Discrepancy in courtesy, clients vs providers

[+ WilliamM]

I have only bargained once. And it was with someone I knew and liked here.

 

He quoted a much higher cost for an overnight than I had ever heard, or paid. I tried to change the location to where he lived - nothing seemed to work. I really wanted to see him. But eventually, I had to give up.

 

Given that experience, I seldom take sides in escort-client discussions in a forum on the site.

 

My comments could have been read as disagreeing with you. It says a lot about you, @marylander1940, that you were ok with it. Thanks!!

[marylander1940]

My comments could have been read as disagreeing with you. It says a lot about you, @marylander1940, that you were ok with it. Thanks!!

 

Actually I fully understood what you meant. Thank you for making it clear. I also clicked like on your previous post

[LivingnLA]

You put words in your mouth. You did fault him. There’s no taking it back. It’s said and done.

 

But, I can see how it could have come off more haphazardly than intended. Like I said, all great advice...but you specially said: if HIS presentation was better, THEY wouldn’t have flaked. Despite me sitting here right now, and giving my whole life story about how people can flake. And that’s just 72 hours worth of flakes. Imagine 10 years worth. And you can see why I’m so fed up. And what they are now, are far more vicious than 10 years ago. People back then used to BOOK within 1 single phone call.

 

All the blame should go towards the sociopaths and possibly their parents for raising them wrong...because they should be on medications, like adderal. Because they act like they have ADHD by making appointments and not showing up.

 

But I give credit where it’s due, what you’re saying is very true and a good way to manage it. It’s easier said than done for some of us...I just don’t have a lot of leniency for people who hit my phone up, bullshit me with text messages, interrupt my day, then don’t follow up with a meeting. I don’t have time for that shit. I’m not a customer service center. I have to report people EVERY WEEK because they have no regard for wasting my time.

 

That’s EXACTLY why I’ve taken down all of my nude pics on all sites, except Twitter...and that’s just promotional. I’m not showing shit to anyone anymore who isn’t planning an appointment. No reason to. And they don’t get the code either. Tired of people getting to see all of me, but then not treating me like I don’t deserve a little courtesy.

 

Before I decide to go on “strike”, One guy tells me he’s not comfortable paying upfront, then blocked me. Well I’m not comfortable showing you my dick upfront then. How about that?

 

Thank you for your perspective. I do not agree, but I see how it can be interpreted that way and I appreciate the reminder to be very aware of audience, especially when writing anything that can be taken as criticism.

Edited May 2, 2019 by LivingnLA

[MikeBiDude]

And many of us appreciate that

Appreciate what? I’m missing something here?

[marylander1940]

Appreciate what? I’m missing something here?

 

Read above!

 

Btw, it's an honor to be in your ignore list!

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Appreciate what? I’m missing something here?

 

It appears you're ignoring a member who I was responding to.

[MikeBiDude]

It appears you're ignoring a member who I was responding to.

Ahhhh, got it thanks @Benjamin_Nicholas I just got a private message from another forum friend informing me of same...

[marylander1940]

It appears you're ignoring a member who I was responding to.

 

 

 

They always click on "see ignored content"... I briefly ignored 2 guys on here and I also felt tempted. Now I don't ignore anybody.

 

[FRyan22]

Flake parade continues across the country. NYC, I have openings now for tomorrow ?

[+ oldNbusted]

Ahhhh, got it thanks @Benjamin_Nicholas I just got a private message from another forum friend informing me of same...

 

I've learned to check the post numbers in a thread to see if there are any gaps, to clue me in there were posts from accounts on my Block Party Guest List.

[MikeBiDude]

I've learned to check the post numbers in a thread to see if there are any gaps, to clue me in there were posts from accounts on my Block Party Guest List.

Good tip, thanks!

[Mocha]

@Mocha, this is a Forum to discuss various issues. I disagree with you about a deposit.

 

That does not make us enemies!!!

 

I’m sure people who ask to deliver horse breeds are paying deposits. If someone was shipping a horse from Kentucky to Texas. They’d probably get $1,000 upfront of their $60,000 that it costs for 1 horse.

 

How does 1 horse hung stallion differ from another ?

 

Prices on Thoroughbreds vary greatly, depending on age, pedigree, conformation, and other market factors. In 2007, Keeneland Sales, a United States based sales company, sold 9,124 horses at auction, with a total value of $814,401,000, which gives an average price of $89,259.

