Escort vs Masseur pt 2

[bigjsd]

I'm actually curious now based on the last time this was posted.

 

I am a client that is looking for both and would like a good massage (not a half-hearted rub) -- so am I looking for an escort with massage skills, or a masseuse that offers that extra something?

 

I ask because many masseuses (is that a word) don't advertise the extra even if it is available and it seems many of the escorts offer massage but in my understanding you run the range of skill level there and may end up with the half-hearted version.

[Edge All Year Long]

masseur = man

masseuse = woman

[bigjsd]

Whoops, masseur

[+ keroscenefire]

I would go for a Rent.men ad (instead of rentmasseur.com) and look for escorts that do massage, especially if they describe it as part of their written description. You can search "erotic massage" under services offered. You might also cross-reference any on DaddyReviews and see if people who reviewed them mentioned a great massage. And you could also go to rentmassuer.com and see if they offer massage services as well as having a rent.men ad. There was one in Denver that had an ad on both and he was great in both regards as well.

[David1024]

I'm actually curious now based on the last time this was posted.

 

I am a client that is looking for both and would like a good massage (not a half-hearted rub) -- so am I looking for an escort with massage skills, or a masseuse that offers that extra something?

 

I ask because many masseuses (is that a word) don't advertise the extra even if it is available and it seems many of the escorts offer massage but in my understanding you run the range of skill level there and may end up with the half-hearted version.

 

I think you would be better off with a masseur that is willing to do the extras rather than an escort that hasn’t had any training in massage. Some guys advertise on both Rentmen and Rentmasseur.

[+ HornyRetiree]

Over the years I have found the best solution, for me, to be a well trained Masseur who will deliver an excellent massage along with oral & anal. 90 minutes has ranged from $100 - $160.

Edited March 31, 2019 by HornyRetiree

[+ keroscenefire]

 

I am a client that is looking for both and would like a good massage (not a half-hearted rub) -- so am I looking for an escort with massage skills, or a masseuse that offers that extra something?

 

I guess it would also help to have "extra something" defined. Obviously you don't want a half-hearted rub, but what would you want from a masseur/escort? A really good happy ending with some mutual touch? Oral? Full on fucking? I think as you go more towards the latter, you're better off with an escort or escort/masseur. I've actually had more than one masseur, even on rentmassuer do and offer nothing more than a regular massage..one didn't even take his clothes off despite advertising "sensual massage." And that is fine as I actually wanted a massage and any extra would've just been a perk.

 

But if you're really wanting a massage that leads to sex, I would really go towards an escort that does massage.

[kevininsa]

Not every escort mentions massage. I would check both sites and see who advertises on both. Besides, then maybe instead of two hours at the escort rate, you might get an hour of each rate.

[Jakeenct]

I'm actually curious now based on the last time this was posted.

 

I ask because many masseuses (is that a word) don't advertise the extra even if it is available and it seems many of the escorts offer massage but in my understanding you run the range of skill level there and may end up with the half-hearted version.

 

I think having both is ideal and, true, you cannot tell you will get the best of both given ad content. I've read experiences posted in the forum to help make a decision on someone in particular but as "massage" goes, it's a gamble. Based on experiences here, I selected someone rated high on both massage and "extra curricular," paid a lot of money and in the end was disappointed. I kind of shy away from massage service providers but would not close the door as reading the experiences of others may just change my mind.

[+ HornyRetiree]

My relatively rural location (compared to many of you) probably plays a role in my ability to find skilled Masseurs who provide some nice extras — including extended Prostate massaging/draining, oral (mutual) and me being topped.

 

My current regular go to Masseus offer ample fun extras and I am left relaxed and drained. FYI, for a successful massage, I need to ejaculate at the end. A good massage moves a lot of energy around and that swirling energy needs to exit through the root chakra,

 

Anyway, I have come to know my regulars and we talk in general terms about both our experiences as client & provider. Without fail, they indicate that I receive the senual/erotic/sexual extras BECAUSE I really appreciate and come for the massage they offer - I am not just there like some (many) to hurry through that or skip that for sex. They are not impressed with those who disrespect them this way.

