Love, Escort, Client? Odd?

[Vincent_Michael]

This is something werid I must admit..Love!

 

I ofcourse as some of you know do things diffrent than most escorts..

 

I find my self spending time with some of my clients talking to them and being with them over and over, They call me not just to hire me but to see how I am doing and the odd thing is I find that I do the same.

 

Soo I find over time I look at some of these men and I am in total AWW. They are some of the sexist men in my eyes because there the smartest and most carring men I could ever find in the world. (Brains in a total turn on guys)

 

Maybe I am dumb, Maybe I am way to honest for my own good and maybe I am just telling it like it is...I dont know but in all honest openion I do feel I care allot for many of the men I am with and some of them I find that at the end of a overnight or a appointment I wish they never had to leave!

 

Do any of you guys feel the same way?

 

Spelling man

[Spida]

Again I wish I lived in San Antonio :-)

[Vincent_Michael]

Well were are you from?

 

On a seprate note I am shocked that no one is relating...Maybe it is to early in the game

[+ deej]

>I am shocked that no one is relating...

 

It's been covered before, heatedly. }( Do a forum search for "Whammers".

 

Let me summarize: some clients genuinely value the companionship part (Charmers), while others just want a receptacle or a big dick (Whammers). Some escorts prefer the former, others the latter, but few will own up to it either way fearing they'd close the door on potential new business. :7

 

In any case, each camp thinks the other is nuts. :+

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Nice use of nicknames Deej

 

Can i be a 'Cammer' and simply do naughty things on-cam for all of Male4Male to see? Heck, i'll even invite a few Brazillian boys for everyone to sample on-cam as well...

 

*evil grin*

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[+ deej]

Someone else (TY?) picked the nicknames babe.

 

I just re-told the tale.

[Boston Guy]

>Someone else (TY?) picked the nicknames babe.

>

>I just re-told the tale.

 

Those were the names I coined in a post here a long time ago. "Whammers" came from the old phrase "Wham, Bam, Thank you, Ma'am!" and "Charmers" is obvious.

 

I always enjoy seeing them pop up again, which they do from time to time. Thanks for resurrecting them one more time.

 

BG

[Vincent_Michael]

AHHH...Old topic! I should have guessed.

 

Why not talk about it again? Serious people it was not ment to tell you I love anyone or that I hope someone loves me...But I wanted to know how the escorts felt.

 

I know there are WHAM-BAM and then the Charmers but what do we the escorts think? How do you feel at times? Ok so I am getting a little deep here but....Thats me a deep thinker.

[Vincent_Michael]

Ben you could charm the world I am sure! Wink...

[skins1]

"...I dont know but in all honest openion I do feel I care allot for many of the men I am with and some of them I find that at the end of a overnight or a appointment I wish they never had to leave!"

 

who says you can't ask them to stay? and if you did ask them to stay would you expect to get paid? if you didn't ask for payment then maybe the client will start to assume that you indeed want to take this client/escort relationship one step forward. "my god," the client might say, "vincent really likes me and maybe it could become more!?" so the next time he sees you does he pay you or not.

 

do you care for them enough to not ask for payment???

[+ deej]

>Those were the names I coined

 

Ya know, I was pretty sure it was either you or TY. I guessed wrong. <sigh> Sorry!

[Vincent_Michael]

Shocker I already do see some of my former clients without pay and they are very important to me! We talk often and I see them as often as I can.

 

There are people who I could see this happining to again

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

... I can also out-suck a Hoover vacuum, but that's another time and another story. Wait for that tale in my memoir

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[Rick Munroe]

> Can i be a 'Cammer' and simply do naughty things on-cam for

>all of Male4Male to see?

 

And Derek and I can be Jammers and Gammers (since he likes to jam his cock into tight places, and I like to show off my sexy gams) (I know, even I groaned at how bad that was).

[bigguyinpasadena]

Vincent,in the past I have always had a couple of guys that I hired as a one time sex thing that if the chemistry was right(and my finances were in order)I would see on a regular basis.Sometimes this became more than a hooker/john thing,the boys knew I would help them out if and when needed and the rest of the time would be for fun.

As I have grown older these relationships have dwindled to a sparse 3 or 4 guys.Unfortunatly most have substance issues(speed)and so I find myself less and less inclined to help them out of jams.And,since i now hang out with guys my age or older,the new faces and I just do not meet that often.

There is much to be said for a friend who will hand you $50-$500 without too many(or no) strings.

[Vincent_Michael]

Hard one to reply to..I personly have four freinds that are very close but I have had people who were involved in my life who ended up doing some fourm of drug or anouther and I just thank them and move on. I dont want to be assoicated with people who do it.

 

I help people out of hard situations as often as I can as well..I think it is my way of tithing.

 

Hug

[BostonChris]

Very, very intersting.

As an escort, and trying to remain professional, I try to not get so emotionally attached to clients. However, that being said, I do share a lot of myself with clients, more so than I could my family and friends (and no I'm not talking about sex). Their compassion and interest is definitely a turn-on, and a deep comfort as well. It's ironic. On one hand, escorting can appear to be preventative in terms of relationships. That is, I don't have a boyfriend, and I'm not really looking. But the ironic part, I have had some amazing clients that I would love to go further with. But again, I try to keep things professional. And yes, I know all of this is far from interesting, it's more frustrating than anything. Perhaps these feelings are simply projection of my internal physical needs to want to have someone by my side when I sleep, or perhaps it's something more. Who knows.

