Hosting in a hotel/ Sex work crackdown?

[fleetwoodjack]

Hi! So I'm very new to this whole thing and I found a provider who I like and I was gonna set something up at a nice hotel (its neutral territory and I feel like treating myself lol). But I've been reading how Marriott has been cracking down on sex trafficking and how the employees' training could affect sex workers too. Do I need to worry about my guy being ID-ed as a sex worker? And for any escorts, feel free to tell me if that's something you ever think about when meeting a client at a hotel!

 

Also feel free to call me paranoid too. First time jitters!

[Mocha]

Hi! So I'm very new to this whole thing and I found a provider who I like and I was gonna set something up at a nice hotel (its neutral territory and I feel like treating myself lol). But I've been reading how Marriott has been cracking down on sex trafficking and how the employees' training could affect sex workers too. Do I need to worry about my guy being ID-ed as a sex worker? And for any escorts, feel free to tell me if that's something you ever think about when meeting a client at a hotel!

 

Also feel free to call me paranoid too. First time jitters!

 

If it helps you any, I have had 2 clients who are employees of such chains. And they gladly give me their friends n family discount.

 

In that regard, there really should be no obvious signs. Even if they did, what are they going to do? Have pictures printed of every escort posted on RentMen and holler out, “HEY, Stop right there! You are a sex worker, You need to leave!” Is that the kind of attention Marriott wants? I doubt it.

 

I just had a hotel clerk the other week leave me a cute little crush note and his phone number...asking me to dinner. I was like that’s so sweet, but I reached out to him on my personal phone and not my working line (so he can’t go snooping around later). And after that, I booked another night at the hotel when he was not working that day...and took in a client. What if he found out I was an escort later, and? What is he going to do? Nothing.

 

Unless the hotel specifically says no guests are allowed, you’re well within your right to being whoever you want to bring to his/your hotel room. For all they know, you’re reimbursing me for my hotel cost and for traveling all this way to see you. That’s what people are supposed to do lol.

 

I understand being paranoid, but sometimes you just have to think rationally about circumstances. Sex trafficking is different than a single man or 2 being seen together in a hotel.

[+ Keith30309]

Hi! So I'm very new to this whole thing and I found a provider who I like and I was gonna set something up at a nice hotel (its neutral territory and I feel like treating myself lol). But I've been reading how Marriott has been cracking down on sex trafficking and how the employees' training could affect sex workers too. Do I need to worry about my guy being ID-ed as a sex worker? And for any escorts, feel free to tell me if that's something you ever think about when meeting a client at a hotel!

 

Also feel free to call me paranoid too. First time jitters!

What is a trafficker?

I’ve spent about 150 nights in a <large chain> property thus far this year and met guys at least half of them, including a handful of overnights, and never heard a peep. I’ve ask some of my repeat friends about issues and none have encountered any.

 

Depending on what part of the hotel an employee works in, that information may differ, but generally people are looking out for excessive requests for towels and linens; random people entering and exiting a hotel room; requests for an isolated room; excessive control over another person, such as not letting them speak or move freely, and more. To spot a potential trafficking victim, hotel workers are trained to look for things like clothing that's inappropriate to the weather or someone having little to no luggage. Trainers stressed that none of these potential signs should be taken for a definite case of sex trafficking, but rather workers should look for multiple signs together — one of which could also include a general feeling that something isn't right.

Source

[+ nycman]

Also feel free to call me paranoid too. First time jitters!

Bingo. You’re being paranoid.

 

The hotel doesn’t give a fuck what you’re up to.

They’ve seen it all.

Just pay your bill and don’t upset the other guests.

[Mocha]

Bingo. You’re being paranoid.

 

The hotel doesn’t give a fuck what you’re up to.

They’ve seen it all.

Just pay your bill and don’t upset the other guests.

 

I figured out that there’s only 3 main things hotels will “get you” for (even more than skid marks on the bed, which is why out of courtesy I now carry my own top sheets lol):

 

1. Smoking/Damage

2. Not paying/Checking out when due.

3. Pets

 

Because of #3, I had to give up traveling with pets despite some hotel chains allowing it. And I got tired of reading, “and if you don’t notify us of a pet, a $150 cleaning fee applies”.