 

I am older:), carrying some extra pounds and my body exhibits the ravages of the decades. Add to that, shining eyes, a great smile, compassionate personality and my providers take pleasure in using their skills to help me feel the best possible.

 

It has become a mutual connection and while sexual components are involved they are more aspects of energy flow. They look foward to our monthly sessions (I see my three regulars monthly) They take professional satifaction in the role they play in my body maintenance,

 

So, your mind set is important as is finding a skilled masseur who knows the body systems,

 

That said, I have also treated myself to Escorts when I travel. Those sessions are understood to be SEX - HOT, Great, Draining sex! Even here, one of the top 50 ranked providers used some light massage as we started to get me relaxed — In this memorable session, massage was used for a different result.

 

The key is RESPECT, whether with a Masseur or an Escort. RESPECT! RESPECT! RESPECT! - Follow this guideline and you will probably receive the best and the most that the provider has to give.

Edited April 5, 2019 by HornyRetiree

[+ Just Sayin]

A couple of years ago, when Craigslist still had ads, I found a couple who were advertising sensual massages; I scheduled a 90-minute session that began with a skilled massage, and then, about midway through, they asked if I would like to adjourn to their bed; it was an excellent experience and I continue to schedule with them every other month; I live in an area where the local selection is usually limited, and these guys have been a welcome find for me.

[+ DALE CRUZE]

I know i will prolly get ridiculed for making this statement so before i do let me qualify it first by saying There are so many ways of doing a session. Whether it is an escort vs. masseur keep in mind that you have every right to get exactly what you desire and should definitely “shop” around before making a decision. Having said that just remember that this shyt aint rocket science and sometimes you may not even know what you TRULY like or want until u have experienced it for the first time and then all of a sudden, something clicks and ur saying to yourself, “hey...i really dig that and wanna try that again!”

So here goes my very watered and oversimplified analogy of the difference between an Escort vs. Masseur ...

 

With an Escort - the client controls the session / with a Masseur- the client gives up control of the session to the masseur .

 

Now before some of you get ur “panties” all in a bunch on this , (lol) ? hear me out .

When i first started doing massage 10 years ago , i was so green . I was scared i would make a mistake . I kept trying to figure out what the client wanted . And after i had seen a number of clients it became apparent to me these 3 things:

 

1. The client wants to let go and relax and not think about much in a massage . They want you to give their body the attention it needs and deserves without having to be a director. They seldom want chit chat during that period . Just make them feel good

 

2. The massage client is quite often in a relationship or situation where they are neglected physically. ie- married to female , stagnant boyfriend, or maybe they have a job that is strenuous or where they are constantly having to make important stressful decisions all day and for the duration of the session they just want to let go~feel pampered and be self indulgent on a small quiet scale.

 

3. Sexual arousal is okay but is not paramount & often “my” clients are more interested in a little frottage or in some cases not even that. And it’s okay ? as long as they leave feeling better mentally and physically...mission accomplished. A release at the end doesn’t really even amount to what i would define as sex. Thats also a very physical way of releasing tension. So it does complete a very good sensual massage in a positive way .

 

Now this is strictly my own views and i know i am not nor do i pretend 2 B an expert in all things “massage” but i have been doin it a long time and i have asked many questions thru the years.

 

At one point i did post an ad on Rentmen. And this is how i came to my version of the differences between the two .

Practically EVERY client that contacted me from Rentmen had specific requests and interests and what they expected out of a session. And that is OK too !

But the client is still in control .

 

Now some will say, “Hey wait a minute, I want to be a sub and I’m looking for somebody to dominate me and tell me what to do!” And you might be thinking well the client is giving up control of the session in that scenario!!

Not so ... The client is still determining what he wants/gets from the escort. And if that client goes into the session and mrEscort X doesn’t perform in exactly that manner, guess what ? The client most likely will end the session early . Still the client is in control .

That’s not to say that a client wouldn’t walk out of a bad massage early also. But the only time I’ve ever had that happen is when a client came to me for a massage mistakingly thinking that I was an escort posing as a masseur . Anyways i dont give bad massages !!