 

I’m selling myself cheap! I’m changing my rate to $7,500/hour starting TODAY. Those horses aren’t even fucking them, and they’re paying $89,000. Either that, or I need to start passing out my business cards at horse ranches!

Edited May 4, 2019 by Mocha

[Mocha]

Flake parade continues across the country. NYC, I have openings now for tomorrow ?

 

Same here, same here. It’s ridiculous. But, I’ve also had 2 really good clients come thru over the last couple days...and this is despite the fact I have taken all my nude pics to private.

 

As we get closer to graduation season, the flake factor will likely rise. I actually thought my client today was going to be a flake,but I really try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes the paranoia of a string of flakes can program us to see all calls/texts as flakes.

 

Also: to follow up to my initial post here, one of my flake clients from 3 weeks ago who I was saying threw off my whole Palm Springs roadtrip, sent a cancellation fee just the other day. Things got nasty, but eventually we squared it away. One of the others is just completely ignoring me, and that’s okay. I just won’t deal with him anymore.

 

I have had to sadly cut some repeat clients off. Sometimes I feel bad that I do, and I tell myself maybe I should have just let it be...and perhaps they’d come around “next time”. But I’ve played that game before. Let people cancel on me and leave me hanging, and be “understanding”.

 

But unless they were physically robbed or seriously had something happen, there’s no reason to not be reimbursed. People can feed you any old bullshit story over text messages. And that’s perfectly understandable. We were never promised truth and dependability when we signed up for this business.

 

At the same time, I ask myself...if a regular client really respected me as a person in business, they would reimburse me something, even if it’s $10, if they have to cancel. The ones who don’t, to me are just selfish and they don’t give a fuck. Therefore I can’t be nice and sappy with them, because once they show they don’t give a fuck about me, no amount of nice will change their lack of integrity.

 

Then I turn into this nasty person they didn’t expect. Yeah, because you fucking lead me on for a few days, and then play this bullshit game like we never had such a conversation or made an appointment. You damn right I’m going to go from Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde.

 

(I’m going to write to my Oscar winning client and ask him if he can reach out to some producers and see if another remake to that movie can be done next year lol)

Edited May 4, 2019 by Mocha

[studchaser]

If it was short notice without offering you compensation or adequate time to refill the time slot, maybe you should call them out by name...what they did was mean and disrespectful.

 

Back when people wrote checks, the stores would tape a bounced check at the cash register so everyone could see the offender. In small communities, it was very effective. This is a small community. It’s at least something to ponder...

 

I think there should be a thread where ppl are called out with username and other identifiable info. I have zero mercy on ppl who are not respectful of ppls time NONE! My benchmark is treat an escorts time the same way you would treat your boss or a contractor fixing your leaky roof. Dont treat ppl as an afterthought because you think you can when you are well aware of customary etiquette.

[Mocha]

My benchmark is treat an escorts time the same way you would treat your boss or a contractor fixing your leaky roof..

 

Oh God no! I see what you’re meaning, but Please don’t treat us like your boss and definitely not a contractor fixing a leaky roof!

 

Whenever a hurricane blows thru Florida, all those roofing “contractors” start going door to door sticking advertisements on the doors, and I hear half of them are shady anyway.

 

After hurricane Irma, most people just left tarps up on their roofs, and I wouldn’t be surprised if even now they’re still up.

 

That said, I think one of my young clients in Florida is a roofer/builder or some sort of contractor. He be giving me like 300 everytime I meet him, so I know he’s making bank...if that’s what he’s doing. So I can’t say they’re all shady.

Edited May 4, 2019 by Mocha

[studchaser]

To clarify, I was only referring to usernames. “Other identifiable info” would probably fall in the category precluded by forum rules.

 

Lol maybe some ppl need that or at least the threat of it.

[Guest]

I would think it prudent for escorts to have a policy requiring 24 hours' notice for any cancellation. If someone flakes on you, I think your options would be to either (1) not re-appoint that person, or (2) require the money in advance of any appointment from the flake.

[+ WilliamM]

I have a very different hiring background, including a hustler bar in New York City and Premier, an escort agency in Philadelphia. I count never count on someone from NYC to show that hour, or even that day.

 

And it was bad to cancel on Premier, but not life changing.

[+ WilliamM]

I would think it prudent for escorts to have a policy requiring 24 hours' notice for any cancellation. If someone flakes on you, I think your options would be to either (1) not re-appoint that person, or (2) require the money in advance of any appointment from the flake.

