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What do you think a client should expect from an escort who can't get it up? Especially if the client has expressly requested something (like being fucked) that can't take place without the escort getting hard?

 

Should the escort:

1. refuse payment

2. offer a discount

3. offer a later appointment at a reduced fee

4. none of the above

5. something else

 

I suspect the situation occurs fairly often, since humans are not automatons, and everyone has days when they're just not into it. It's happened to me twice. Once I suspected the guy was just worn out from an earlier client, and once when it was just a bad day. It's awkward for both. The client feels unattractive, and the escort feels embarrassed. Both times the escort assured me it wasn't me, but it was a downer anyway. I think some kind of restitution/deal should be offered when this happens (one of mine did), but I'd like to know what you guys think.

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What do you think a client should expect from an escort who can't get it up? Especially if the client has expressly requested something (like being fucked) that can't take place without the escort getting hard?

 

Should the escort:

1. refuse payment

2. offer a discount

3. offer a later appointment at a reduced fee

4. none of the above

5. something else

 

I suspect the situation occurs fairly often, since humans are not automatons, and everyone has days when they're just not into it. It's happened to me twice. Once I suspected the guy was just worn out from an earlier client, and once when it was just a bad day. It's awkward for both. The client feels unattractive, and the escort feels embarrassed. Both times the escort assured me it wasn't me, but it was a downer anyway. I think some kind of restitution/deal should be offered when this happens (one of mine did), but I'd like to know what you guys think.

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That's a good suggestion Ethan. Actually both times it's happened, we continued, I think, because the escort kept thinking it was going to happen. Eventually though it became self-defeating, he got nervous, I got nervous thinking I was supposed to help, and the mental thing just snowballed. You're right, if it happens again (I hope not), I'll suggest that. Thanks.

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That's a good suggestion Ethan. Actually both times it's happened, we continued, I think, because the escort kept thinking it was going to happen. Eventually though it became self-defeating, he got nervous, I got nervous thinking I was supposed to help, and the mental thing just snowballed. You're right, if it happens again (I hope not), I'll suggest that. Thanks.

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Once Again, It Depends

 

>What do you think a client should expect from an escort who

>can't get it up? Especially if the client has expressly

>requested something (like being fucked) that can't take place

>without the escort getting hard?

>

>Should the escort:

 

>1. refuse payment

 

If the only thing the client expect was to get topped for a full hour, then this presumably is the proper course. However, this is rarely the case; therefore onto to option 2 and 3 . . . .

 

>2. offer a discount

>3. offer a later appointment at a reduced fee

 

Assuming the full length of session took place and some interactive activity also took place, obviously some payment would be appropriate but, as an escort, I personally would also offer option 3.

 

However, in fairness to both parties, the client should feel comfortable voicing any concerns he might have and if the escort feels he might not be able to perform, he should be aware that he is better off cutting the session short and asking to reschedule at a mutually convenient time;

 

>4. none of the above

 

The situation should be acknowledged by both parties. As I indicate, it is difficult to know what an appropriate response would be without considering the causes, circumstances and how the two parties felt.

 

As with nearly all client/escort relationships, the two parties should discuss the situation and come up with a fair and reasonable solution that both parties would be comfortable with.

 

Finally, as has been pointed out in different and similar threads, particularly by clients, the escort/client relationship is for "time spent," and thus, by that criteria, said time spent should be recompensed. Therefore, if this is a crucial matter to the client, as some clients here have posted (and apparently communicate in advance), the client can always advise the escort of what he anticipates and that he expects this in return for the fees requested. If the escort has a problem with this request or thinks he might not be able to comply, he can then simply decline the client and the client can continue looking.

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Once Again, It Depends

 

>What do you think a client should expect from an escort who

>can't get it up? Especially if the client has expressly

>requested something (like being fucked) that can't take place

>without the escort getting hard?

>

>Should the escort:

 

>1. refuse payment

 

If the only thing the client expect was to get topped for a full hour, then this presumably is the proper course. However, this is rarely the case; therefore onto to option 2 and 3 . . . .

 

>2. offer a discount

>3. offer a later appointment at a reduced fee

 

Assuming the full length of session took place and some interactive activity also took place, obviously some payment would be appropriate but, as an escort, I personally would also offer option 3.

 

However, in fairness to both parties, the client should feel comfortable voicing any concerns he might have and if the escort feels he might not be able to perform, he should be aware that he is better off cutting the session short and asking to reschedule at a mutually convenient time;

 

>4. none of the above

 

The situation should be acknowledged by both parties. As I indicate, it is difficult to know what an appropriate response would be without considering the causes, circumstances and how the two parties felt.

