Does this warrant as a no show?

[Troyster]

Here's the story, you decide how this young man should be treated as an unfortunate or as a no show.

 

Traveling on business and after reading a series of positive reviews here I spotted a young man (who will remain nameless for the moment) on line. It must have been about 10 pm. We chatted back and forth and he asked if I was interested in a visit and I said yes. He said it would take about 20 minutes for him to get there at that hour of the evening as he had to get on a train. I said ok and asked if we could talk on the telephone first to make sure I had made the right choice. I called him on my cell phone to "his" cell phone and we talked. He seemed like a nice guy if a little "gollie gee" especially for an experienced guy with a dozen or more positive reviews. I gave him the name of the hotel and the location along with my room number. He said 20 minutes at about 10:20.

 

I prepared for our meeting and at around 11 still no one had arrived. I figured well at this hour may be things were moving slowly or may be he was not really ready to walk out the door at 10:20 even though he said he was.

 

At 11 I called "his" cell phone and his roommate answered and assured me he was on the way.

 

At 11:30 with still no arrival I called the number I had and the roommate and said what gives? When did he leave? What cell does he have on him? He assures me that the guy left a long time ago and can not understand where he is. He does not have a cell phone on him though because the guy's cell phone was turned off and the number he gave me was actually his friend's. The friend says I have your number from caller ID and if he call me I will tell him. I said ok but unless he is about to arrive let's call it a miss.

 

At 11:55 with still no call back and no arrival I said I am going to bed lonely. Then I decided to check my email and low and behold there is a message from the guy at 11:50 saying that I had sent him to the wrong place and I was not cool.

 

The guy was still on line so I paged him and said a no show is not cool. He proceeds to tell me that he went to Hotel X at the location I gave him and there was no 36th floor -- where I said I was. I said that is not the hotel I told you I was in. You were on the west side of the street and a block away from where I said I was. He says there is no hotel where you said you were and he went to the hotel I told him I was in. I email him the url for my hotel's web page and after a back and forth he gives me a message about how he was already stood up once tonight, is having a bad week, has not worked, his phone was turned off, etc. etc. etc. I said why did you not call me? (I think pay phones still exists, don't they?!?!) I reminded him I called the number he gave me twice and talked to his friend. He had my number. I asked if you could not find me why not call me? He finally say I fell like an a$$#*!e and I am sorry for screwing up your evening.

 

Unprofessional?

Inmature mentally?

Just an unfortunate?

Deserving to be written up as a no show?

 

You all decide and I will follow the consensus if I write him up as a no show or if I just chalk it up to a bad selection and a full moon and get on with my life.

 

Troyster

[marc anthony]

>Here's the story, you decide how this young man should be

>treated as an unfortunate or as a no show.

 

 

>

>Unprofessional?

>Inmature mentally?

>Just an unfortunate?

 

 

I am just guessing that you will get many different takes on whether this guy deserves a "bad" review. But your story, as written, is quite objective and allows the reader draw his own conclusions about the degree of culpability of this escort.

 

Why not just submit a review with exactly the same narrative as you have written here? Readers can decide for themselves then if they want to engage this man after this episode. Also, as has been mentioned countless times here, the escort's response is often very telling... and the site could get lucky and get one.

 

Seems to me there is a lot of information that could be provided by writing a review. So I would provide it, and leave the interpretation of it to the reader.

[Boston Guy]

>Here's the story, you decide how this young man should be

>treated as an unfortunate or as a no show.

>

 

Based on the information you provided, I'd say chalk it up to one of those things and move on. It's clear that he tried to reach you. From the information provided by the roommate, he left about the time you expected him to. He also made a good-faith effort to go to your hotel.

 

From his perspective, it's easy to see how he might get to a hotel and find out it doesn't have the right number of floors and think he's been sent on a wild goose chase; certainly most experienced escorts have had their share of crank calls, especially late at night. In that case, turning around and going home might be a reasonable thing to do.

 

If I were in your shoes, I'd have been frustrated, but not angry. We're all human and we make mistakes in giving and understanding directions. It's part of life and to be expected.

 

BG

[Boston Guy]

>Here's the story, you decide how this young man should be

>treated as an unfortunate or as a no show.

>

 

Based on the information you provided, I'd say chalk it up to one of those things and move on. It's clear that he tried to reach you. From the information provided by the roommate, he left about the time you expected him to. He also made a good-faith effort to go to your hotel.

 

From his perspective, it's easy to see how he might get to a hotel and find out it doesn't have the right number of floors and think he's been sent on a wild goose chase; certainly most experienced escorts have had their share of crank calls, especially late at night. In that case, turning around and going home might be a reasonable thing to do.

 

If I were in your shoes, I'd have been frustrated, but not angry. We're all human and we make mistakes in giving and understanding directions. It's part of life and to be expected.

