ESCORTS! What would you do if you didn't get paid?

[Guest BlowRim]

I'm sure this has been asked before but I am just curious.

 

If you had a appointment with a client and then afterwards they client refused to pay you and threw you out or told you to go what would you do? What COULD you do?

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

First: This sounds like an "Ask The Escort" forum question.

 

Second: What is the up-side for an escort to answer this question? Reminds me of "Have you stopped beating your wife?" One type of answer may generate unnecssary anxiety on the part of future clients who have no intention of stiffing (in a bad way) an escort. Another type of answer might just encourage low-lifes to act out there miserable personality.

 

Third: who would be interested in knowing unless...

 

:-(

[Guest jeffOH]

I've had this happen only once in nearly 11 years of escorting. The client was drunk and after 45 mins. of intense action, he gets up, goes to the bathroom and starts getting dressed. He started to head towards the door and I told him that we needed to take care of business. He said that he thought he didn't have to pay if he didn't get off, which wasn't my fault because he was the one who ended the session. I felt like he had tried this scam before and I blocked the door and told him that he was not leaving until he paid me. He started to get his billfold out, I grabbed it and all he had was $50.

He obviously had no intention of paying me at all. I took his $50, told him to get the fuck out and never call me again.

 

Fortunately, this has been the one and only time this has happened.

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[SmallTownJohn]

Hey there,

 

It's only happened to me once a looong time ago. That's why I stress with first time clients that they just put any fees in an envelope or place it on a table in sight because I never touch payments until the session is over.(It really makes the experience go more smoothly with less cat-n-mouse) If they find that insulting...please choose someone else cos there are tons of brain dead, party scorts out in the world looking for quick fix cash.

 

I need my mid afternoon Mtn. Dew then I'll be all cheery again:0)

 

 

LOL,

 

John

http://www.SmallTownJohn1.com

[Bilbo]

I used to have an unfortunately regular client who would always come at bar closing time without counting his money first and would always be short. I finally caught him once with more money in his pocket than he owed me and confiscated the rest of it, which didn't repay all that he owed me on his tab. Since then he hasn't been calling at all. Pity, I suppose.

 

But my favorite story on this subject is from back when my massage apartment was a second floor garage apartment which had to be approached through a back yard with a locked gate. My landlords lived in front and had some wonderfully behaved, really nice, large, light brown dogs. As I was leading one departing client down the stairs, one of the dogs was lying across it and had to be stepped over. Just before we got to the dog, the client told me that he wasn't paying me because I had obviously enjoyed myself as much as he had. (Isn't that part of the job?) I stopped when he had just started to step over the dog. He was stranded with one foot on one side and one foot on the other when I quite honestly said, "That's a pit bull, by the way. And right now he thinks you're a friend." I got my full pay that time.

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

Kick his ass}>

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>First: This sounds like an "Ask The Escort" forum question.

 

And that is exactly where he posted it!

Having a blond moment, dear? :-)

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>I'm sure this has been asked before but I am just curious.

>

>If you had a appointment with a client and then afterwards

>they client refused to pay you and threw you out or told you

>to go what would you do? What COULD you do?

 

Well, we all know what Kip O'Brien would do, don't we?

 

Thunderbuns

[marc anthony]

>I used to have an unfortunately regular client who would

>always come at bar closing time without counting his money

>first and would always be short. I finally caught him once

>with more money in his pocket than he owed me and

>confiscated the rest of it, which didn't repay all that he

>owed me on his tab. Since then he hasn't been calling at

>all. Pity, I suppose.

>

 

Being a client who tries to empathize with the escort, I understand completely what you did here. But Kip O'Brian was sent through the ringer on another thread on this board for doing essentially the same thing. But because he is a little more emotional than you, and clearly not as effective a writer, he was labeled a sociopath, ostracized like a pariah, and name-called many other less than complimentary things. I still think the poor kid got a bum rap by the judgemental ones on this board, and wonder if they think that your actions are any different just because you can express yourself with more clarity. Just to make myself clear, by the way, I completely understand your actions AND Kip's actions. Maybe you could give him some "spin" lessons, though!

