starting questions: general and specific

[Guest siren_silence]

Hello,

 

I am about to get started as an escort. I'm hoping that you guys can help me out with some questions that I have.

 

1. how do i get started?

 

2. I am small sized. what do i do if after a session a client refuses to pay, seeing that i am small sized and unlikely to fight back?

 

3. how do i stay out of the way of the law and how get charged for prostitution?

 

4. what if some clients turn dangerous/ violent and force me to do things i don't want to do?

 

5. anything else i should look out for?

 

 

appreciate any and all comments you might have. thanks a lot.

 

SEXSIREN

[JamesK840]

Well, since nobody else has replied yet, I figured I'd give you client's perspective who's been a bit fascinated by the industry and hired from pretty seedy places.

 

>Hello,

>

>I am about to get started as an escort. I'm hoping that you

>guys can help me out with some questions that I have.

 

Welcome to the Message Center! If you're anywhere near LA you'd be welcome to join us at an LA gathering, and there are probably other gatherings and many other Hoovillians, both escorts and clients, who'd be glad to have lunch or dinner with you and talk things over.

 

>1. how do i get started?

 

I'd think you've made a great start by finding this place. You can announce yourself in the Deli, as well as Escort Travels. A website (even *bleck* AOL) with a couple pictures wouldn't hurt either. That may be all you need. Otherwise, you may try Craig's List if it's active in your city, or local gay publications that take escort listings. You may also find an established escort who could bring you along on a call with a regular who would like to try a 3 way, could be a great way to dip your toe in.

 

>2. I am small sized. what do i do if after a session a client

>refuses to pay, seeing that i am small sized and unlikely to

>fight back?

 

This may happen, but would seem pretty unlikely. If it does happen, you leave, lesson learned. Or you could skip the experience in the first place by listening to your gut when it tells you something's not right. Don't ask for the money up front though, that hurts you on the question below, and puts clients off.

 

>3. how do i stay out of the way of the law and how get charged

>for prostitution?

 

This has been discussed on this board quite a lot, look back through the archives, I think in the Daddy's Place forum tells you how to set it not to hide older messages. I believe the consensus is that it is a danger, there's no foolproof way. The best you can do is not agree to money for sex (or work in a Nevada brothel or foreign country where it's absolutely legal). *You're selling your company*, anything that happens happens between consenting adults. It gets a little dicey when you discuss your preferences, I.E. top/bottom/etc, but that's just what you personally like and not necessarily related to the issue of being paid for *companionship*.

 

>4. what if some clients turn dangerous/ violent and force me

>to do things i don't want to do?

 

Make sure you have some record of who you're going to see. A phone number, for example, and leaving a copy of it at home (maybe telling a friend about where you'll leave it) is a good idea. If you're really paranoid you could check in with a friend before and after, but then you should probably be listening to your gut and not seeing that client in the first place.

 

>5. anything else i should look out for?

 

Practice safe sex: always wear condoms for anything anal and don't do anything with anybody who's tackle has sores/discharges/etc. Also, get tested regularly. Some clinics do it for free, but some easily cured STDs get worse over time and make it easier for you to catch worse ones.

 

Stay away from Coke/Crack/Crystal/Heroin/etc. For one, that's how your judgment gets impaired and you end up in those situations you're worried about or going along with unsafe sex. For another thing, if you're just there to pay for the next hit he isn't going to have much fun and things will go down hill for you fast.

 

The key to being a successful escort is treating it like a business and making sure the customer is satisfied. Repeat customers are probably the best kind, no effort involved, free money that comes to you and may refer friends. Putting effort into your ads/posts and correspondence with clients really helps too. Yes, a lot of contacts will go nowhere, but a couple of those may actually turn into something later on, and if you start to treat everybody like they're wasting your time even the serious ones are going to loose interest fast. You will get picture collectors asking for more photos, if you have a fair (AND RECENT) selection on the web or you sent it to them already that should be enough (time to ask for the sale, as they say in retail).

 

 

 

>

>appreciate any and all comments you might have. thanks a

>lot.

 

I'm not *the* authority on the subject, but I hope this was helpful.

 

Remeber, only get into it if you expect to have fun with it, because if you're not having fun the client could be having more fun with somebody else.

[JamesK840]

Well, since nobody else has replied yet, I figured I'd give you client's perspective who's been a bit fascinated by the industry and hired from pretty seedy places.

