe they're based in the UK. http://www.sexypantiesandnaughtyknickers.com/range.aspx?id=6&orderID=-1

 

I already own several Sloggi boxers but they don't have button flys. But their larger sizes fit my ass well. Some of their designs are ugly, though.

 

Intimissimi in Rome fits me well but, again, there's just too much lycra.

 

I've had some luck with DIM, considering none of the French have fat asses. They, too, have a great website and I love the images of their men. http://www.dim.fr/index.aspx Click on collections at the bottom navigation bar and then stick with Sous-vêtements Homme to get you through the various styles.

 

Thanks for your help, Steven.

 

As for going commando, maybe in my home and at the gym but never when I'm dressed for other occasions. I don't want my cock to be clearly defined in my dress slacks and I especially don't want piss stains on my clothing. Sometimes I'll go commando when wearing jeans, especially if I sense sex will be part of the mix but the denim has to be very soft. What can I say other than I've got sensitive skin.

 

Underarmour is available at Paragon Sports. I'm not familiar with them but I'll check them out. Thanks.

[Guest zipperzone]

So much more information than we wanted to know.

 

Not sure what your big nipples (read tits) have to do with your choice in boxers, but there is probably some connection if I dwell on it long enough. (which I won't)

 

38 waist eh? Portly is the correct term for your figure.

 

Why don't you just wear a jock? It's half way to commando and will keep those piss stains of those lovely dress slacks.

[RockHard]

RE: Wishing to be cute.

 

"Not sure what your big nipples (read tits) have to do with your choice in boxers"

 

Well, dude, here's a little secret: the comment was intended for my friend, Steven Draker. It wasn't intended for you. And I'll bet he "got" the connection.

 

"38 waist eh? Portly is the correct term for your figure"

 

Maybe in your mirror, pal, but I'm 6'4". Nobody's ever referred to me as portly. The only port in my life is in my wine collection. But thanks for sharing your keen and friendly insight on the subject. You've been most helpful.

[bigguyinpasadena]

RE: Wishing to be cute.

 

Slightly boring but incredible quality underwear-the answer is Swiss!Hunro or Zimmalli.Will last forever if laundered properly.

Personally-and this will get a chuckle out of some!-there is an "urban"clothing line called Roccawear and there boxer briefs are great for me-long leg,non binding,good cut for the fat man,and they launder/last quite well.Hard to find and not cheap(but much cheaper than hanro)

[DaninWA]

Rockhard,

 

It seems that you have found several brands that appeal to you. Why not try one or two of each and then stick with whichever one(s) feel most comfortable?

 

Dan

[RockHard]

"Slightly boring but incredible quality underwear-the answer is Swiss! Hunro or Zimmalli.Will last forever if laundered properly."

 

My days of looking for fireworks when I drop my pants are over. You get what's underneath the wrapping, anyway. As long as I'm not wearing anything by Playtex, I can handle boring if it comes with the feel of elegance and comfort.

 

I employ a woman who has been caring for my wardrobe for the past 18 years. I stopped doing laundry when I realized it was more lucrative to hire someone else to do it. She hand-washes my expensive washables in Woolite and lets them air-dry. My home has a decent terrace.

 

Someone reminded me that Saks carries Hanro. I will try to send someone over there soon. Also, I'll be near Switzerland later this summer. Now I have a reason to go shopping.

 

Bigguy, much of my casual clothing consists of home-boy labels, Roccawear among them. I did not know they make underwear. I will check that out. I know from experience, if a particular label fits a black man's body well, it's sure to fit mine.

 

I have no experience with Hugo Boss and Tommy Hilfiger underwear. I also don't want brand names peaking through my thin linen slacks on the waist band. Contrary to the belief of some, I can't stand label queens. (Just ask handsome and sexy Scott Adler.)

 

"Why not try one or two of each and then stick with whichever one(s) feel most comfortable?"

 

This has been my typical MO. You just can't imagine how many pricey items (like HOM) I've thrown away through the years because the XL's were made for West Hollywood twinks. Nobody wants used underwear even if it wasn't worn. (I'm not a porn star.)