Also, I do not advertise anymore on Rentmen so that clients don’t see me playing different roles and getting confused about the services that I offer.

I know some guys do both, and I am not in anyway suggesting that there is any thing wrong with that. But I prefer for myself the energy exchange between me and the client through the healing power of a massage.

I connect better in that situation. And I like to stay in control.

What can I say? I guess I’m a control freak. ??‍♂️

 

Now, have my massages sometimes resulted in some hot intense sex? Yes of course . But again I like when things unfold naturally regarding sexual contact. I’m not the kind of person that makes a laundry list of requirements prior to sex.

 

I also found out about myself very quickly after I first started doing massage, that I really enjoy healing another person’s body thru touch!!

 

When I started doing massage It was only by accident because I had lost (like so many others) my job when Bush Left office and I couldn’t find work. My self-esteem was very low from constant rejection for employment.

My friend who was already doing massage brought me into it . And Once I started doing massage, I felt better about myself because I was helping others feel better too.

 

Since that time I have massaged I think I Estimated about 5000 or more & I never looked back .

Personally, I’ve hired both. Escorts and Masseurs.

They both bring something of interest to me to the table. But when I make those purchases, I shop around to get exactly what I want. And so should you.

Don’t get too upset if it takes a few tries. Chalk it up as a learning experience.

I have found that some of the most memorable experiences I’ve had were completely by accident and when I tossed all my Pre-requisites to the wind & took a leap of faith.

With that i say to you ...Peace and happy hunting !!! ✌️?

Edited April 6, 2019 by DALE CRUZE

[+ HornyRetiree]

I know i will prolly get ridiculed for making this statement so before i do let me qualify it first by saying There are so many ways of doing a session. Whether it is an escort vs. masseur keep in mind that you have every right to get exactly what you desire and should definitely “shop” around before making a decision. Having said that just remember that this shyt aint rocket science and sometimes you may not even know what you TRULY like or want until u have experienced it for the first time and then all of a sudden, something clicks and ur saying to yourself, “hey...i really dig that and wanna try that again!”

So here goes my very watered and oversimplified analogy of the difference between an Escort vs. Masseur ...

 

With an Escort - the client controls the session / with a Masseur- the client gives up control of the session to the masseur .

 

Now before some of you get ur “panties” all in a bunch on this , (lol) ? hear me out .

When i first started doing massage 10 years ago , i was so green . I was scared i would make a mistake . I kept trying to figure out what the client wanted . And after i had seen a number of clients it became apparent to me these 3 things:

 

1. The client wants to let go and relax and not think about much in a massage . They want you to give their body the attention it needs and deserves without having to be a director. They seldom want chit chat during that period . Just make them feel good

 

2. The massage client is quite often in a relationship or situation where they are neglected physically. ie- married to female , stagnant boyfriend, or maybe they have a job that is strenuous or where they are constantly having to make important stressful decisions all day and for the duration of the session they just want to let go~feel pampered and be self indulgent on a small quiet scale.

 

3. Sexual arrousal is okay but is not paramount & often “my” clients are more interested in a little frottage or in some cases not even that. And it’s okay ? as long as they leave feeling better mentally and physically...mission accomplished. A release at the end doesn’t really even amount to what i would define as sex. Thats also a very physical way of releasing tension. So it does complete a very good sensual massage in a positive way .

 

Now this is strictly my own views and i know i am not nor do i pretend 2 B an expert in all things “massage” but i have been doin it a long time and i have asked many questions thru the years.

 

At one point i did post an ad on rentman. And this is how i came to my version of the differences between the two .

Practically EVERY client that contacted me from Rentmen had specific requests and interests and what they expected out of a session. And that is OK too !

But the client is still in control .

 

Now some will say, “Hey wait a minute, I want to be a sub and I’m looking for somebody to dominate me and tell me what to do!” And you might be thinking well the client is giving up control of the session in that scenario!!

Not so ... The client is still determining what he wants/gets from the escort. And if that client goes into the session and mrEscort X doesn’t perform in exactly that manner, guess what ? The client most likely will end the session early . Still the client is in control .