[Bilbo]

One difference perhaps is that I am better known here. I would dare to say that my postings were here to greet over half of the commentators on this board when they first joined our happy band. You forgive someone you know easier than a relative stranger. (and some of them have seen me hold my own in dialogues with some of the occaisionally sharper tongued brothers)

 

And, while I'm sorry that I don't remember exactly which market niche he appeals to, it is probably broader than mine. (So there are more people who feel like they might actually hire him, and therefore have more of a stake in it when he seems to disappoint them, for one thing.) Not only am I a Daddy Bear, but I also specialize, most of the time, in being a leather top. I would bet (and obviously have, simply by speaking so openly) that a Leather Master is living up to expectations when he does and says things that a Twink couldn't get away with.

 

It is also known that I make it a point of being good with beginning leather boys. In fact, I offer an interactive one day course in leather for absolute beginners. If some of the guys around here are inclined to take offense at anything I might say, perhaps they then daydream about what it might be like if they were to say anything about it to an even heavier leather man, say, Reese Rothmeier. Or me, on a game day with an experienced partner.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>>I used to have an unfortunately regular client who would

>>always come at bar closing time without counting his money

>>first and would always be short. I finally caught him once

>>with more money in his pocket than he owed me and

>>confiscated the rest of it, which didn't repay all that he

>>owed me on his tab. Since then he hasn't been calling at

>>all. Pity, I suppose.

 

The one HUGE differance here - which you conveniently chose to ignore - is that Bilbo didn't threaten to out him to his family. And that in my opinion is the chief reason that Kip has been roasted (and rightly so)

 

Thunderbuns

[+ Lucky]

Small Time,where are all these brain dead party scorts? What was your intention in making a statement like that?

[marc anthony]

>The one HUGE differance here - which you conveniently chose

>to ignore - is that Bilbo didn't threaten to out him to his

>family. And that in my opinion is the chief reason that Kip

>has been roasted (and rightly so)

>

Kip did NOT out anyone, and apologized for saying the thought crossed his mind. He even said, "Those who know me would know I would never hurt a fly, and would never do anything like that. I was just so upset." That apology has been ignored by everyone also. And Bilbo did not have a client write a very nasty review about him as Kip initially thought was done with him. Again, I ask you... can you put yourself in the escort's shoes?

[Guest TomBuStone]

Hello

 

Its happened to me a few times early on, despite the fact that I feel that I am a very good judge of character.

 

The damning part is that the guys that try this crap are usually very nice and quite disarming in addition to being well-to-do.

(Perhaps they became so wealthy by using Enron type tactics in all their affairs..)

 

What I do now is that I advise the prospective client over the phone that I have a '5 minute policy' regarding my fee.

I offer a 5 minute period of time for myself and the client to get acquainted at the beginning of our session and see if the vibe is right. If we both feel that we wish to proceed, I ask that the client demonstrate that he has payment, count it out and put it off to the side whereupon I would collect it at the end of our session.

 

This has worked very well for me ever since with very few exceptions.

 

It also eliminates that feeling of awkwardness that some clients get about paying for the session after such a good time was had, shattering that nice warm glow they just had a moment earlier.

 

Another variation on the theme is that I have learned that I need to watch out for some repeat clients who become too attached. I've had it happen where some guys have actually said 'well, I've seen you so often now.. its almost like we're boyfriends.. do you really mean to charge me EVERY time?' (I'm not making this up)

 

The 5 minute policy again usually saves the day, adding a statement like 'it just keeps everybody friends'..

 

Finally, I have one very regular client who only calls me when he is under the influence and never keeps cash in the house. His game is that he likes to pay by check, and then the checks bounce. Having my own business allows me to accept checks to my company dba name. Having a good relationship with my banker and a knowledge of punishing collection tactics helped keep him in line.

 

It has almost become a game with him by this point, and because I have bothered to go the extra mile, I have made significant income over time from this one client. Whenever he gets too cranky, I threaten to cut him off. I cut him off once for a few months. The subsequent groveling, pleading phone calls were very gratifying to listen to. Turns out that that extremely well endowed, handsome, masculine top men are not easy to come by. (Who knew..)

 

I have not had a problem since.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Tom BuStone

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TomBuStoneXXX@aol.com <--- email

http://www.meetlocalmen.com/mlm/tombustonexxx.html <-- temp webpage

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>>First: This sounds like an "Ask The Escort" forum question.