 

When Calvin came out with the button-fly boxers many years ago and I fell in love with the fit and quality, I stocked up. It's possible I had at least a hundred pair in storage at one time. That supply is gone now and, like I said, the new stuff is crap and I learned that the hard way. I bought 20 boxes and ended up giving the majority away.

 

I don't enjoy throwing money in the trash anymore which is why I'm a member of this site. Word of mouth and experience are the best tools for finding quality. (With age comes wisdom.) I figured if men are willing to drop $250-an-hour for a questionable fuck, someone ought to know how a $100 pair of Hanro fits. High quality men don't dress their goods in just any old thing. :-)

[bigguyinpasadena]

Bergdorfs, Saks,Barneys all carry Hanro-but why send someone out?This is the best cruising ploy there is!And maybe you can find a cute young clerk who would appriciate a nice evening out(and might need a little "help"in an expensive city like NYC)send the help out for toothpaste and toilet paper-leave the fun shopping for yourself!

Of course as much as I detest shopping-I love it when my boss gives me errends like this since I can usually put a nice lunch on my expense account(sometimes lunch for two!)

[+ Tom Isern]

"I figured if men are willing to drop $250-an-hour for a questionable fuck, someone ought to know how a $100 pair of Hanro fits. High quality men don't dress their goods in just any old thing."

 

*********

 

Love the equation:

 

"high-quality men" = those willing to spend $100/pair for underwear.

[RockHard]

Sorry, Tom, but you got the equation wrong. It should read:

 

High-quality men who treasure their goods=those willing to spend $100/pair for underwear.

[Guest msclonly]

Forgive my comment, but it sounds like you use underwear like toilet paper to go through 100 pair, that were handwashed in Wooolite and air dried.

It is the dryers, that destroy underwear unless you ...............!

 

Like you found a favorite brand, I liked the Munsingwear Kangaroo pouch briefs for years. Easy to wear. Then one day discovered they were no longer the same, since the company was sold.

 

Now it is Jocky Boxer Briefs for comfort. Boxers have just too much fabric too stuff in the pants and then floats around.

 

:+

[whipped guy]

Re: "It is the dryers, that destroy underwear unless you...............!"

 

That's why I never put my white briefs in a dryer... and regarding other ways underwear can get destroyed I learned the hard way, never wear a treasured pair when doing BDSM...

[RockHard]

"Forgive my comment, but it sounds like you use underwear like toilet paper to go through 100 pair"

 

Well, it took years to finish off my entire storage stock and I'm no fan of lifeless, over-washed underwear. I throw shit out when it no longer pleases me. Plus, I don't have the time or desire to shop often.

 

NYC has great sales so it paid nicely to stock up on a favorite, often-used item. I haven't had the need to purchase underwear for quite some time but, with this lengthy trip to Sardinia coming up, I need to address this issue now. For me, underwear and shoes have to be comfortable, otherwise I'm as miserable as Tom Isern.

 

The delicate cycle on a washing machine is fine but absolutely no dryers.

 

Some boxers don't have excessive fabric. It's hard to know which brands/styles do unless you can get tons of feedback from varied customers.

 

I sent one of my cute, gay assistants shopping yesterday. He found sales everywhere. I'll report back later after I try the stuff on.

 

ps I don't do BDSM.

[whipped guy]

Re: "Well, it took years to finish off my entire storage stock... For me,underwear and shoes have to be comfortable, otherwise I'm as miserable as Tom Isern."

 

Rock... Glad to hear that I'm not the only one who stocks up on underwear... and gets miserable if his shoes and underwear are not comfortable... and also add socks to the equation as well... Gee! Sounds like I'm a guy who's not into pain!!

[RockHard]

"and also add socks to the equation as well"

 

Don't get me started on men's socks. If there's one thing I will absolutely not tolerate is a sock that slides down the calf while walking and 99% of men's socks do. I've been known to stop in the middle of the block, remove the offending socks and pitch them into the nearest trash bin. I realize part of the problem is my thick calves. I had them long before I started working out and I never work them in the gym. Leg men love mine until I put on a pair of lousy socks.