 

>Hello,

>

>I am about to get started as an escort. I'm hoping that you

>guys can help me out with some questions that I have.

 

Welcome to the Message Center! If you're anywhere near LA you'd be welcome to join us at an LA gathering, and there are probably other gatherings and many other Hoovillians, both escorts and clients, who'd be glad to have lunch or dinner with you and talk things over.

 

>1. how do i get started?

 

I'd think you've made a great start by finding this place. You can announce yourself in the Deli, as well as Escort Travels. A website (even *bleck* AOL) with a couple pictures wouldn't hurt either. That may be all you need. Otherwise, you may try Craig's List if it's active in your city, or local gay publications that take escort listings. You may also find an established escort who could bring you along on a call with a regular who would like to try a 3 way, could be a great way to dip your toe in.

 

>2. I am small sized. what do i do if after a session a client

>refuses to pay, seeing that i am small sized and unlikely to

>fight back?

 

This may happen, but would seem pretty unlikely. If it does happen, you leave, lesson learned. Or you could skip the experience in the first place by listening to your gut when it tells you something's not right. Don't ask for the money up front though, that hurts you on the question below, and puts clients off.

 

>3. how do i stay out of the way of the law and how get charged

>for prostitution?

 

This has been discussed on this board quite a lot, look back through the archives, I think in the Daddy's Place forum tells you how to set it not to hide older messages. I believe the consensus is that it is a danger, there's no foolproof way. The best you can do is not agree to money for sex (or work in a Nevada brothel or foreign country where it's absolutely legal). *You're selling your company*, anything that happens happens between consenting adults. It gets a little dicey when you discuss your preferences, I.E. top/bottom/etc, but that's just what you personally like and not necessarily related to the issue of being paid for *companionship*.

 

>4. what if some clients turn dangerous/ violent and force me

>to do things i don't want to do?

 

Make sure you have some record of who you're going to see. A phone number, for example, and leaving a copy of it at home (maybe telling a friend about where you'll leave it) is a good idea. If you're really paranoid you could check in with a friend before and after, but then you should probably be listening to your gut and not seeing that client in the first place.

 

>5. anything else i should look out for?

 

Practice safe sex: always wear condoms for anything anal and don't do anything with anybody who's tackle has sores/discharges/etc. Also, get tested regularly. Some clinics do it for free, but some easily cured STDs get worse over time and make it easier for you to catch worse ones.

 

Stay away from Coke/Crack/Crystal/Heroin/etc. For one, that's how your judgment gets impaired and you end up in those situations you're worried about or going along with unsafe sex. For another thing, if you're just there to pay for the next hit he isn't going to have much fun and things will go down hill for you fast.

 

The key to being a successful escort is treating it like a business and making sure the customer is satisfied. Repeat customers are probably the best kind, no effort involved, free money that comes to you and may refer friends. Putting effort into your ads/posts and correspondence with clients really helps too. Yes, a lot of contacts will go nowhere, but a couple of those may actually turn into something later on, and if you start to treat everybody like they're wasting your time even the serious ones are going to loose interest fast. You will get picture collectors asking for more photos, if you have a fair (AND RECENT) selection on the web or you sent it to them already that should be enough (time to ask for the sale, as they say in retail).

 

 

 

>

>appreciate any and all comments you might have. thanks a

>lot.

 

I'm not *the* authority on the subject, but I hope this was helpful.

 

Remeber, only get into it if you expect to have fun with it, because if you're not having fun the client could be having more fun with somebody else.

[BigK]

I think James has made some very good suggestions. Good luck in your endeavors.

[JamesK840]

>I think James has made some very good suggestions.

 

I hope so, surprised no escorts had anything to add.

 

Sexsiren, if you do get in the game, let us know how it goes!

[ready182]

I also am not an escort, but I would offer you this advice ...

 

Before you become an escort, try to first consider ALL of the worst possible outcomes from this decision, including both the probable and the improbable. Make yourself a list of the bad things that could possibly happen. Then, after you have made your list, analyze each item, to determine:

 

- How likely that this "bad thing" would occur?

- Can I live with it if it does occur?

 

Then after your analysis of all of the possible bad impacts, and their probabilities, and the impact they would have on your life, you then can properly decide if the benefits of becoming an escort outweigh the risks and possible consequences?