 

Occasionally there will be a hotel that doesn’t allow guests who aren’t checked in. Had that happen once in Mesa, Arizona. I was so annoyed. I had to come down and let him in, and listen to “we normally don’t allow guests in rooms”. Definitely won’t stay there again on my next trip to Phoenix.

[MrMattBig]

I try to stay in Marriott hotels primarily. They got slack a few years ago for targeting single women at their bars as potential sex workers. I think that has since subsided. IMO I think employees of the name branded "Marriott" hotels can be slightly biased at times. I try to stay in Moxy hotels from Marriott anytime I can. They practically encourage nightlife and hooking up lol.

From the client end of booking there shouldn't be a worry. From the escorts end, of booking, it's wise to be a little inconspicuous and not use an escorting number as a contact.

[+ JEC]

I've never had an issue in hotels, and agree with @nycman hotels have "seen it all". I was traveling this week, called for extra towels (at a Marriott property BTW) and the housekeeper who delivered them said "have a good time" . As long as you're following hotel rules, and not being disruptive, what happens behind those closed doors is fair game. I'd be more worried about variability in law enforcement while traveling, that is whether locals are more inclined to set up a "sting" operation online, I would exercise extra caution screening and selecting your providers and doing a "sniff" test for vice.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Again, a lot of this depends on the hotel and how much caution one is exercising.

 

Pick hotels where you're just a cog in the machine. (However, that doesn't mean it needs to be a flophouse)

 

If you're doing a lot of turn & burn, don't stay at a property that's trained to recognize you and/or call you by your last name.

[+ VictorPowers]

I have stayed exclusively at Marriott/SPG properties for 2 years now. All I can report is a fairly regular question asking purpose of my visit. If you answer that question while visibility paranoid, maybe that’d draw suspicion. More than likely, the Q is for their notations and metrics to determine what type of travelers the location is receiving and nothing more.

 

I meet the majority of my clients in the lobby, and have zero issues. Confidence can make you blend right in with a busy hotel lobby with many coming/going.

 

I feel you may be overthinking the whole thing. I’d bet any (alleged) policy changes would be surrounding very obvious, reckless, and problem guests that are ruining the stays for others.

[marylander1940]

If it helps you any, I have had 2 clients who are employees of such chains. And they gladly give me their friends n family discount.

 

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didn't you have a friend in jail because he got caught doing that?

 

Hi! So I'm very new to this whole thing and I found a provider who I like and I was gonna set something up at a nice hotel (its neutral territory and I feel like treating myself lol). But I've been reading how Marriott has been cracking down on sex trafficking and how the employees' training could affect sex workers too. Do I need to worry about my guy being ID-ed as a sex worker? And for any escorts, feel free to tell me if that's something you ever think about when meeting a client at a hotel!

 

Also feel free to call me paranoid too. First time jitters!

 

When it comes to privacy the bigger the hotel the better. As long you behave and don't make noise nobody will even wonder what are you doing.

[Trick]

When meeting a provider for elevator access, I stay at out of the way locations in the hotel lobby like the cafe, the by the wall seating area, etc. I also avoid exchanging pleasantries until we get to the room.

 

In the room, I avoid soiling the linen as much as I can. A towel is always on standby for “accidents”

[+ azdr0710]

ask your guy to dress inconspicuously/plainly......stay in a huge and impersonal convention-ish hotel.......check out the elevator security/keycard situation before he arrives and plan accordingly......move about confidently and don't draw attention to yourself.......as suggested above, I think hotel employees are being trained to be aware of sex-trafficking these days, so keep your room tidied up and all that!!......however, the sex-trafficking we see all over the news is more about underage/against-their-will stuff rather than two consenting adults meeting for an agreed-to plan

[LookingAround]

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[fleetwoodjack]

Hey thanks for the thoughtful responses y'all!! Just thought it'd be nice to get all that off my chest. Since I don't have much to worry about, I can now fully enjoy the session. Thanks again guys!