 

I won't share my work-around with the sock issue here because that'll be like mbarz booking an appointment with Tom Isern and having me pick up the tab. I'm a generous guy but I have my limits. :-)

[+ Lucky]

RE: It Depends

 

"I throw shit out when it no longer pleases me."

 

Really?

[whipped guy]

Re: "I realize part of the problem is my thick calves. I had them long before I started working out and I never work them in the gym."

 

Shoot... I can relate exactly to that! My solution was found at Wal-Mart of all places, but the SOB's discontinued the product line... Thank the gods I stocked up!

[Guest msclonly]

RE: It Depends

 

Buying a hundred or a dozen may not be all bad, as long as your size doesn't change. Seems I have some unopened packs, and waiting for the day for them to be the correct size!

 

:+

[+ Tom Isern]

There once was a time when a "high quality" person was someone who made a significant contribution in science, the arts, or the humanities; or perhaps someone who invented something useful, or discovered something revolutionary. A recent PBS documentary on Ben Franklin pointed out how much money he could have made had he chosen to patent the lightning rod.

 

A "high-quality" person was once someone who devoted his or her life to a noble cause like teaching, to helping others, to a higher calling, or to a fight for social justice. Those days seem very distant. It might sound a little elitist, but I'll take that way of thinking over the crass materialism of American culture today.

 

Maybe Rockhead is right, and the measure of a human being IS taken in the size of their bank account and the cost of the underwear they wear. That would be ample cause for any thinking person--poor or royal--to be miserable.

[RockHard]

Oh my goodness, and some have the nerve to call my writing pretentious. This was a thread asking for help with the purchase of underwear, not an application for the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

"Maybe Rockhead is right, and the measure of a human being IS taken in the size of their bank account and the cost of the underwear they wear."

 

I never said that. Talk about raping and pillaging my words. Are you a member of Al Qaeda, Tom?

 

I believe it was in my very first post that I wrote:

 

"I don't care about price (surprise) or the location of a store." Any grade-school drop-out could see that "not caring about price" included everything from T.J.Maxx-in-the-hood to a plane ticket to Switzerland. In addition, I don't know one idiot who longs for asperges vertes piss stains or an attack of Montezuma's Revenge to show up on his over-priced Zimmerlis, especially if they don't meet my fit/comfort requirements.

 

Tom, you silly boy. You keep trying to provide drama but that dog won't hunt. I guess I don't have to say "keep trying" because we all know you will.

 

As for my findings, I haven't had time to try-on the selection that was purchased for me, which includes some Hanros, so I'll get back to you all later.

[Lookin]

The Cat in the Drawers

 

 

( with affection for the OP, and hopes

that the search continues to go well ;-) )

 

 

 

When RockHard needs a pair of drawers,

He does not buy in threes or fours.

He buys a dozen, maybe more,

And then he tries a second store.

 

He does not wear them right away.

He saves them for another day.

He guards them well against all evils,

And keeps them safe from moths and weevils.

 

He does not buy them for himself,

To sit upon his closet shelf.

He sends a clerk in his employ:

An up and coming office boy.

 

He won’t buy silk or pima cotton.

And coarser grades would feel just rotten.

He knows how soft the cloth must be.

He’s read The Princess and the Pea.

 

Elastic waistbands mustn’t bunch,

Especially when he’s out to lunch.

Though skimpy French ones earn a pass,

Their larger sizes fit his ass.

 

The labels aren’t a prime concern,

Like trading barbs with Tom Isern.

On foreign brands he’s somewhat foggy,

But owns a few from DIM and Sloggi.

 

If ever piss stains mar their brightness,

A laundress rinses back their whiteness,

By hand, as for a wealthy heiress,

Then airs them on the generous terrace.

 

To dress his goods the way he likes,

For business, play, or riding bikes,

Does not come cheap, but never mind,

It’s worth the price, if they don’t bind.

 

I did not make this up, my dear.

It’s just above. I read it here.

And soon, amidst the butts and cocks,

We’ll get to hear about his socks.

 

There’ll be no groans, guffaws, or snickers,

As we all help Rock with his knickers.

For guidance he has come to us.

Be glad he does not need a truss.