 

BG

[Prime Muscle]

From an escort perspective - far too often potential customers are fake. I've had guys no-show for in-calls, show up several hours late, and even intentionally give me a fake address for out-calls. And there are legitimate customers who write down the information wrong, use the wrong time zone, get lost, etc.. Once a customer was coming to my hotel and got on the wrong set of elevators which did not go to my floor. To be fair, I must admit that I've also unknowingly given the wrong hotel (in this case there were 2 Marriott’s in the same block) and have accidentally given the wrong hotel room number – especially when using emails and I fat-finger the keys. Of course my mistakes were just that - mistakes -- and not intentional. My recommendation is you chalk this one up to experience (especially if the escort has legitimate reviews). I now go out of my way to make absolutely sure there is no confusion about the logistics.

[Prime Muscle]

From an escort perspective - far too often potential customers are fake. I've had guys no-show for in-calls, show up several hours late, and even intentionally give me a fake address for out-calls. And there are legitimate customers who write down the information wrong, use the wrong time zone, get lost, etc.. Once a customer was coming to my hotel and got on the wrong set of elevators which did not go to my floor. To be fair, I must admit that I've also unknowingly given the wrong hotel (in this case there were 2 Marriott’s in the same block) and have accidentally given the wrong hotel room number – especially when using emails and I fat-finger the keys. Of course my mistakes were just that - mistakes -- and not intentional. My recommendation is you chalk this one up to experience (especially if the escort has legitimate reviews). I now go out of my way to make absolutely sure there is no confusion about the logistics.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Unfortunate

 

As an escort who does about one third to one half of my business with clients on line, as you apparently did in this instance, I will tell you my experience is that Bobby is quite correct. You often spend a great deal of time (even on the telephone) with clients who are not legitimate, who are simply crank calls or who want to waste your time. On the other hand, there are also a number of instances where honest mistakes are made by either the escort or the client.

 

In this case, he made an effort to show, only at an incorrect address, so a "no show" review would not be appropriate for that reason alone. Also, based on my understanding of Hoo Boy's requirements for a NO SHOW review, you do not have the requisite documentation. You can, of course, write a negative review, although I given that it was not a no show and you had no real experience with this gentlemen, I am not sure what you would be reviewing, other than his level of preparedness or professionalism.

 

If we assume your facts are correct and that you did give him the correct information, which cannot be verified with an e-mail, for example, as it occurred in a telephone conversation, the worst that can be said about this escort is that he wrote the information down incorrectly and, because he did not have a working cell phone with him, he was not able to rectify the matter. Were I him, I would have made sure I double checked the information before hanging up and I would have been prepared to telephone you from a pay phone. Not doing this cost him the income he would have made and also "ruined" his evening as well.

 

You do not make clear if you were only in town or only available that night, but my solution if the same situation had happened to me and a prospective client, would have been to offer to make up the session with you the next day at either a reduced fee or with additional time, at your preference. If this was not possible, I think the fact that he acknowledged the mistake and apparently was not rude or unprofessional in his conversations, as well as the fact that he lost out on the income, makes this one of those "chalk it up" experiences for both of you.

[OneFinger]

>...Traveling on business and after reading a series of positive reviews here I spotted a young man (who will remain nameless for the moment) on line... I said why did you not call me?... if you could not find me why not call me?

 

Hope you don't mind the opinion of a client. I totally agree with Marc Anthony. Your original post was to-the-point, clear, concise and would provide excellent info.

 

I also feel a review is warranted since the guy is not a stranger to this site and has previous reviews.

 

IMHO you are totally warranted in expecting a phone call when he couldn't find you. From your account, it appears you made every possible attempt to keep in contact with him.

 

In another thread there was discussion concerning more honest reviews and not just the "over-the-top" or extremely poor reviews. This is one of those instances where a fair and honest review could be used to balance out his other reviews. Plus, he can always write a response to refute your allegations. (I often learn more about the escorts from their responses rather than their reviews.)

[+ deej]

>(I think pay phones still exists, don't they?!?!)

 

I wouldn't count on it. With the explosive proliferation of cell phones, pay phones are rapidly going the way of the 8-track tape. I suspect airports will have 'em for years to come but it's one of the few places they make any money, and the last few I saw didn't take coins.

 

There's even a company doing a booming business selling former pay phones that have been reconditioned for home use. (Sort of a kitschy art-deco home accessory, I guess.)

 

I'll agree with the guys who say exercise caution. I once told a guy I was at the Treasure Island in Vegas. When he called to confirm, the operator answered (as they do) "Treasure Island at the Mirage". He got confused and thought I was at the Mirage.

 

Mistakes happen.

 

He *should* have tried to contact you (and it sounds like he did, as soon as he could).

 

Should he have been more professional? Yeah. But I can remember a time in my life when _MY_ phone was cut off too. If he was stood up once already that evening, maybe he was just chalking you up to a learning experience. I've done THAT in my lifetime too.

 

Go ahead and post your review. Be absolutely honest (about both of your actions). No opinionating or posturing about pay phones. ;-)

[VaHawk]

">(I think pay phones still exists, don't they?!?!)

 

I wouldn't count on it. With the explosive proliferation of cell phones, pay phones are rapidly going the way of the 8-track tape. I suspect airports will have 'em for years to come but it's one of the few places they make any money, and the last few I saw didn't take coins."

