::Names and Real Names of Escorts::

[Guest Yog-Sothoth]

I read in different threads in the Message Center where one person said that of course everyone knew escorts don't use their real names and another person said he had known an escort for a long time and knew his real name.

 

So, maybe I just don't have the paranoid nature, but if as an escort you are going just by your first name in escorting, why don't you use your real first name?

 

It is a signal thing, so that if they get a phone call asking for "Samuel" but your real name is "Ralph", you know it is a client.

 

As a client, I use my real name with a escort. In fact, they might as well know my full name as it is part of my email address. (Someone metioned in another thread about escort's selling clients' email addresses that one should create one with Yahoo or such. This never occured to me. My email address and my name is so all over the web now through Usenet and my involvement in various activities which turn up in Google searches that it never dawns on me to worry about it at this part.)

 

(I was getting up to 40 or so spam messages a day, with maybe 3-4 real personal messages, until I got a great spam filter that kills about 97%+ of the incoming spam.)

 

Actually, I think I would feel really uncomfortable knowing the escort I was with wasn't at least telling me his real first name. It seems I better not ask.

 

How do you as an escort pick an "escort name"? Why did you choose a particular name?

 

Do you feel comfortable with someone in the heat of passion yelling "Fuck me, Sam" when their name is "Ralph"? Or during really intense kissing (you take a pause for a breath)?

 

When or why would you tell a client your real name?

 

Am I to trusting? Should I be giving an escort a fake name for myself?

[marc anthony]

>I read in different threads in the Message Center where one

>person said that of course everyone knew escorts don't use

>their real names and another person said he had known an

>escort for a long time and knew his real name.

>

 

Most escorts that I know do not use their real name, including not their real first name. Maybe it is to keep their personal contacts straight (if someone calls you by your escort name, you know exactly why you know them).

 

But I think I know the real name of pretty much every escort I have hired. In many cases, it is because we travel... and of course I need their real name to make a plane ticket. But in other cases, once you have repeat business with an escort, and you develop some kind of relationship, the ones I know seem to prefer being called by their real name. I can only think of one boy who told me he preferred that I call him by his escort name even after he told me his real name.

 

Ultimately, it is their choice what they want to be called, and how much information they choose to divulge to you. It doesn't really matter to me (except in travel situations of course), so long as when I call whatever name they want to be called by, they respond with a smile and a kiss!

 

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Real Life - Only Better Lit

 

To answer your question: part of the escort experience is a fantasy, thus the escort plays a role which may differ from his personal life. In my own case, as I have discussed before, di Santis is a family name and Franco is the name of the man who might have been my great uncle but for an accident at sea.

 

Much information on your question can be found here:

 

http://babydb.male4malescorts.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3213&mesg_id=3213&listing_type=search

[Guest Merlin]

At the risk of stating the obvious, both clients and escorts (and porn stars) use false names in part for security purposes. Escorts and porn stars need to be concerned about possible stalkers. And most have a private life which they prefer to keep separate from their professional life. Most have parents, other relatives and old friends whom they prefer not to know. For many of the same reasons, clients often wish to keep their two lives separate. Both need to have some concern for the illegality of the activity. A false name will not of course prevent a prosecution, but it may impede tracing and preserve some small element of deniability. I usually use a false name at the begining but give my real name the second meeting or so, simply because I lose my concern and prefer simplicity. I think there is often an element of fantasy involved. A person chosing a false name will choose one which to him sounds sexy, masculine, boyish, cute or however he wants others to see him.

[Guest VanBCGuy]

Spam Filter

 

>(I was getting up to 40 or so spam messages a day, with maybe

>3-4 real personal messages, until I got a great spam filter

>that kills about 97%+ of the incoming spam.)

>

 

I'd sure like to know what spam filter this is.....

[ted]

It varies with each individual escort. The client has to know the escorts real name if they travel together, otherwise its a moot point. I always use my real name-usually just a first name until I get to know them. I have three(actually 4) email addresses. One for escort activities, one for friends and family, one for spam-if any site asks for an email address thats the one I give. It can get 40 emails a day but they are all junk mail so they just get deleted-and one at work. A lot of escorts do use their real first names, a version of their real first names, or sometimes their middle names as their first names. Sometimes its completely made up. Most times I continue to use their escort names in escort situations unless they ask me otherwise. One guy, since retired, volunteered his real name probably at our second or third meeting, and was then put out if I didn't use his real name. Since I met him originally as X I always have to make a conscious effort to call him Y. I've been seeing one guy for three or four years, maybe three times a year, and I really don't have a clue if the name I call him is real or not. Bottom line is knowing the real name may foster a feeling of intimacy between the escort and client, but really has very little impact on the relationship which is ultimately a business transaction.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

Hello Yog-Sothoth,

 

>So, maybe I just don't have the paranoid nature, but if as an

>escort you are going just by your first name in escorting, why

>don't you use your real first name?