 

As with nearly all client/escort relationships, the two parties should discuss the situation and come up with a fair and reasonable solution that both parties would be comfortable with.

 

Finally, as has been pointed out in different and similar threads, particularly by clients, the escort/client relationship is for "time spent," and thus, by that criteria, said time spent should be recompensed. Therefore, if this is a crucial matter to the client, as some clients here have posted (and apparently communicate in advance), the client can always advise the escort of what he anticipates and that he expects this in return for the fees requested. If the escort has a problem with this request or thinks he might not be able to comply, he can then simply decline the client and the client can continue looking.

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RE: Once Again, It Depends

 

I recently had this happen to me. As much as ui tried to stay hard for the client, it just wasn't happening. I apologized several times and said if he hired me again that I'd make it up to him. I did get him off and he seemed to have enjoyed himself inspte of the fact that my dick wasn't cooperating. I really don't know if there's anything more I could have done.

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RE: Once Again, It Depends

 

I recently had this happen to me. As much as ui tried to stay hard for the client, it just wasn't happening. I apologized several times and said if he hired me again that I'd make it up to him. I did get him off and he seemed to have enjoyed himself inspte of the fact that my dick wasn't cooperating. I really don't know if there's anything more I could have done.

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RE: Once Again, It Depends

 

OK - I don't know what sandbox you kids have been playing in - but here is my take on this situation - based on anecdotal and personal experience. Additionally, several conversations with 2 gay doctors not breaching client confidentiality (both in major urban centres and each friends with me for more than a decade) with large gay practices that have both expressed innocent almost boyish surprise at the number of young handsome men who have asked for repeat prescriptions for - OH YA - that funny little blue pill - VIAGRA.

Based on escorts I have tricked with in London, Berlin, New York, Vancouver, Chicago, Miami, LA and San Fran I would speculate that it is quite safe to say that between 1/3 to 1/2 of escorts over 25 who see clients daily are taking viagra - I have NOT been suprised to see it fall out of guys gym bags, etc. and when push comes to shove - it you ask nicely - you would be surprised how many blushingly confess to using V regularly - hardly - no pun intended - a surprise ??? I mean lets face it kids - if you had to get WOOD 2-3 times a day for the average client - I make NO appologies for having won any beauty contests in the past 30 years and know that my friends that hire regularly have not won any either, well - I think you would be popping this extradinary little gem as well. Ever wondered how that 33 year can keep it hard and fuck your brains out for 45 minutes and all this time you thought it was you charm - anyway that's the way I see it - am sure I will get a few nasty rebuttals ??? Cheers KIDS !

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RE: Once Again, It Depends

 

OK - I don't know what sandbox you kids have been playing in - but here is my take on this situation - based on anecdotal and personal experience. Additionally, several conversations with 2 gay doctors not breaching client confidentiality (both in major urban centres and each friends with me for more than a decade) with large gay practices that have both expressed innocent almost boyish surprise at the number of young handsome men who have asked for repeat prescriptions for - OH YA - that funny little blue pill - VIAGRA.

Based on escorts I have tricked with in London, Berlin, New York, Vancouver, Chicago, Miami, LA and San Fran I would speculate that it is quite safe to say that between 1/3 to 1/2 of escorts over 25 who see clients daily are taking viagra - I have NOT been suprised to see it fall out of guys gym bags, etc. and when push comes to shove - it you ask nicely - you would be surprised how many blushingly confess to using V regularly - hardly - no pun intended - a surprise ??? I mean lets face it kids - if you had to get WOOD 2-3 times a day for the average client - I make NO appologies for having won any beauty contests in the past 30 years and know that my friends that hire regularly have not won any either, well - I think you would be popping this extradinary little gem as well. Ever wondered how that 33 year can keep it hard and fuck your brains out for 45 minutes and all this time you thought it was you charm - anyway that's the way I see it - am sure I will get a few nasty rebuttals ??? Cheers KIDS !

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RE: Once Again, It Depends

 

Actually, I'm surprised to have encountered the problem only because it is so simple to pop a viagra. I just wondered why the escorts didn't use it. Maybe they haven't normally needed it. Some may not like the side effects like headaches.

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RE: Once Again, It Depends

 

Actually, I'm surprised to have encountered the problem only because it is so simple to pop a viagra. I just wondered why the escorts didn't use it. Maybe they haven't normally needed it. Some may not like the side effects like headaches.

