HoseMaster Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) I saw him the other night, and I also got “stretched”, but not in a good way. • He is the guy in his pics (although he does shave his chest and stomach, and I felt the stubble which was a little uncomfortable for me). • Handsome guy • Sweet personality • Kissing is limited • Says he is versatile, but he couldn’t keep it hard long enough to continue as a top. When I tried topping him, he couldn’t take me for that long (and I don’t consider myself hung in any way whatsoever). I had to jack myself off to finish, which was very disappointing, as I can do that at home watching porn. However, he couldn’t follow through in either role. • I told him I wanted an hour before I even ventured to go meet him at his hotel. I only brought in cash his hourly fee of $300, plus a possible tip if he was good. I was on time, but he asked for ten more minutes (which initially didn’t seem like a big deal to me). • Once I got there, we started talking a bit just to get to know each other, which is normal for any one or two hour appointment I do. What seemed like an hour of talking (which it probably was), I said we need to get on with it, as he never wanted to initiate anything. It seemed like if I didn’t initiate anything, he would’ve kept talking. When we were done, two hours had passed. I gave him his initial fee of $300, plus a tip. He was like, “Oh no! You were here TWO hours! You owe me $600 total.” At this point, I felt hussled, as it shouldn’t be ME that keeps track of the time. Yeah, we went two hours, but the first hour was him allowing me to continue to talk, without initiating what I was there for. I felt if I wouldn’t have said anything, he would’ve just continued to talk, and then asked for his hourly fee of just talking. • Would I hire him again? Most likely not, as it left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth by him not performing as a top or bottom, asking for more time on my schedule (which initially wouldn’t have been an issue, but once it was HIS time, THAT time became money), and then asking for another full hour’s rate when I feel HE should have initiated the intimacy, knowing how much time I had requested. Edited June 10, 2022 by HoseMaster + DrownedBoy, DruJac, BabyBoomer and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I hope you did not give him $600. He sounds like a hustler. + glutes, + FrankR and KeepItReal 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Lazarus said: I hope you did not give him $600. He sounds like a hustler. Unfortunately I did. He asked if I had Venmo or Zelle, as I never bring my wallet to first-time meetings, and only had enough cash to cover what I was there for. I really wasn’t sure what else to do that wouldn’t cause a scene. I’ve had this kind of shit happen before with other escorts as well, but I’m also really not sure how to handle a situation like this. Maybe I should start a new thread on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ FrankR Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, HoseMaster said: Unfortunately I did. He asked if I had Venmo or Zelle, as I never bring my wallet to first-time meetings, and only had enough cash to cover what I was there for. I really wasn’t sure what else to do that wouldn’t cause a scene. I’ve had this kind of shit happen before with other escorts as well, but I’m also really not sure how to handle a situation like this. Maybe I should start a new thread on this? I am sorry this happened to you. I like my providers to be active and passionate contributors so I can usually tell within the first 15 minutes how things will go. Always keep an eye on the clock and never let them run out the clock - would rather end early and save that extra they would charge me if we go over. on another prospect. Once you get to the point where you have gone over the hour, your options are limited and almost all unsatisfactory. Edited June 11, 2022 by FrankR KeepItReal and HoseMaster 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 12 hours ago, FrankR said: I am sorry this happened to you. I like my providers to be active and passionate contributors so I can usually tell within the first 15 minutes how things will go. Always keep an eye on the clock and never let them run out the clock - would rather end early and save that extra they would charge me if we go over. on another prospect. Once you get to the point where you have gone over the hour, your options are limited and almost all unsatisfactory. Thanks Frank. I need to keep this in mind for future new hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmM Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 5:57 AM, FrankR said: I am sorry this happened to you. I like my providers to be active and passionate contributors so I can usually tell within the first 15 minutes how things will go. Always keep an eye on the clock and never let them run out the clock - would rather end early and save that extra they would charge me if we go over. on another prospect. Once you get to the point where you have gone over the hour, your options are limited and almost all unsatisfactory. What about when you finish half an hour early and still have the half hour left? HoseMaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ FrankR Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, manmed said: What about when you finish half an hour early and still have the half hour left? Play ball! I am always up for round two! 😉 MmM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, FrankR said: Play ball! I am always up for round two! 😉 Who’s that? He looks familiar….yum! BonVivant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