 

I am not an escort. However, I think most don't use their real names because this isn't real. It is possible to get to know escorts on a personal level. There are 2 that I talk with from time to time, they know my name and I know their real name, and things are cool.

 

As a "John" I rarely give my real name. Like an escort, I want privacy and the ability to keep my worlds separated. I have an e-mail address that I use for work and family only and I have several others that I use for adult areas on the net, sites like this, etc.

 

Some people may say that I am not being real. Well, I am not at the point in my life where I will be the majorette in a pride parade any time soon. My profession, right now, pretty much dictates to me to keep it all separated and have a few aliases. Since I love what I do with a passion I don't plan to blur the lines.

 

Many escorts are in college, have families, etc. and they want to keep things separated as well. Hence the multiple names and multiple cell phone accounts.

 

As far as your spam and email issues you should get Yahoo or Hotmail addresses - they are free and when I get mail I know why I am getting it. Since I am listed on m4m only as VDN I know why I was getting the crap mail I was ... because someone went through the m4m directory and took all of the email addresses.

 

Peace and safe cruising and surfing.

Ken, I mean Larry, I mean Sue, I mean Jacob

}(

VDN

[+ deej]

RE: Spam Filter

 

>I'd sure like to know what spam filter this is.....

 

I've used two: McAffee's SpamKiller, and currently using MailWasher Pro.

 

Both proved very successful. Both need a little "training" when you get started but over time they become highly accurate. (Note: these sorts of filters generally won't work with AOL or HotMail. It has to be a POP3 mail account.) The McAffee product has the benefit of being tightly integrated with their virus protection so if you're already using that it's a natural choice.

 

If you use a POP client for yahoo mail, there's a configuration setting in Yahoo to turn off having the "bulk mail" folder downloaded automatically. That shuts off an amazing amount of spam, but unlike with the other products you don't get the chance to override the program that moves stuff to the bulk mail folder. (You can always go to the Yahoo web interface to review it. It gets deleted after 30 days.)

 

SPAM is such a big problem right now the market for spam filters is EXPLODING. There are many programs available, and they all do pretty much the same thing. Choose the one that best fits your environment.

[Guest Yog-Sothoth]

RE: Spam Filter

 

>>(I was getting up to 40 or so spam messages a day, with maybe

>>3-4 real personal messages, until I got a great spam filter

>>that kills about 97%+ of the incoming spam.)

>

>I'd sure like to know what spam filter this is.....

 

 

I suspected someone would ask this:

 

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Note this is freeware, no charge for it! You can donate money. You can also pay an under $5 fee for 2-months for tech service, which I did to give them some money, but the thing is damn easy to set-up.

 

It does only work on POP3 email though, not AOL and such. Most such email email services have spam filters of their own.

 

What this software does is run your email through an internet site elsewhere that marks the spam as spam. It still gets sent to you, but it all get dumped in a SPAM folder you create. You do have to empty the folder now and then, to get rid of it, but it does allow you to check the emails and see part of the text so you can see if it is actually spam or a real message you would want to read.

 

Even though your email is going through another site, I don't really think there is much need for privacy concerns. Heck, the way the internet operates is to send your email through who knows how many different servers to the addressee. It could go fairly directly or take it's way in the opposite direction around the world.

 

I really like it a LOT. I learned of it through posts on the Usenet gay newsgroup soc.motss. Some other people who I have suggested it to really like it as well.

 

It doesn't catch everything, but it damn well catches almost everything.

[chrismac]

I can completely understand the use of pseudo-names by escorts or clients for all the reasons elaborated above. What I can't understand is when an escort advertises by a title (i.e., Totally Huge, Big Top, Manpussy, whatever). I don't like calling or emailing someone and having to say or write, "Hello Mr. Huge, I'm calling to enquire about..." It's silly. At least make up a real name.

