what would you do?

[bluenix]

>I think they should reestablish such a board-access only

>granted by moderator given keyword.

>The boys should have somewhere privite to discuss amongst

>themselves without worry of being flamed by some of the more

>"difficult"creatures in here.

 

Been there, done that.

 

Phase One:

- A controlled access forum is established just as you describe.

 

Phase Two:

- Also just as you describe, "the boys" discuss amongst themselves the hoohaw and the beejaw.

 

Phase Three:

- Somebody says something that ticks off Somebody Else, so Somebody Else leaks to the main boards something unflattering Somebody said "in private" about a client.

 

Phase Four:

- Hubbub and, eventually, meltdown.

[Guest BenAJ]

I once had an potential client email me from Boston...he sounded very nice and sincere and we exchanged emails and he even called. We made the appointment and the day he was scheduled to arrive, I got a voicemail with the name & number of the hotel and his room #.

 

I called back immediately and ask for him (I only had his first name). The asked the person who answered if this was so and so... he said no. I thought ok I listened to the message incorrectly...so I relistened to it and the message was clear.

 

Well I only had his first name and he never gave me any other number (like a cell phone) to reach him.

 

i emailed him asking what happened. i got an email not apologizing or explaining what happened...all he said was he must have missed me and that was it.

 

Missed him.....? the person said no one by that name was there? I guess the guy was having fun at my expense.... I just shrugged it off. But it seems strange that someone would do this for fun.

 

Its kinda part of the business so you have to learn to prioritize. All the reconfirming won't necessarily help.

 

it a person wants to J**rk u around....it will happened...Just roll with the punches :-)

[Guest BenAJ]

I once had an potential client email me from Boston...he sounded very nice and sincere and we exchanged emails and he even called. We made the appointment and the day he was scheduled to arrive, I got a voicemail with the name & number of the hotel and his room #.

 

I called back immediately and ask for him (I only had his first name). The asked the person who answered if this was so and so... he said no. I thought ok I listened to the message incorrectly...so I relistened to it and the message was clear.

 

Well I only had his first name and he never gave me any other number (like a cell phone) to reach him.

 

i emailed him asking what happened. i got an email not apologizing or explaining what happened...all he said was he must have missed me and that was it.

 

Missed him.....? the person said no one by that name was there? I guess the guy was having fun at my expense.... I just shrugged it off. But it seems strange that someone would do this for fun.

 

Its kinda part of the business so you have to learn to prioritize. All the reconfirming won't necessarily help.

 

it a person wants to J**rk u around....it will happened...Just roll with the punches :-)

[theDCeBOY]

the email i did send to him, to which, of course, i have received no reply.

 

<<<

hi don... switching to even later tonight is no problem.

the only thing that does concern me is that you said your flight was delayed and you would call me when you get in, BUT you CALLED ME FROM THE JW MARRIOTT. that doesn't QUITE compute. i'm still up for meeting tonight, but please be honest from here on out. you can't have NOT arrived, but call me from the very hotel. caller-id is tricky that way. :-)

did you simply have second thoughts about meeting? find someone you'd rather entertain?

anything's okay... just let me know.

 

E T H A N

>>>

[theDCeBOY]

the email i did send to him, to which, of course, i have received no reply.

 

<<<

hi don... switching to even later tonight is no problem.

the only thing that does concern me is that you said your flight was delayed and you would call me when you get in, BUT you CALLED ME FROM THE JW MARRIOTT. that doesn't QUITE compute. i'm still up for meeting tonight, but please be honest from here on out. you can't have NOT arrived, but call me from the very hotel. caller-id is tricky that way. :-)

did you simply have second thoughts about meeting? find someone you'd rather entertain?

anything's okay... just let me know.

 

E T H A N

>>>

[Guest skrubber]

Perfect EMail, voicing your concerns but not coming right out and calling him a lying prick.

[Guest skrubber]

Perfect EMail, voicing your concerns but not coming right out and calling him a lying prick.

[VaHawk]

LOL! Of course you didn't receive a reply, and I don't think you were really expecting to receive one. I suppose the client could have been a jerk just "pulling your chain" or perhaps a newbie too afraid to follow thru and trying to work up enough nerve to do so and as such delaying the encounter. But after your email to him, he probably was too embarrassed at being caught in a perhaps "white lie", and as such found your words offensive and cowering and thus he was too afraid to reply. IMO, your words in the email, reflect that you had already decided to write him off as a client. Perhaps, he had the same interpretation, so why should he bother to reply?

[VaHawk]

LOL! Of course you didn't receive a reply, and I don't think you were really expecting to receive one. I suppose the client could have been a jerk just "pulling your chain" or perhaps a newbie too afraid to follow thru and trying to work up enough nerve to do so and as such delaying the encounter. But after your email to him, he probably was too embarrassed at being caught in a perhaps "white lie", and as such found your words offensive and cowering and thus he was too afraid to reply. IMO, your words in the email, reflect that you had already decided to write him off as a client. Perhaps, he had the same interpretation, so why should he bother to reply?

[gregkidman]

I am not an escort, but I am a skittish client. In danger of shooting myself in the foot and be shunned by all escorts, this is my scenario in two cases:

 

I call an escort, and I get nervous and become very eager to be accomodating to the escort that I am talking to (I know that this is an half-assed way of thinking) and I would suggest a time, hoping that the escort will turn it down and suggest another time. When the escort actually agrees to the time I suggested and we hang up. It takes a few minutes to digest what I have just done -- that I just asked a hot escort to spend time with me! I then get scared. Normally, I shore up some courage, and piously call back to cancel. If I don't have enough courage, I don't call or show up.

 

Now, if I get a feeling that the escort is still willing to talk to me, I can be coaxed (especially if the escort say 'talk to me, I have time...' or something to that effect) to relax and set up an appointment. I then follow through.