former lurker Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 9 hours ago, HoseMaster said: Who’s that? He looks familiar….yum! Reggie (character name) on Riverdale. HoseMaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Looks like the ad is gone. Undergoing a name change again perhaps? + glutes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyBoomer Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, HoseMaster said: Looks like the ad is gone. Undergoing a name change again perhaps? This is his current ad. https://rentmen.eu/Damian_p ~Boomer~ HoseMaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) On 6/9/2022 at 12:30 PM, glutes said: have heard that he can stretch out the session, then demand to be paid an extra hour. If someone charges by the hour ..there's certainly an incentive for them to induce you to extend the session to an additional hour. ( Which of course you should pay for ) because that's their business model. Edited June 20, 2022 by pubic_assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: If someone charges by the hour ..there certainly an incentive for them to induce you to extend the session to an additional hour. ( Which of course you should pay for ) because that's their business model. If I ask you for only an hour, and you talk to me for an hour, never initiate getting down to business, and then I end up staying with you well over that hour that I initially asked you to for you to milk the shit out of me, I should NOT have to pay you for your hustling. I didn’t ask for an hour of counseling in addition to an hour of fucking. Yea, their time is valuable, but so is mine. I, unfortunately, got taken by this hustler, and it won’t happen again. “Hey Mr Electrician, thanks for replacing that light switch you told me you could get fixed in a hour for $100. What’s that? You also painted the wall where you fixed the switch, and now I owe you $200??? I already had the paint and I was going to do that after you left. Thanks for doing that though, but here’s your $100 for fixing the switch.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoDrew Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 If I have only booked an hour, five minutes is more than enough chit chat. If they haven't initiated I do. I have friends I can talk to. If they want to keep talking, it should be off the clock. Let them know you are ready to go. I hate to say it but it's partly your fault. They might be thinking you are waiting to be comfortable. Especially a first meeting I like to book more than an hour. Gives a bit more time. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, TorontoDrew said: If I have only booked an hour, five minutes is more than enough chit chat. If they haven't initiated I do. I have friends I can talk to. If they want to keep talking, it should be off the clock. Let them know you are ready to go. I hate to say it but it's partly your fault. They might be thinking you are waiting to be comfortable. Especially a first meeting I like to book more than an hour. Gives a bit more time. Maybe partly my fault, but he knew what he was doing. I don’t wear a watch, and there was no clock I could see. I normally do a lot of overnights, so the clock is never a concern. I’m normally a very generous person when it comes to my time. I recently put in a backyard sprinkler system with a copper manifold for a close friend of mine and sweat my ass off for less than I paid this guy. I’ve done numerous other odd and electrical jobs for many more people that I’d never think of hustling any more money out of, and even rekeyed and master-keyed a 400-lock church/school for free. It’s not my way, so maybe I expect similar responses from people, which I know I shouldn’t. What I should’ve said to this hustler was, “Here is your $300 for the hour we agreed upon. We did talk talk for an hour so the least I can do is give you $100 for that. However, since we’re now down tit-for-tat, I was on time for your appointment. You made me wait an additional 10 minutes in my car, which is time wasted in my book. Normally I wouldn’t have cared, because I thought you were a nice guy. However, now I feel you’re hustling me for more money, and this was time I didn’t ask for. Time wasted is a worth a lot of money to me, and if you’re putting stuff to dollar amounts, that wasted ten minutes was worth $50.00 to me, therefore I’m taking it off your fee.” However, that’s not me, but it may force me to become someone like that, which is totally out of character for me. IMG_2800.MOV Blackout351, Lazarus and + glutes 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingAround Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 It was a lot your fault for talking and not monitoring the time. Hope you learned your lesson. You bear as much or more responsibility for this as the escort does. You were the one in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, LookingAround said: It was a lot your fault for talking and not monitoring the time. Hope you learned your lesson. You bear as much or more responsibility for this as the escort does. You were the one in control. I will agree that it’s partly my fault. However, I have to disagree that I near as much responsibility as he does. I told him I wanted an hour. He knows I’m not there for a counseling session. If he’s going to be that much of a hustler and clock watcher, he should’ve put an hourglass on the table as soon as I got there. And to top things off, he couldn’t get me off as a top or bottom, but advertises as “versatile”?? No. Absolutely not. One of the best hourlies I had was with a German blonde guy named Aaron Mark. He answered the door, and gave me a big kiss and started rolling around on the ground taking each other’s