[Mocha]

didn't you have a friend in jail because he got caught doing that?

 

No, no, no lol. see this is why I don’t do he said, she said stuff lol. You took something I said and mixed it up.

 

It wasn’t my friend. It was a guy friend I know who’s ex partner (who’s also an ex-escort) had went thru. It had nothing to do with a client sending a friend’s and family form, and an escort using it. That particular situation was more along the lines of the ex-escort having access to an employee code, and likely making fake documents to show he was an employee, when he wasn’t.

 

But...I’m not going to gossip because I don’t even know who the ex-escort was, never met him. It was simply something I said to relate to another topic, but I have no personal knowledge of it myself. That’s why I’m not even naming the hotel chain or the city...

[marylander1940]

No, no, no lol. see this is why I don’t do he said, she said stuff lol. You took something I said and mixed it up.

 

It wasn’t my friend. It was a guy friend I know who’s ex partner (who’s also an ex-escort) had went thru. It had nothing to do with a client sending a friend’s and family form, and an escort using it. That particular situation was more along the lines of the ex-escort having access to an employee code, and likely making fake documents to show he was an employee, when he wasn’t.

 

But...I’m not going to gossip because I don’t even know who the ex-escort was, never met him. It was simply something I said to relate to another topic, but I have no personal knowledge of it myself. That’s why I’m not even naming the hotel chain or the city...

 

The hearsay just got more confusing

[+ ArVaGuy]

This is an issue the entire hotel industry is trying to manage. As a business events professional, I read a number of industry trade publications. The focus of these efforts is targeting organized trafficking primarily in women and children. Hotel employees are receiving training in spotting the telltale signs of trafficking.

 

I would not be too concerned about hotels zeroing in on single male escorts conducting business unless they are creating issues for other guests with noise, drugs, or bad behavior. That kind of action will get any guest tossed out or arrested.

[Guest]

The focus of these efforts is targeting organized trafficking primarily in women and children. Hotel employees are receiving training in spotting the telltale signs of trafficking.

 

Yes, female, not male escorts are the main target. But it's not just trafficking. Independent female escorts are being given a harder time too. Sad to say there still exists a huge double standard in our profession.

[MrMattBig]

2 more cents...

 

While it's not policy to go after sex workers specifically, we are always the scapegoats and fodder of efforts to curb sex/human trafficking.

And while hotel chains are really only supposed be training to recognize and report signs of trafficking, you never know when you will encounter a hotel employee who wants to play tattle tale and act on their own personal prejudices and biases. Hotel stay contracts have in them clauses that prohibit illegal activities, which in the eyes of the law and public opinion, are blurred when it comes to sex work.

[Mocha]

2 more cents...

 

While it's not policy to go after sex workers specifically, we are always the scapegoats and fodder of efforts to curb sex/human trafficking.

And while hotel chains are really only supposed be training to recognize and report signs of trafficking, you never know when you will encounter a hotel employee who wants to play tattle tale and act on their own personal prejudices and biases. Hotel stay contracts have in them clauses that prohibit illegal activities, which in the eyes of the law and public opinion, are blurred when it comes to sex work.

 

That’s so true.

 

But see...this is exactly why I will occasionally stay at a red roof inn or similar “doors on the outside” hotel. Despite the fact that both escorts and clients alike tend to have their biases about them.

 

When I was in DC last month, my busiest hotel was a doors on the outside hotel off the loop. I had 1 client who almost cancelled and I had to literally coach and coax him to just come to the hotel...because he felt it was too “out in the open” and he didn’t feel comfortable. Fortunately he came thru, and it turned out spectacular.

 

But it goes to show, people feel this false sense of safety/discretion in an interior corridor hotel...but it’s much more discrete to spend 5 seconds walking from your car to the door versus walking thru a crowded hotel where there’s company happy hours, etc. going on and all 500 people get to watch you do the walk of shame back to the parking garage lol.

[Trick]

 

all 500 people get to watch you do the walk of shame back to the parking garage lol.

 

 

Why would it be a walk of shame? If you treat it like one, your body language will only arouse suspicion among those who see you.