 

Some of the escorts I've met have told me their real names, others have not. I don't mind at all either way, unless I'm required to give my real name, as in the case of one gent who required that he be able to contact me at my hotel room for our first meeting, which necessitated him knowing my real name for the hotel operator to connect him to my room. That set things off a bit unbalanced, and to this day I still don't know HIS real name. It wouldn't have mattered, like I said, if it was a choice on both our ends.

[VaHawk]

Am I the only one having a difficult time relating this post of yours to your previous post about not having sex for years, having previously hired 2 escorts only (neither of which went well) and seeking advice on an escort to hire?

[Guest Yog-Sothoth]

>Am I the only one having a difficult time relating this post

>of yours to your previous post about not having sex for years,

>having previously hired 2 escorts only (neither of which went

>well) and seeking advice on an escort to hire?

 

 

I certainly don't understand your problem. I do not see any conflict between my two posts.

 

A big part of having a sexual experience for me is being able to trust another man. I use my real first name, sometimes my full name, once I've gotten past the very basic first contacts with an escort. I am who I am.

 

I understand the reasoning and usefulness for an escort of not using their own name.

 

There is the idea in magic that "Names are power". That one would have a public name, which one used in everday life, and one would have a True Name, which one only share with a very few people, because it allowed one to have magic performed on you.

 

However, it personally makes me uncomfortable to know the person I might have sex with someone who likely is not telling me even their real first name.

 

I am a very open person. I am a very empathic person. If I don't feel I know a person to some extend, I have a very hard time relating to them other than in an impersonal manner. Sex for me is personal.

 

This has always been a difficulty in my life. I enjoy sex but I was not comfortable with one-night stands. I wanted to date some before sleeping with someone. And I almost always run into a problem with the fact that as I as a gay man I am not "hot", but I am "very warm". All too often in my life, men I were attracted to did not see me as a possible sexual partner. They did however want to be "really good friends" with me.

 

I am planning on setting up a meeting with an escort sometime in a month and a half or so. (I cannot do it now because of money issues). However, I am going to ask for our first meeting we just talk. I don't intend to ask detailed questions about the escort's life (nor if the name they gave me is their real name.) If he ask me anything, I will answer honestly or tell him I would prefer not to discuss it, rather than tell something false.

 

I feel this might be the best thing for me to do, rather then just jumping into sex, which is what I think was part of the problem with my other times with those two escorts. I want to, I need to, feel comfortable with an escort.

 

I don't need him to be my buddy or my friend, but I need to feel I can at least trust him more than a stranger on the street -- and also feel he trusts me some.

 

Of course I plan to pay the escort's hourly fee for this meeting. If it goes okay, I will set-up another meeting for something more serious. If I feel somewhat comfortable, I will set up another meeting to talk more or go for a coffee, if he is willing. If I don't feel comfortable with him at all, I will thank him for his time, tell him it didn't work for me, and say good-bye.

 

Maybe this won't work. Maybe my experience with this escort will be as lousy as those others three years ago. But I do so miss being able to hold someone close physically and for him to hold me, to be able to give him pleasure sexually and him to me.

 

Maybe escorts simply won't work for me. Maybe what they can offer won't click with me. I realize this. But I want to at least try.

[Guest master12361]

Hi well I know that escorts use many names i know of one escort that uses 5 names on sites when he dancors. i know his real name becouse i took care of him for 9 months. But its not all escorts just some use so they say that they know what site you found them on and when they dance its anther name. becouse i think most that have so many names are striaght, or bi and dont do much.so thats what i know about escorts real names. I did have orthers escorts that i seen on a lot of sites that use the same name they i trust more. But that is me

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[HooBoy]

The "deleted" posts #13, 14 and "no number" were simply duplications.

[Trixie]

Yog-Sothoth,

I think that the plan to meet an escort as delineated in your above post is a very wise one, if it makes sense to you. You must take this sort of thing at your own speed, and the escort in question should have no qualms about meeting with you, even just to talk, as long as you are paying for his time. Just make sure the boy (or man) understands what your time-line is, otherwise he may think he hasn't pleased you, if you don't plan to jump his bones on the first evening. In other words, if you need more time to show your desire, let him know what you are thinking. It's fair and honest, and prevents any bad feelings.

I don't think that you need worry about escorts not telling their real names. It's unlikely that escorts use false names for magical purposes... more likely, they are concerned with the social aspects of keeping their identity hidden. But, you can learn alot from the names escorts choose. If an escort uses the name "Rod" or "Dick", one can only assume he thinks highly of his penis.