clothes off. That’s how it’s done, Edited June 20, 2022 by HoseMaster Luv2play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 hours ago, HoseMaster said: If I ask you for only an hour, and you talk to me for an hour, never initiate getting down to business, and then I end up staying with you well over that hour that I initially asked you to for you to milk the shit out of me, I should NOT have to pay you for your hustling. Well ...although I understand your perspective...I think you are missing the business agreement of "escorting". An escort is paid for their TIME. They can't legally charge you for "milk the shit out of me" service..so the clock isn't ticking for anything but TIME spent with you and time is what you pay for So sorry you felt cheated but next time you should be more conscious that you ARE paying for time, not sex acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Well ...although I understand your perspective...I think you are missing the business agreement of "escorting". An escort is paid for their TIME. They can't legally charge you for "milk the shit out of me" service..so the clock isn't ticking for anything but TIME spent with you and time is what you pay for So sorry you felt cheated but next time you should be more conscious that you ARE paying for time, not sex acts. I agree, as it is their “time”. However, as stated before, I’m not there to talk. He advertises as an escort, and he lists as versatile. He should be able to get another guy off that also is versatile. If he can’t perform as expected, then he shouldn’t price as expected. I’d he’s not feeling up to it that day, then so be it. Don’t expect full payment then, and don’t run my clock out purposely. He’s been around long enough to know the deal, and he’s also been around long enough to know when to sucker someone if he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Again....paid BY the hour for my TIME still means if you're there for two hours - you PAY for two hours. Conversely if you pay someone for an hour of their time they should be there for an hour even if you nut in the first five minutes. TorontoDrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoseMaster Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 50 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Again....paid BY the hour for my TIME still means if you're there for two hours - you PAY for two hours. Conversely if you pay someone for an hour of their time they should be there for an hour even if you nut in the first five minutes. Again…I asked for one hour. Not two. It is just as much HIS responsibility to get the session going as it was mine. I did have to start the session, and I will take part blame for that. Conversely, if I pay for an hour and I nut in the first five minutes (which never happens anyways), he better not try to kick me out right after that, because I may want to cuddle or relax with him for 50 minutes. If he would’ve said after 60 minutes, “our hour is up, and I need to get to another appointment, and you still owe me $300”, that would’ve been fighting words. I would’ve said, “No. you wasted my time for the 90 round trip minutes it took me to get here to see you. You wasted 10 minutes of my time waiting for you, but I will give you $100 for your time talking.” Also, again, you need to realize he did NOT keep up his end of the deal: he could not be versatile and perform in either fashion. Therefore, he did NOT DELIVER. I’ll also add this question: what if we talked for half an hour, and had fun for an hour, for a total of 90 minutes? How much should he get then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Client1985 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Lesson learned. The giy is bad news. Small amount of money to be done with the fool. HoseMaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoDrew Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, HoseMaster said: Again…I asked for one hour. Not two. It is just as much HIS responsibility to get the session going as it was mine. I did have to start the session, and I will take part blame for that. Conversely, if I pay for an hour and I nut in the first five minutes (which never happens anyways), he better not try to kick me out right after that, because I may want to cuddle or relax with him for 50 minutes. If he would’ve said after 60 minutes, “our hour is up, and I need to get to another appointment, and you still owe me $300”, that would’ve been fighting words. I would’ve said, “No. you wasted my time for the 90 round trip minutes it took me to get here to see you. You wasted 10 minutes of my time waiting for you, but I will give you $100 for your time talking.” Also, again, you need to realize he did NOT keep up his end of the deal: he could not be versatile and perform in either fashion. Therefore, he did NOT DELIVER. I’ll also add this question: what if we talked for half an hour, and had fun for an hour, for a total of 90 minutes? How much should he get then? 1.5 hours. I've booked a number of sessions for that amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 This guy’s not my type so I wouldn’t give him $1, but we recently had a similar situation where an escort changed the time and was still 15 minutes late, couldn’t stay hard, and as we continued chatting for a while after, said we owed 2 hour’s worth. He was very nice but he cost more than my therapist! Lesson leaned for me, as I will set a timer with any new guy. TorontoDrew and HoseMaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Escorts are paid by the hour. Not by the amount of time you spend shagging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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