As for your list of "bad things", here are some suggestions to consider:

 

1. Your family and/or friends find out.

2. Risk of S.T.D.s.

3. Risk and impact of law enforcement activities.

4. As you mentioned, risk of physical assult by a client.

5. Any long-term implications (for example, adversely effecting your career goals).

6. Effect on your "Quality of Life". For example, impact on your free time.

7. Emotional impact.

 

etc.

 

I'm not intending to be "too negative" here -- just suggesting that you should think it completely through. Good luck!!!

 

Ready

[OneFinger]

James gave you some great suggestions. But I would add that you need to ensure your safety. Perhaps I'm being a little paranoid but here's what I would do if I were an escort:

 

[li]Book or confirm all appointments by e-mail. This way you have a paper trail that someone else can the follow should something happen. You can always delete the e-mails after a successful appointment to ensure privacy.

 

[li]If you work by phone, make sure you have caller ID and keep a record of phone numbers for clients. Your phone company can ensure that you cannot accept calls from blocked/hidden numbers. Do NOT accept anonymous calls.

 

[li]Try to get a cell phone or home phone number for potential clients.

 

[li]Make sure someone else knows you're going to an appointment and the approximate time you will return. If you don't call them within 1 hour after the appointment should end, have them call you on a cell phone or alert the police immediately.

 

[li]Do NOT take pepper spray, a knife, or gun with you to the appointment. If you are really are hired by a nut case, he would probably use these against you. In short, don't give him any "ammunition".

 

[li]If you are physically threatened and cannot escape a bad situation, take good mental notes about the other guy. What was he wearing? Are there identifying marks or tattoos on his body. What does his cock look like (cut/uncut, curves, mushroom head, etc) and can you identify him by his cock? Do NOT shower or clean up after a rape. Make sure a rape kit is done at a hospital.[/li]

 

Finally, I would suggest that you follow your instincts. If you "think" a potential client may be a little strange, then decline the appointment. Try to determine if the prospective client is a poster on this message board and read up on his posts.

 

Good luck and be sure to let us know how to contact you. I might in interested in hiring you. ;-)

[Guest zipperzone]

>I also am not an escort, but I would offer you this advice

>...

>

>Before you become an escort, try to first consider ALL of the

>worst possible outcomes from this decision, including both the

>probable and the improbable. Make yourself a list of the bad

>things that could possibly happen. Then, after you have made

>your list, analyze each item, to determine:

>

>- How likely that this "bad thing" would occur?

>- Can I live with it if it does occur?

>

>Then after your analysis of all of the possible bad impacts,

>and their probabilities, and the impact they would have on

>your life, you then can properly decide if the benefits of

>becoming an escort outweigh the risks and possible

>consequences?

>As for your list of "bad things", here are some suggestions to

>consider:

>

>1. Your family and/or friends find out.

>2. Risk of S.T.D.s.

>3. Risk and impact of law enforcement activities.

>4. As you mentioned, risk of physical assult by a client.

>5. Any long-term implications (for example, adversely

>effecting your career goals).

>6. Effect on your "Quality of Life". For example, impact on

>your free time.

>7. Emotional impact.

>

>etc.

>

>I'm not intending to be "too negative" here -- just suggesting

>that you should think it completely through. Good luck!!!

 

Do you by any chance, work in the Insurance Industry?

[Guest zipperzone]

You forsot to mention he shouldn't step outside his door as he might be hit by a truck!

 

Zipperzone

 

>James gave you some great suggestions. But I would add that

>you need to ensure your safety. Perhaps I'm being a little

>paranoid but here's what I would do if I were an escort:

>

>[li]Book or confirm all appointments by e-mail. This way you

>have a paper trail that someone else can the follow should

>something happen. You can always delete the e-mails after a

>successful appointment to ensure privacy.

>

>[li]If you work by phone, make sure you have caller ID and

>keep a record of phone numbers for clients. Your phone company

>can ensure that you cannot accept calls from blocked/hidden

>numbers. Do NOT accept anonymous calls.

>

>[li]Try to get a cell phone or home phone number for potential

>clients.

>

>[li]Make sure someone else knows you're going to an

>appointment and the approximate time you will return. If you

>don't call them within 1 hour after the appointment should

>end, have them call you on a cell phone or alert the police

>immediately.