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Better Living Through Chemicals

 

Anyone who takes seriously there own personal health would limit their intake of any "recreational" pharmaceutical such as an anabolic steroids, viagra or sleeping pills, to name just a few. There are some people for whom viagra does not work, who are on blood thinners or blood pressure medication (and thus viagra is contraindicated), or for whom the side effects, such as congestion, headaches, dizziness, etc., are more than I believe most people would be willing to undertake for short-term monetary gain.

 

This is not to say that escorts (as adult film actors and others who are not sex workers) do not occassionally need help or do not find themselves in situations where help might be warranted. Afterall, as some clients suggest here, we are only human.

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Better Living Through Chemicals

 

Anyone who takes seriously there own personal health would limit their intake of any "recreational" pharmaceutical such as an anabolic steroids, viagra or sleeping pills, to name just a few. There are some people for whom viagra does not work, who are on blood thinners or blood pressure medication (and thus viagra is contraindicated), or for whom the side effects, such as congestion, headaches, dizziness, etc., are more than I believe most people would be willing to undertake for short-term monetary gain.

 

This is not to say that escorts (as adult film actors and others who are not sex workers) do not occassionally need help or do not find themselves in situations where help might be warranted. Afterall, as some clients suggest here, we are only human.

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Getting and staying hard is about the only behavior that an escort cannot guarantee (without Viagra, which one should not automatically require of anyone). Some bottoms probably also cannot guarantee that they can take being pounded indefinitely. If the escort is doing his best to be accommmodating, I would never expect him to perform perfectly in order to earn his fee. He is not a machine to be returned or exchanged because of malfunction.

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Getting and staying hard is about the only behavior that an escort cannot guarantee (without Viagra, which one should not automatically require of anyone). Some bottoms probably also cannot guarantee that they can take being pounded indefinitely. If the escort is doing his best to be accommmodating, I would never expect him to perform perfectly in order to earn his fee. He is not a machine to be returned or exchanged because of malfunction.

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>If you agree to have a service performed in your home or on

>your car, and the people you've contracted try very hard but

>they can't perform the service, do you pay the full fee

>anyway?

 

My argument to this is, technically with escorting, you agree to pay for time only (generally at least), and anything that happens after that is between consenting adults. Granted, more is usually expected or even planned in advance, but because of this agreement, and because of the rather unique nature of escorting, at least I personally would pay the escort in full, especially if he did try. That's not to say I'd hire him again. That's also not to say I wouldn't greatly appreciate if he said "Hey - sorry - I can't seem to get into it tonight. Let me give you a discount or take a rain check." (And if he did, I'd certainly be much more likely to consider hiring him again).

 

Just my take on it. It happens, and I'd like to think even if an escort couldn't fully perform, as long as he had a good attitude, I could have a decent time with him.

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>If you agree to have a service performed in your home or on

>your car, and the people you've contracted try very hard but

>they can't perform the service, do you pay the full fee

>anyway?

 

My argument to this is, technically with escorting, you agree to pay for time only (generally at least), and anything that happens after that is between consenting adults. Granted, more is usually expected or even planned in advance, but because of this agreement, and because of the rather unique nature of escorting, at least I personally would pay the escort in full, especially if he did try. That's not to say I'd hire him again. That's also not to say I wouldn't greatly appreciate if he said "Hey - sorry - I can't seem to get into it tonight. Let me give you a discount or take a rain check." (And if he did, I'd certainly be much more likely to consider hiring him again).

 

Just my take on it. It happens, and I'd like to think even if an escort couldn't fully perform, as long as he had a good attitude, I could have a decent time with him.

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Well said, and I agree 100%! To me, to excuse a top escort's lack of getting it up and performing as contracted and then to recompense him in full for his failure to perform only encourages hustler behavior.

 

What do I mean by hustler behavior? Those who are "mainly tops" and who book multiple clients a day, knowing DAMN WELL that most of those clients are going to encounter the "limp dick experience", but who still expect to be paid in full.

 

A good escort, as some escorts on this thread have responded as such, will take a reduced fee or make other compensation.

 

And what is with the bs that the session is for "my time only". What a joke that is! How many of us would get fired if we showed up at work and didn't do our job, as after all the company is paying us just to show up. :(

 

Clients who are paying triple digits an hour for a 1 hour or 2 hour session are not paying for the pleasure of an escort's scintillating persona, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to phone home to Earth.

 

IMO, I bet all clients have encountered this situation, and I bet very few walked away without paying the full hourly fee.

 

This is the type of situation where Jim's $30 an inch suggestion would definitely be appropriate. A limp 4" cock would mean only a $120 fee, not a hard 8" cock fee of $240. ;(

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