Time Wasted

[DevDaddy]

Today I had the pleasure of speaking with a client for almost 4 hours on Rentmen. He initially reached out to me and asked for my unlock code, which I gave and left a note with, as I usually do. The note typically reads something like, “Enjoy the view Are you visiting Vegas soon?” After which he explained his situation.

He said he was turning 60 on October 2nd and wanted to celebrate his retirement with some hardcore domination over the course of the 2nd and the 3rd of October. For this he was offering upwards of $2,000. He was unsure of wether or not that was a service I could provide because of my appearance, stating I looked “kind” and like I “couldn’t hurt a fly”, but I assured him that if he took pleasure in it, I would too. He also stated that regardless of that fact he still reached out to me because he loved the way my dick looks.

Fast forward about 2 hours later and he is asking, no, demanding, a “sample”. I thought to myself, “Sure, what could it hurt? I can give this man a discounted price on an hour long encounter to ensure a much larger, much more substantial payout in a month or two.” I told him that I could give him an hour of my time tonight for $200, to which he replied, “Samples are free. I see what kind of person you are. I only wanted 5 minutes.” At which point I shrugged and said, “Alright for 5 minutes I’m willing to take a smaller donation. Maybe a dollar a minute?” He was not happy. He attempted to guilt trip me and then stated he had another, larger and more painful dick, as his second choice and would be going to him. At this point I was fed up with the gentlemen and told him that was fine. He could go with him and that he should stop messaging me if he was going to continue to just waste my time.

This is when he decided to not so vaguely threaten me and then block me. I don’t know what I’m looking for here, maybe clarity on what his thought process might have been? Ideas on how I can prevent ordeals like this from reoccurring? Maybe a new resource? Rentmen is becoming more and more of a miss for me lately because of things like this.

[MrMattBig]

There are loonies out there for sure who I am convinced find and create scenarios just to belittle escorts or make us doubt ourselves and abilities as escorts. Shake it off. What I would have done is offered to meet for drinks or something so he could get a sense from your personality of how the session would go. Even that would be a stretch though.

[+ FrankR]

I am afraid it probably falls into the category of “cost of doing business”. You have already identified some of the attributes of time wasters:

1. They are unclear on what they want

2. They keep asking you to lower your price or try to low ball

3. They keep trolling for info

4. They don’t respond quickly

5. Something feels off

 

Maya Angelou said it best: “Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option.”

[rvwnsd]

Client here, but wanted to weigh in and address some of the questions you raised. Let me preface this by saying the following are third-party observations and were I in your shoes I might not make them while in the thick of the exchange with the time-waster prospective client. Also, I am not laying blame on you. This guy is clearly a jerk and I'm sorry you had to experience him.

 

Today I had the pleasure of speaking with a client for almost 4 hours on Rentmen. He initially reached out to me and asked for my unlock code, which I gave and left a note with, as I usually do. The note typically reads something like, “Enjoy the view Are you visiting Vegas soon?” After which he explained his situation....

 

As a "premium" RM member, I can see "semi-private" pics without having to enter an unlock code (non-premium members need the code), but I have to request the code when the pictures are "private." I N-E-V-E-R request the code until I've sent the guy a note explaining what I like and receive a response that states we are compatible. To me (and it would seem most other reasonable people) asking to see private pics expresses more than a passing interest in the escort. If I don't know whether we would be a match, then I don't have more than a passing interest.

 

This is the long-form way of saying "Red flag #1."

 

...He said he was turning 60 on October 2nd and wanted to celebrate his retirement with some hardcore domination over the course of the 2nd and the 3rd of October....

 

I would not consider hiring an escort I do not know for more than an hour or two. Based on past replies from experienced clients, it seems this is a popular opinion.

 

We will call this "Red flag # 2."

 

...For this he was offering upwards of $2,000. He was unsure of wether or not that was a service I could provide because of my appearance, stating I looked “kind” and like I “couldn’t hurt a fly”...

 

Then why the hell was he contacting you for a BDSM session?

 

We will call this "Dude sounds like a nut job."

 

...but I assured him that if he took pleasure in it, I would too. He also stated that regardless of that fact he still reached out to me because he loved the way my dick looks....

 

OK, that makes sense but (IMO) not when he wants to spend two full days with you.

 

...Fast forward about 2 hours later and he is asking, no, demanding, a “sample”....

 

Any prospective client who "demands" anything deserves to be cut off from further communication. You are a much better and more generous man than me.

 

Red flags # 4-8, IMO.