>

>[li]Do NOT take pepper spray, a knife, or gun with you to the

>appointment. If you are really are hired by a nut case, he

>would probably use these against you. In short, don't give him

>any "ammunition".

>

>[li]If you are physically threatened and cannot escape a bad

>situation, take good mental notes about the other guy. What

>was he wearing? Are there identifying marks or tattoos on his

>body. What does his cock look like (cut/uncut, curves,

>mushroom head, etc) and can you identify him by his cock? Do

>NOT shower or clean up after a rape. Make sure a rape kit is

>done at a hospital.[/li]

>

>Finally, I would suggest that you follow your instincts. If

>you "think" a potential client may be a little strange, then

>decline the appointment. Try to determine if the prospective

>client is a poster on this message board and read up on his

>posts.

>

>Good luck and be sure to let us know how to contact you. I

>might in interested in hiring you. ;-)

[Juan Vancouver]

This is a looooong long post....... sorry

 

Hey man!

I am very surprised reading your post! I remember having answered to another post of yours at least three months ago, where you asked if escorting was worth trying. Many people adviced to look deep inside and evaluate the pros and cons and after that they (Us) gave you a lot of good advise on how to begin should you decided to do it...

I can see that you havent taken the leap yet, and I can also read that you seem a little bit preocupied by the possible "bad" things that could happen.

In my personal opinion, a successful escort is a very complex animal. We have to be a very delicate mix of street-wise, clever, adventurous, cynical, jaded, mistrusting businessman and psychic, mixed with the warmth, exhuberance, vulnerability, passion, innocence, willingness to explore and tender frailty of an in-love-teenager.

The few escorts that I personally know and admire for being happy successful, prolific businessmen, never asked anybody how to do it. They imagined a way and tried, and perfected it until they knew the business better than anyobody. Only that kind of ability to improvise will prevent you from being in such an ugly scene as you fear. And if you are in one of those scenes, only by possesing those skills you will be able to stay calm, focused and perfectly safe, healthy and in control.

My very respectful and loving advise (And I feel like a grandma writting this) is this:

 

1.- If you are thinking it over that much, perhaps there is an inner voice teeling you to think it all over again... If there is an inner voice saying "Dont do it" listen to it and I am sure that you will develop other talents that will allow you to make lots of money in a way that wont compromise your peace of mind nor integrity. (After all whoever told you that escorting is "easy money", certainly has no idea of how hard one has to work to become successful)

 

2.- If you are resolved to try escorting nontheless, then my advise is to find a reputable decent escort agency in your area and apply for work with them. They may take a big share, they may have a reduced market and you may not make as much money as you would want in the beginning, but they will tell you all the tricks of the trade, will protect you, will show you how to differentiate good from no good. After you feel that you have a mastership on the trade, you can become an independent and be sure that you know what there is to know. If no agency is near you, try to work with somebody that you trust.

 

I have been told in the past by clients and escort friends that I should open an Escort Academy. But until that happens, only experience, intelligence and a clear intuition will keep you thriving.

 

You just have to remember few things:

 

1.- You are perfect the way you are NOW. There is going to be people who likes you and wants you inmensely. Baby, you're worth it!

 

2.- You are in control of your life, the situation and your trade. You can ALWAYS stop what is happening and walk away.

 

3.- No money is worth more than your peace, self worth, health, integrity, etc. After all you are doing this because you love your profession, right? Not because you are desperate for the next 50 bucks.

 

4.- If you fake it, they can see it. Be genuine, open and honest about what is happenning during your sessions. Clients will always be thankfull.

 

5.- Be loving and respectfull. You are fulfilling a very important need. Intimacy, closeness, affection. If you honour that, magic will happen in your work and you will never be in an ugly situation.

 

6.- and yes... of course, stay away from drugs. (Any kind of drugs. They are always a catalyzer for trouble)

 

7.- Last but not least... ENJOY IT! If you are suffering it, you are in the wrong profession. There is always something that is enjoyable. Focus on that and make your income source a smile source too.

 

Man, this is a long post! Sorry guys....

I got these "Seven jewels for the succesful Ho" from Dame Edna Everage. I hope that you make the best choice, and I am sure that if you follow your heart (Sounds like a horrible common place) you will be safe, wealthy, healthy and happy.

 

Feel free to contact me. I would love to answer any question that you might have.

 

Receive a warm hug and my best wishes...