 

 

Just to keep it in perspective: I have done this twice where I was a no show. In both times, I have called after the appointment has passed to apologize.

 

In other appointments that I have made, I have followed through and had a great time or that I have called to cancel 24 hours ahead of the appointment.

 

So, there can be clients who are just really, really nervous and think to themselves 'HOLY COW! I have actually set up a time to be with a man of my dreams or to fulfill a fantasy. No, wait... this is crazy..'

 

One poster got it right -- just roll with the punches. Escorts, when they have a new client on the phone, should not sound rushed on the phone and sound relaxed so that the client feels 'safe'.

 

Just my two bits of thoughts...

 

Cheers,

Greg

[gregkidman]

I am not an escort, but I am a skittish client. In danger of shooting myself in the foot and be shunned by all escorts, this is my scenario in two cases:

 

I call an escort, and I get nervous and become very eager to be accomodating to the escort that I am talking to (I know that this is an half-assed way of thinking) and I would suggest a time, hoping that the escort will turn it down and suggest another time. When the escort actually agrees to the time I suggested and we hang up. It takes a few minutes to digest what I have just done -- that I just asked a hot escort to spend time with me! I then get scared. Normally, I shore up some courage, and piously call back to cancel. If I don't have enough courage, I don't call or show up.

 

Now, if I get a feeling that the escort is still willing to talk to me, I can be coaxed (especially if the escort say 'talk to me, I have time...' or something to that effect) to relax and set up an appointment. I then follow through.

 

 

Just to keep it in perspective: I have done this twice where I was a no show. In both times, I have called after the appointment has passed to apologize.

 

In other appointments that I have made, I have followed through and had a great time or that I have called to cancel 24 hours ahead of the appointment.

 

So, there can be clients who are just really, really nervous and think to themselves 'HOLY COW! I have actually set up a time to be with a man of my dreams or to fulfill a fantasy. No, wait... this is crazy..'

 

One poster got it right -- just roll with the punches. Escorts, when they have a new client on the phone, should not sound rushed on the phone and sound relaxed so that the client feels 'safe'.

 

Just my two bits of thoughts...

 

Cheers,

Greg

[nate_sf]

It’s possible that he was having fun at your expense, but I think what’s entirely possible was that he was trying to set up a cancellation but was too afraid to straight out cancel. He may have hoped you’d either let him back out of the appointment, or he’d call you later, saying the flight was so late he wouldn’t be able to make the appointment after all.

 

As some of the posters here have mentioned, he could have gotten cold feet and regretted making the appointment, or maybe a time conflict came up (if he was travelling on business, he may have been forced into a business engagement he wasn’t expecting). At worst, he may have double-booked, which would have been pretty lousy but, unfortunately, happens.

 

There are all kinds of reasons people tell white lies, but when things like this happen, (and they’re not that unusual), all the signals are there that the appointment is going to fall through and you’re wise to start making alternative plans. He may have been deceiving you, but may have also been trying to save face over having to cancel at the lat minute. In my experience this kind of thing happens particularly with visitors travelling in from out of town and staying in hotels, which of course isn’t to say this will always happen, but the likelihood is definitely higher than local appointments. The reasons for it could be any number of things. Unfortunately it’s part of doing business, and isn’t worth getting too upset over.

[+ Charlie]

It sounds like it started with a serious desire on his part for an appointment that night, but for some reason he had changed his mind by the time he got to DC, and wanted to find a socially acceptable way of getting out of it, thus the lie about the flight. Under the crcumstances, I wouldn't expect him to show up for a second appointment, either. By letting him know that you were aware he was lying, you lost any chance of just being paid for the missed appointment, if he felt guilty enough (I wouldn't have looked for that check in the mail, though); however, the emotional satisfaction of letting him know you had caught him in a lie was probably worth the aggravation and potential loss of money.

[theDCeBOY]

yeah, i suppose i got some satisfaction from making sure he knew what a freaking moron he was for not at least considering caller ID in his lying scheme.

[Tristan Waters]

RE: If, When, Where, How and Why

 

I use to have a few problems such as this. After bring stood up a few times, I starting requiring a 25% nonrefundable deposit for anything more than an overnight period.

[Troyster]

So did "Don" reply to your email? Did you ever hear from him again? I might have missed it but I did not see anything.

 

I agree with the others that he either a) got cold feet and was too nice/nervous/stupid to say so or b) he found what he felt was a better option/match and decided to blow you off. c) he got arrested d) he got picked up in the men's room e) he saw the GIANT portrait of JW Marriott inside the door of the hotel and found religion, went celebate or back to the wife and kiddies.

 

Write him off as a flake, block or ignore his future messages and go on to the next one.

 

Thanks for sharing.

[theDCeBOY]

never heard from him. some folks on the escorts only escortmale forum (escortmale.net) mentioned similar issues with someone from chicago, so i guess he has a habit of doing such things.

[Guest kenk0267]

From a clients perspective, it sounds like he was running late, didnt think about caller id, but still wanted to get together later that night, and used flight delay as a convenient excuse. If he was a real AH, he would not have ever called you and left you hanging. He still wanted to get together later that evening seemed sincere so if your schedule permitted I think chances are you still would have had a successful and perhaps enjoyable booking.

[Guest skrubber]

As a client I must say that I have never cnaelled an appointment or been a no-show. I feel it is only a matter of respect and not wishing to waste the good escorts time that I go above call to make the appointment (besides missing a good time with a hot escort is incomprehenible to me). This guy should be written off as a lying, worthless prick in my opinion. Even if he got nervous or had second thoughts he should have been upfront and honest about the situation. Who makes an appointment for cock and then does this shit?

 

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