 

 

...I thought to myself, “Sure, what could it hurt? I can give this man a discounted price on an hour long encounter to ensure a much larger, much more substantial payout in a month or two.” I told him that I could give him an hour of my time tonight for $200...

 

That is far more than reasonable. As stated above, you are a better and more generous man than me.

 

..., to which he replied, “Samples are free. I see what kind of person you are. I only wanted 5 minutes.”...

 

While his reply does not surprise me, it is completely uncalled for and warrants being immediately cut off.

 

...At which point I shrugged and said, “Alright for 5 minutes I’m willing to take a smaller donation. Maybe a dollar a minute?” ...

 

Once again, that is far more than reasonable. As stated twice above, you are a better and more generous man than me.

 

Let me pause and say this: I was interested in hiring an escort in LA. Doing so would require a road trip from my place in Phoenix to his in LA and I was not 100% convinced his pics were 100% recent. He does cam shows, so I contacted him and proposed a 15 minute cam show for 25% of his hourly rate to make sure we were compatible. We agreed that was fair. What you proposed is extremely reasonable.

 

...He was not happy. He attempted to guilt trip me and then stated he had another, larger and more painful dick, as his second choice and would be going to him. At this point I was fed up with the gentlemen and told him that was fine. He could go with him and that he should stop messaging me if he was going to continue to just waste my time....

 

That sounds reasonable to me. You don't have to tolerate that nonsense.

 

...This is when he decided to not so vaguely threaten me and then block me. ...

 

Sorry that you were threatened by a jerk, but glad you finally ended the ordeal.

 

...I don’t know what I’m looking for here, maybe clarity on what his thought process might have been? ...

 

Part of me says he was using the conversation as JO material and hoped to JO to you in person. Given the threats, sounds like he is just plain crazy and wanted to JO to all this.

 

...Ideas on how I can prevent ordeals like this from reoccurring?...

 

Here's a technique I use when hooking up or when chatting with a guy on a dating app/website: If the back-and-forth starts taking up too much time or appears to be going in circles, I reply with "hey I gotta run, will catch you later" or some such and leave it at that. You could easily say something like "Hey, I have a client at x o'clock and have to get ready. I know you understand because you will want me to be ready for our date." Then pick back up later after an appropriate cooling-off period.

 

...Maybe a new resource? Rentmen is becoming more and more of a miss for me lately because of things like this.

 

Aside from friendboy.pro, there really isn't anything besides RM in the US. Plus, flakes will migrate to other venues like pigeons to a new statue. And like pigeons, they are always full of shit and that shit needs to go somewhere. Unfortunately, you are the statue in this case.

 

In closing, you sound like a very gentlemanly, stand-up guy. I sincerely hope instances like this don't change that. The world needs more guys like you.

[Mocha]

This is when he decided to not so vaguely threaten me and then block me. I don’t know what I’m looking for here, maybe clarity on what his thought process might have been? Ideas on how I can prevent ordeals like this from reoccurring? Maybe a new resource? Rentmen is becoming more and more of a miss for me lately because of things like this.

 

I just want to say: I most recently put a note on my profile that I won’t be giving any private gallery codes without payment. PERIOD. Someone in DC got a hissy fit and blocked me after I told him that, so I had to just go ahead and put it in my profile.

 

Some of these guys contacting us on Rentmen act like big babies wearing diapers and need to be spanked lol. We have spoiled them rotten to a point where they pretty much think everything is free, up until they pay us. No. What the hell is the point of having a private gallery, if we are to just open them just because they request it? Do strippers just start taking off clothes just because a guy asks, or they waiting on tips? These cheap, spoiled suckers on the rentmen site have it twisted, and I have urged rentmen and other providers to stop giving them free passes. I used to have clients in and out of my door from Craigslist, and all they seen before meeting me was 1 picture of me wearing underwear, because Craigslist only allowed 1 photo and not nudes. These guys now are so entitled up their ass and seem to get mad when you ask for payment for nude pictures.

 

If they don’t like it, there’s usually 25 other pics on my profile they can look at. If they want to act overly entitled, and not pay me for my ARTWORK, then they can wait to see me in person, or get the hell on.

 

As for the rest, I would have had to cut him off from the jump. #1, he was asking for something in October. Too far in advance. He would of had to pay me $100 just to talk about that. #2 He started challenging your strength and demeanor. That’s disrespectful. And #3 his verbiage was condescending and rude, and 4 hours thru email on rentmen is too long.

Edited August 20, 2019 by Mocha