 

 

Happy money making! (In whatever you choose to do)

[Bilbo]

RE: This is a looooong long post....... sorry

 

I am just a bit surprised given that A. The person said that he was small in stature. and B. Juan remembered him as having posted nearly the identical question before, that no one asked for more details about this person before they blythely shared with him. We don't want the message center to blunder into giving such advice to a minor, do we? And remember, we are in a bit of a fish bowl here. In the history of the center (and I have been reminded by recent thread resurfacings that I have been here for at least seven years) we have several times had posters ask and reask questions like these to the point that it was wondered aloud if they were policemen or such trying to enforce morals. (I won't use the word entrapment, because I am told that when I do I use it incorrectly - legally incorrectly anyway.) }(

[N.N.]

JamesK840 wrote

 

>The best you can do is not agree to money for sex (or work in

>a Nevada brothel or foreign country where it's absolutely

>legal).

 

Male prostitution is not legal in Nevada.

[JamesK840]

Nevada Brothels

 

>Male prostitution is not legal in Nevada.

 

In brothels? Even for female clients? Nevada can be surprisingly conservative so I wouldn't be that surprised, but you would think people would be questioning it by now... And I could swear there was a very brief mention of male sex workers in some NV brothel documentary I watched once.

 

If the damn brothels didn't have to be in the middle of nowhere it could be fun to run one, especially if you could have guys... Too bad nobody's put one along the 15, on the way in from LA. I'm sure they would have if they could...

 

I wonder, could Native American tribes operate one (outside of Nevada) if they wanted to?

[N.N.]

RE: Nevada Brothels

 

>>Male prostitution is not legal in Nevada.

>

>In brothels? Even for female clients? Nevada can be

>surprisingly conservative so I wouldn't be that surprised, but

>you would think people would be questioning it by now... And

>I could swear there was a very brief mention of male sex

>workers in some NV brothel documentary I watched once.

 

It was my understanding that it wasn't legal, but I'm

not 100% sure how the law stands right now. I don't

know of any brothel in Nevada with males available

(for clients of either sex).

 

 

>If the damn brothels didn't have to be in the middle of

>nowhere it could be fun to run one, especially if you could

>have guys... Too bad nobody's put one along the 15, on the

>way in from LA. I'm sure they would have if they could...

 

The Nevada portion of I-15 lies completely within the same county

as Las Vegas (Clark County) which doesn't allow prostitution.

 

 

>I wonder, could Native American tribes operate one (outside of

>Nevada) if they wanted to?

 

Interesting question...!

[bigguyinpasadena]

RE: Nevada Brothels

 

Of course there are legal brothels in Nevada-just in certain counties though.

Winnamucca,Paruhmp and outside Reno have the highest number.

If you call ahead and talk to the manager they might be able to set up a male/male liasson-I did it once at the ranch near Reno.

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: Nevada Brothels

 

>Of course there are legal brothels in Nevada-just in certain

>counties though.

>Winnamucca,Paruhmp and outside Reno have the highest number.

>If you call ahead and talk to the manager they might be able

>to set up a male/male liasson-I did it once at the ranch near

>Reno.

 

Cool - but were you not taking quite a chance? What if the guy turned out to be a dog or not you're type? Did you get to have any imput into the type you were looking for?

[bigguyinpasadena]

RE: Nevada Brothels

 

It was for a bachelors party thing-I was going to have to pay anyway and I would rather take my chances than sit in an empty room(or chatting with a female hooker)for 40 mins,turned out fine-the guy was trade,ok looking,big dick.

[JamesK840]

RE: Nevada Brothels

 

>>If the damn brothels didn't have to be in the middle of

>>nowhere it could be fun to run one, especially if you could

>>have guys... Too bad nobody's put one along the 15, on the

>>way in from LA. I'm sure they would have if they could...

>

>The Nevada portion of I-15 lies completely within the same

>county as Las Vegas (Clark County) which doesn't allow prostitution.

 

That's what I figured. Clark also seems to cover where the 40 enters NV (Needles--Laughlin)... it's like they were trying to make it very hard to get to any from LA!

 

>>I wonder, could Native American tribes operate one (outside

>>of Nevada) if they wanted to?

>

>Interesting question...!

 

Who do we call?? Maybe BGP and I can run one out of the nearest Casino, hmm... I know how I'd take my management fee! }(