>

>And that is exactly where he posted it!

>Having a blond moment, dear? :-)

>

In the extreme it would appear... :-(

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>>>First: This sounds like an "Ask The Escort" forum question.

>>

>>And that is exactly where he posted it!

>>Having a blond moment, dear? :-)

>>

>In the extreme it would appear... :-(

 

Not to worry - it happens in the best of families ;-)

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>Turns out that that extremely well endowed,

>handsome, masculine top men are not easy to come by. (Who

>knew..)

 

You forgot to add "modest"

 

Thunderbuns

[duke37]

>>Turns out that that extremely well endowed,

>>handsome, masculine top men are not easy to come by. (Who

>>knew..)

>

>You forgot to add "modest"

>

>Thunderbuns

 

Is modesty something you really want in a extremely well endowed,handsome,masculine top man? Me neither.

 

Jeff

[Guest Stephan-Lacoste]

It only happened once when the guy did not want to pay at all.

SO I said " fine with me" I got his sony laptop on his desk and start to leave and he knew I was not joking....

I usually don't get problems , I'm not small , neither skinny , I do have lots of martial art behind me and I know how to react with Idiots and those kinds of peoples...... but I never had to ask for it except that time.....

Now if you really can't get it and there is nothing around , well you are fucked. I would defenitely stay in the room untill I find an idea on what to do next. If it is a big hotel, like here in las vegas, there are too much security to do anything , but it would be one of those cheap hotel, I would not leave that guy until he decide to pay me what he owes...

[chrismac]

>I usually don't get problems , I'm not small , neither

>skinny , I do have lots of martial art behind me and I know

>how to react with Idiots and those kinds of peoples......

 

This may seem uncalled for, and no offense meant - but there's something slightly erotic in the thought that someone as sweet and nice as Stephan, with such a hot bod could use those muscles to straighten out a bad situation with a jerk who didn't keep up his end of the bargain. Mmmm - makes me want to see that aggressive side

 

Of course I wouldn't want any escorts to experience problems with idiot clients - they give all clients a bad name.

[Dbltrblescorts]

Dear Escorts,

 

I had a client with the audassity to ask me that question at the end of our session, which was enjoyed by both of us. He said it in a joking yet condescendingly serious way, " What would you do if I just didnt pay you?". I kindly and in a joking yet condescendingly serious way said "See that antique candelabra on the fireplace, Ill bash you over the head with it" He gladly gave me my dues and I havent heard from him again. I wonder why...

 

sincerely, Blake from Orlando

[Guest JON1265]

It's kind of scary to know that so many people would and could resort to violence over a few bucks...

 

I personally wouldn't even think of NOT paying an escort for his services (pending, of course, when he delivered said services)...

 

Hell, I can't even imagine not tipping an escort (escorts through agencies only - I don't tip independents).

 

But if you steal, bash, or kick someone...remember YOU could go to prison as well....

[chrismac]

>But if you steal, bash, or kick someone...remember YOU could

>go to prison as well....

 

I'm not convinced most escorts WOULD resort to that kind of violence, for the sake of their own safety as well, but escorts have little other recourse (the legal avenue being more or less closed to them, and they don't have an agency to assist them), so they may have to resort to a threat if a client becomes a criminal. Still, if one issues a threat, one has to be prepared to follow-through on it. Don't draw the gun unless you're prepared to fire, and all that.

 

This thread has two sides; what about clients who feel ripped off by escorts more of the "hustler" variety who take money beforehand and take off after 10 minutes? Seems the answer has been all along to avoid the unknown escorts, especially if they demand payment up front - but what do you do if they're already in your room or home and demand the money? Threaten them?

[Guest Blink]

Chris..you are right!!

 

Much too often the client is faced with this situation because the escort could not deliver what he promised. Also, when the escort was not what he said he was or his picture was of someone or was taken decades ago, the client actually became the victim. The number of unfavorable reviews on certain escorts will attest to that. A good trade pratice is defined by the willingness of the buyer to pay the service of a willing seller. If the seller is not willing or is not what he falsely advertized, then- there should be no business to transpire.

 

Now...let me ask the question... what would you do, Johns?

[Bilbo]

I find that very often (not always, obviously) one of the best threats is to not let him see me again.