 

From the provider’s room, the elevator, the lobby, all the way to my car, I walk and act like I’m just another guest at the hotel going out to grab lunch or dinner.

 

Of course I make sure I don’t have the scent of sex on me before I leave the room.

[+ Keith30309]

That’s so true.

 

But see...this is exactly why I will occasionally stay at a red roof inn or similar “doors on the outside” hotel. Despite the fact that both escorts and clients alike tend to have their biases about them.

 

When I was in DC last month, my busiest hotel was a doors on the outside hotel off the loop. I had 1 client who almost cancelled and I had to literally coach and coax him to just come to the hotel...because he felt it was too “out in the open” and he didn’t feel comfortable. Fortunately he came thru, and it turned out spectacular.

 

But it goes to show, people feel this false sense of safety/discretion in an interior corridor hotel...but it’s much more discrete to spend 5 seconds walking from your car to the door versus walking thru a crowded hotel where there’s company happy hours, etc. going on and all 500 people get to watch you do the walk of shame back to the parking garage lol.

I concur

 

When I do an incall to an escort’s door-inside hotel I have to park in a lot that probably has lots of cameras and other people, walk thru a front door where there may be a security guard hanging out... past a front desk with a manager who may or may not be snoopy, wait for then ride in an elevator with unpredictable passenger(s) including staff, walk down a corridor past housekeeping and other guests, then knock on a door and stand in a hallway where I can be observed indefinitely. How do you explain to a front desk manager why you’re knocking on another man’s door? “Visiting a friend” will fly as long as I don’t look like a trouble-maker but it may look like my companion has lots of friends to all those pairs of eyes.

 

The alternative is I back into a parking space, walk 10 steps to a door where someone I just texted will be waiting for me. The only downside is that these hotels tend to be scuzzy and I usually don’t feel as safe because of the nature of the place.

[marylander1940]

I concur

 

When I do an incall to an escort’s door-inside hotel I have to park in a lot that probably has lots of cameras and other people, walk thru a front door where there may be a security guard hanging out... past a front desk with a manager who may or may not be snoopy, wait for then ride in an elevator with unpredictable passenger(s) including staff, walk down a corridor past housekeeping and other guests, then knock on a door and stand in a hallway where I can be observed indefinitely. How do you explain to a front desk manager why you’re knocking on another man’s door? “Visiting a friend” will fly as long as I don’t look like a trouble-maker but it may look like my companion has lots of friends to all those pairs of eyes.

 

The alternative is I back into a parking space, walk 10 steps to a door where someone I just texted will be waiting for me. The only downside is that these hotels tend to be scuzzy and I usually don’t feel as safe because of the nature of the place.

 

Hundred of folks do that every day!

 

My only concern about discretion is when I go to a small boutique hotel in Provincetown or the French Quarter and they just don’t care because they know what’s going on...

[marylander1940]

Why would it be a walk of shame? If you treat it like one, your body language will only arouse suspicion among those who see you.

 

From the provider’s room, the elevator, the lobby, all the way to my car, I walk and act like I’m just another guest at the hotel going out to grab lunch or dinner.

 

Of course I make sure I don’t have the scent of sex on me before I leave the room.

 

Or the JBF look...

[Leyte2019]

I concur

 

When I do an incall to an escort’s door-inside hotel I have to park in a lot that probably has lots of cameras and other people, walk thru a front door where there may be a security guard hanging out... past a front desk with a manager who may or may not be snoopy, wait for then ride in an elevator with unpredictable passenger(s) including staff, walk down a corridor past housekeeping and other guests, then knock on a door and stand in a hallway where I can be observed indefinitely. How do you explain to a front desk manager why you’re knocking on another man’s door? “Visiting a friend” will fly as long as I don’t look like a trouble-maker but it may look like my companion has lots of friends to all those pairs of eyes.

 

The alternative is I back into a parking space, walk 10 steps to a door where someone I just texted will be waiting for me. The only downside is that these hotels tend to be scuzzy and I usually don’t feel as safe because of the nature of the place.

 

You've obviously never been to hotels in the CBD or French Quarter.