Just this escort's opinion.

-BostonChris (Chris #2)

[AaronWestin]

>Well were are you from?

>

>On a seprate note I am shocked that no one is relating...Maybe

>it is to early in the game

Vincent

I believe that getting too attached to a client is not a good idea although in my career as an escort I met a handful of people that I became very close to. One of them passed away April 03, 2001. I was devastated after seeing him regularily for three years. This was a friendship made when I was still just dancing at go-go bars in South Florida.

A couple others have remained my friends even after I took a year out of the business. One of them who I consider to be a very very close friend actually just came to stay with me at my place in Canada for the Toronto Film Festival.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that I've loved anyone in particular, as I am not even sure that I have ever really been "IN LOVE" You definitely meet some very interesting people in this business. Some I could have lived without and some have taught me invaluable lessons in business, life and even about friendship and a human bond.

One thing that even my clients turned friends have to realize that although I consider them a friend. If escorting is my livlihood then they should keep the business separate from the friendship then both can be satisfied.

Aaron Westin

[Vincent_Michael]

Can I be in love? I think yes I think that Love is your willingness to self sacrifice your self for someone else. So with that said I think I do love not just one person but many. I used to think I could only love one person but I understand that love is not that small. I also am capable of affection but that in my opinion is different that love.

[Flower]

>Can I be in love? I think yes I think that Love is your

>willingness to self sacrifice your self for someone else. So

>with that said I think I do love not just one person but many.

>I used to think I could only love one person but I understand

>that love is not that small. I also am capable of affection

>but that in my opinion is different that love.

 

I haven't met you but when I read your posts feel like I'm getting the real deal--no pretense or phoniness--just the real you and that's as refreshing as it is sweet. There are way too many cynics here that feel that a commercial relationships precludes a personal one of any significant meaning--I disagree totally, although as in any relationship where you open up to someone, the potential for hurt is there--but that doesn't mean you should avoid it.

 

So yes, I believe that there can be love or even "in-love" (there's a difference) going both ways in your situation. Age and looks are not necessarily the only criteria or even THE criteria here--I've met some very hot, young air-heads whom I couldn't care less about seeing again. While I like brains and good conversation, I value most someone who talks from the heart without all the defensiveness that more jaded people possess

 

I'm just taking a stab-in-the-dark but I bet you have a lot of clients that love back :*

[Vincent_Michael]

I totally agree with you about having a hot body and what not, I feel you can have all that but what I really care about is the person above all else. Now I might get hurt but hey that is part of life and I am willing to take the risk.

 

Thanks for saying those nice things about me! I am only trying to be me and I suppose that’s different (All because my parents dropped me as a baby!) LOL.

 

I hope to see you one day!

[LovesYng]

>(All because my parents dropped me as a baby!) LOL.

>

DAMN is that why your so nice, got to remember that in the future to tell me friends, "DROP THE KIDS"

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Spida]

V

 

I am from Boston, don't forget to let me know if you are headed up anywhere here in the northeast! You not only sound like a great escort but a very cool guy with a big heart.

 

And on another note, I don't know if it is marketing or what (maybe I am cynical) but one of the escorts I have seen a few times, emails and or calls just to say hello now and again, even though I haven't hired him in quite a while. We had a great time when I did and really connected. I don't like to waste time when people are working, so just about an hour I start to get going. He always talked and asked me to stay get a bite to eat ect. If I had met him in a club we would have gotten along really well just clicked.

 

Again, maybe it is his way of marketing but I don't think so.

 

Spida

[guptasa1]

As a client, I have to say this doesn't seem odd to me at all. I think falling deeply in love with an escort is a mistake, obviously because it can lead to heartbreak. But I think it's still very possible for a love to develop, of sorts, between the two, and I feel there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, the possibility of this fondness and trust developing is probably the most important factor for me in choosing to see someone again.

 

I know with my favorite (now-retired, so I choose not to name him) escort, a love and trust definitely developed on my end (not "in love", but a genuine fondness...and I have greatly missed him since he retired), and I would hope a fondness for me developed on his end as well. I had some of the very best times of my life with this person, trusted him enough to send payment in advance, etc. He let me stay with him at his place, cooked me breakfast, showed me all the sites, etc., and I always knew I could count on being treated really well when I was with him (and I always tried to do the same with him). The thing that was most amazing about him is that he was really genuine. When I was with him, I knew I was spending time with a very real person, and he didn't seem paranoid or unwilling about sharing just a little of his life and himself with me, which meant a lot. In a sense, it felt like I had a big brother for a while (which, for me anyhow, was amazing), and he also taught me a lot in sexual areas (he was really my first dom, and he took it slow and was awesome with me...probably the best sex I've ever had). We even had a few rough patches (just misunderstandings on both ends) that got resolved as friends, and I just knew I was with a real person the whole time and not a facade.

 

In my opinion, the BEST escorts, for me, are escorts that I can bond with in some respects and who are the real deal. And I think the love and bond that can develop in that situation is wonderful.

[Stupid Cupid]

Being the devil's advocate...it's real bad business to mix business and pleasure.

Me-thinks, being the Devil's Advocate that this piece was written for PR .....smack myself for being so hard!!

The reality is that 99% of escors follow Rule (3) which is

"blow and go" !!