 

How would that work for someone just starting, or, perhaps more important, for a person who needed the money.

[Guest]

How would that work for someone just starting, or, perhaps more important, for a person who needed the money.

I would guess you would keep yourself available for someone who might actually show up.

[Mocha]

I am sorry to the OP for the trouble he experienced. I remember back a couple of years and my experience trying to hire him when he was visiting my city, from changing his flights on me and cancelling our first appointment-- to his ever changing work schedule, to a myriad of other excuses and roadblocks like making me wait for him to go out with friends for dinner and drinks, I know I had to finally give up, despite initially wanting to meet him very much.

Perhaps they ran into some of the same issues trying to meet as I did and also had to finally give up. In any case, you deserve to have the people who make commitments honor them, and I am saddened to read about people failing to honor their obligations.

 

How far in advance did you schedule him?

 

Some (many) clients these days contact on the day of, expecting us to drop everything and rush to see them. I went off on 1 guy today, because I spent all night before bed coming up with specific instructions about scheduling a visit with me. He had the cheek to say he did read it, but was hoping to see “if by chance” I was able to do it differently. Then adds, “I’ll catch you on your next visit” when I will him otherwise.

 

This same imbecile contacted me 3 months ago, and didn’t follow up. So this time, I told him: if he’s a recent college grad like he claims he is, then HE MUST know how to read. So I said, “you must be playing dumb”. He didn’t like that.

 

Not saying this case is the same as yours...but some people out here operate only on the imagination that men posting a profile on a rent website solely exist to cater to their schedule, their timing, their spontaneous reaction to meet.

[Mocha]

This escort does not advertise except for posting travels here, but I booked him via email 1 week out. He soft cancelled the day before and started giving me tentative alternative appointments. I would wake up the next morning (over multiple days) after not hearing anything to messages like this "I am finally at the hotel on the off chance you’re still awake / willing". Despite providing him a contact number, I never got anything but email communication and he never provided me with his number.

It was much more me "solely exist[ing] to cater to [his]schedule, [his] timing, [his] spontaneous reaction to meet.".

 

Saddest thing about all of this is (about me), if our paths crossed again... I would more than likely agree to an appointment and I would 100% show up if I did.

 

So is the escort in question also the OP? If so, perhaps it’d be fair to let him respond.

 

Either way..sounds unfortunate. Hope in the future y’all can make it work.

[+ FrankR]

If you resemble your profile picture, i can’t imagine anyone wanting to cancel on you

He does indeed look like his pics! Handsome guy! ??

[FRyan22]

How far in advance did you schedule him?

 

Some (many) clients these days contact on the day of, expecting us to drop everything and rush to see them. I went off on 1 guy today, because I spent all night before bed coming up with specific instructions about scheduling a visit with me. He had the cheek to say he did read it, but was hoping to see “if by chance” I was able to do it differently. Then adds, “I’ll catch you on your next visit” when I will him otherwise.

 

This same imbecile contacted me 3 months ago, and didn’t follow up. So this time, I told him: if he’s a recent college grad like he claims he is, then HE MUST know how to read. So I said, “you must be playing dumb”. He didn’t like that.

 

Not saying this case is the same as yours...but some people out here operate only on the imagination that men posting a profile on a rent website solely exist to cater to their schedule, their timing, their spontaneous reaction to meet.

 

Thanks for this.

[FRyan22]

This escort does not advertise except for posting travels here, but I booked him via email 1 week out. He soft cancelled the day before and started giving me tentative alternative appointments. I would wake up the next morning (over multiple days) after not hearing anything to messages like this "I am finally at the hotel on the off chance you’re still awake / willing". Despite providing him a contact number, I never got anything but email communication and he never provided me with his number.

It was much more me "solely exist[ing] to cater to [his]schedule, [his] timing, [his] spontaneous reaction to meet.".

 

Saddest thing about all of this is (about me), if our paths crossed again... I would more than likely agree to an appointment and I would 100% show up if I did.

 

Disclaimer: My experience was way back in 2018.

 

This 100% proves my point.

 

The reason for creating this thread was to open a discussion, not discuss specific happenings (The difference is that I did not name anyone in my post, and didn’t intend to), and here this guy comes along someone shaming me in public.

 

I’m pretty much over it - PM me if you would like references of the great times I’ve had with men on the forum. If not, drag me as much as you’d like. Elastic heart here.