 

Actually pay phones are still a multi-million dollar a year business, at least for Verizon, as that is the segment of the market that I currently work in for Verizon!

 

IMO, the disappearance of pay phones are in the far future, as to many people, especially lower income people, the pay phone is their lifeline to the outside world. Of course, they are disappearing, and there are certainly a lot fewer than before, but imo, they will still be around for a while.

[LovesYng]

>I wouldn't count on it. With the explosive proliferation of

>cell phones, pay phones are rapidly going the way of the

>8-track tape.

 

OMG deej, WHAT ARE 8-TRACK TAPES LoL }( and to think I still have a few around but no where to play them. I guess we are really showing our age now

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[VaHawk]

Why bother to post a review, as you have already given us the whole story, except for the escort's name? Obviously you WANT to post a no-show review, and name names, so just post your damn review already!, as you don't need to seek permission from the 1% of clients who hire and post here to the mc! Then again, I suppose in kind, that you are too weak minded and jellied kneed to hire anyone, without gaining raving endorsements from that same 1%!

 

If the escort's response to you, is as posted here, then just what is your problem? Sounded like a reasonable explanation to me, given the circumstances, especially considering that you called late at night, at the last minute, and the escort by all accounts strived his best to accomodate you! So your review will only reiterate what you state here, and the escort's response will once again, reiterate what has been posted here!

 

Sounds like the lucky one, in the long run, was the escort! Unless, you post your review, which I'm sure your ego will dictate that you do! But only after first, holding the escort up to anonymous trashing here on the mc! Then, being the angel you are, you will point out the identity of the subject of that anonymous trashing! YOU'RE A REAL WINNNER! :-(

[+ deej]

>Actually pay phones are still a multi-million dollar a year

>business, at least for Verizon, as that is the segment of the

>market that I currently work in for Verizon!

 

How nice for you! How much has your business unit shrunk over the last few years?

 

There are none in my neighborhood. I've looked (when I was moving in and didn't have my own phone yet and my out-of-town cell phone couldn't find a signal). I've looked *hard*.

 

Pay phones may be still a viable business unit but the day of a pay phone on every corner is long gone.

 

>IMO, the disappearance of pay phones are in the far future

 

I've predicted that about various technologies in the past and CLICK! they were gone.

[+ deej]

>OMG deej, WHAT ARE 8-TRACK TAPES LoL }( and to think I

>still have a few around but no where to play them. I guess we

>are really showing our age now

 

Oh, dude, I have better ways of showing my age. (Just count the rings! :9 )

 

Did you at least have an 8-track recorder, so you could copy from LP's to make your own mix tapes?

 

I did. (Well, OK, my Dad did.)

 

It was, like, cool man. LOL

[Funseeker 22]

>">(I think pay phones still exists, don't they ?

>

>IMO, the disappearance of pay phones are in the far future, as

>to many people, especially lower income people, the pay phone

>is their lifeline to the outside world. Of course, they are

>disappearing, and there are certainly a lot fewer than before,

>but imo, they will still be around for a while.

>

Except when you are in NYC and they are all "out of order" for blocks around and your cell phone has no service.

Had this happen to me many times.

[VaHawk]

>How nice for you! How much has your business unit shrunk over

>the last few years?

 

Don't know, as I've been working for this aspect of the business for only the last six months, but it certainly hasn't shrunk any since I've been working here!

>

>There are none in my neighborhood. I've looked (when I was

>moving in and didn't have my own phone yet and my out-of-town

>cell phone couldn't find a signal). I've looked *hard*.

 

There are a lot in my neighborhood, including 3 in the lobby of my high rise in Arlington, but I am referring to Verizon which was Bell Atlantic prior to the merge with GTE. They, in other words, are still quite prevalent on the East Coast, especially in the old MaBell locales!

 

>I've predicted that about various technologies in the past and

>CLICK! they were gone.

 

I don't dispute the pay phones ultimate demise, I just don't think it will be "just around the corner"!

[VaHawk]

LMAO! Se la vie!

[Troyster]

Well I read all the replies -- mostly inteligent and interesting. Surprised at how rude a few were.

 

I decided to mark it up to a miss and move on. I will be a more emphatic on the address next time but likely will not book this guy again.

 

By the by there are lots of pay phones in the area in question and he could have used the ones in the hotel lobby or the train station. I have used them and they are there.

 

Also he never made any offer of another meeting not to mention the time extension suggested by someone.

[KY_TOP]

Hope you don't mind a comment from a non-Escort.

 

I am commenting because the situation you discribe is unbelievably similar to a situation I had last summer, including the roommate answering the cellphone. In my case the roommate said he had actually driven the Escort to my Hotel. In my case the Escort said he saw someone in the Hotel lobby he recognized and he slipped out of the Hotel to avoid that person. I didn't hear from him for several hours after we were to meet and only after an e-mail from me and a few cell calls answered by the roommate. Wonder if it could be the same guy? In my case I just chalked it up to a learning experience and did not write a No-Show review. Since my experience the Escort has received mixed reviews.