With a name such as "Sebastian", knowing it's history, you can assume this escort wants to be adulated. An "Armando" wants nothing more than to let you know he's latin. Which means he'll be passionate, whether top or bottom.

Names do tell a number, no doubt about it.

But chances are you needn't be worried about the name an escort has chosen for himself.

It tells you about him, to a point. But it's highly unlikely that there are many escorts using assumed names for magical purposes.

So, enjoy!!!

La Belle Trixie

[VaHawk]

>If an escort

>uses the name "Rod" or "Dick", one can only assume he thinks

>highly of his penis.

 

I LOVE this. Is it really true? If so, I want to get together with an escort named AXL, AXLE OR AXEL. I would assume that it means I would get a steel hard rod that connects my ears together and the harder the drive the faster the ears would spin! SMOKING!

[raife]

RE: Spam Filter

 

I use SAproxy too, it doesn't really send your mail to another site to check whether it's spam or not, it just uses the "blacklists" (known spam addresses) from those sites (RBL or "recommended block lists") to validate that your mail isn't from known spammers.

 

That isn't even the best part, you can turn that function (the Internet RBL check) on or off, the best two features are that it checks all mail with dozens of rules that typefy spam, here's an example from my spam folder:

 

[blockquote]

X-Spam-Report: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been attached

along with this report, so you can recognize or block similar unwanted

mail in future. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.

Content preview: Increase Your Breasts!! NATURAL BREAST ENLARGEMENT PILLS! GAIN 3 CUP SIZES IN A MATTER OF WEEKS! [...]

Content analysis details: (20.00 points, 4 required)

BANG_GUARANTEE (0.0 points) BODY: Something is emphatically guaranteed

PENIS_ENLARGE (1.5 points) BODY: Information on getting a larger penis or breasts

PENIS_ENLARGE2 (0.5 points) BODY: Information on getting a larger penis or breasts (2)

BAYES_90 (4.0 points) BODY: Bayesian classifier says spam probability is 90 to 99%

[score: 0.9777]

LINES_OF_YELLING_2 (0.0 points) BODY: 2 WHOLE LINES OF YELLING DETECTED

LINES_OF_YELLING_3 (0.0 points) BODY: 3 WHOLE LINES OF YELLING DETECTED

HTML_TAG_BALANCE_FONT (0.0 points) BODY: HTML has excess "font" close tags

HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED (0.1 points) BODY: HTML font color is red

HTML_50_60 (0.5 points) BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML

HTML_MESSAGE (0.0 points) BODY: HTML included in message

HTML_FONT_BIG (0.4 points) BODY: FONT Size +2 and up or 3 and up

LINES_OF_YELLING (0.0 points) BODY: A WHOLE LINE OF YELLING DETECTED

HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE (0.1 points) BODY: HTML font color is blue

MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET (0.0 points) RAW: Message text in HTML without specified charset

REMOVE_PAGE (0.7 points) URI: URL of page called "remove"

DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12 (1.5 points) Date: is 6 to 12 hours after Received: date

SEMIFORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD (2.7 points) hotmail.com 'From' address, but no 'Received:'

MIME_HTML_ONLY (1.0 points) Message only has text/html MIME parts

MISSING_MIMEOLE (0.2 points) Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE

UPPERCASE_25_50 (2.5 points) message body is 25-50% uppercase

FORGED_MUA_AOL (4.3 points) Forged mail pretending to be from AOL

MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME (0.0 points) Message looks like Outlook, but isn't

X-Spam-Flag: YES

[/blockquote]

 

The other great feature is a "bayesian filter" which you need to feed a representative sample of "spam" and "ham" (non-spam) then it "learns" which words and phrases are used in your normal mail and scores as spam accordingly. You pick your threshold score (4 for me) than anything above that gets dropped in the spam-bucket.

 

Yea, it's a little on the techie side to set it up, but my spam has gone from 300-500/per day (unusable!) to 1-4/per day (and those they've obviously 'tuned' to sneak through most filters and are actually fun to dissect how they did it...)

 

YMMV (your mileage may vary)

have fun!

[Trixie]

Big wheels keep on turnin',

Proud Mary keeps on burnin',

Rollin', rollin', rollin' off the matress.

(I'm thinkin' more Tina Turner than CCR) Trix