That’s not to say that a client wouldn’t walk out of a bad massage early also. But the only time I’ve ever had that happen is when a client came to me for a massage mistakingly thinking that I was an escort posing as a masseur . Anyways i dont give bad massages !!

Also, I do not advertise anymore on Rentmen so that clients don’t see me playing different roles and getting confused about the services that I offer.

I know some guys do both, and I am not in anyway suggesting that there is any thing wrong with that. But I prefer for myself the energy exchange between me and the client through the healing power of a massage.

I connect better in that situation. And I like to stay in control.

What can I say? I guess I’m a control freak. ??‍♂️

 

Now, have my massage is sometimes resulted in some hot intense sex? Yes of course . But again I like when things unfold naturally regarding sexual contact. I’m not the kind of person that makes a laundry list of requirements prior to sex.

 

I also found out about myself very quickly after I first started doing massage, that I really enjoy healing another person’s body thru touch!!

 

When I started doing massage It was only by accident because I had lost (like so many others) my job when Bush Left office and I couldn’t find work. My self-esteem was very low from constant rejection for employment.

My friend who was already doing massage brought me into it . And Once I started doing massage, I felt better about myself because I was helping others feel better too.

 

Since that time I have massage I think I Estimated about 5000 or more & I never looked back .

Personally, I’ve hired both. Escorts and Masseurs.

They both bring something of interest to me to the table. But when I make those purchases, I shop around to get exactly what I want. And so should you.

Don’t get too upset if it takes a few tries. Chalk it up as a learning experiencee.

I have found that some of the most memorable experiences I’ve had were completely by accident and when I toss all my Pre-requisites to the wind & take a leap of faith.

With that i say to you ...Peace and happy hunting !!! ✌️?

 

Certainly nothing for me to object to! We are on the same page - just that I am on the client side!

 

AND THANK YOU FOR THIS “ A release at the end doesn’t really even amount to what i would define as sex. Thats also a very physical way of releasing tension. So it does complete a very good sensual massage in a positive way .”

 

SO TRUE - as evidenced by the fact that until my mid 50s I always ejaculated SPONTANEOUSLY during a good massage - never erect, seldom a chub - mostly when totally flaccid - I would have. Swirling full body orgasm with intense feeling and semen would just flow like lava from my flaccid penis.

 

Now, if the masseur wishes to provide more at the end, I would ejaculate again.

Edited April 5, 2019 by HornyRetiree

[+ Just Sayin]

I know i will prolly get ridiculed for making this statement so before i do let me qualify it first by saying There are so many ways of doing a session. Whether it is an escort vs. masseur keep in mind that you have every right to get exactly what you desire and should definitely “shop” around before making a decision. Having said that just remember that this shyt aint rocket science and sometimes you may not even know what you TRULY like or want until u have experienced it for the first time and then all of a sudden, something clicks and ur saying to yourself, “hey...i really dig that and wanna try that again!”

So here goes my very watered and oversimplified analogy of the difference between an Escort vs. Masseur ...

 

With an Escort - the client controls the session / with a Masseur- the client gives up control of the session to the masseur .

 

Now before some of you get ur “panties” all in a bunch on this , (lol) ? hear me out .

When i first started doing massage 10 years ago , i was so green . I was scared i would make a mistake . I kept trying to figure out what the client wanted . And after i had seen a number of clients it became apparent to me these 3 things:

 

1. The client wants to let go and relax and not think about much in a massage . They want you to give their body the attention it needs and deserves without having to be a director. They seldom want chit chat during that period . Just make them feel good

 

2. The massage client is quite often in a relationship or situation where they are neglected physically. ie- married to female , stagnant boyfriend, or maybe they have a job that is strenuous or where they are constantly having to make important stressful decisions all day and for the duration of the session they just want to let go~feel pampered and be self indulgent on a small quiet scale.

 

3. Sexual arrousal is okay but is not paramount & often “my” clients are more interested in a little frottage or in some cases not even that. And it’s okay ? as long as they leave feeling better mentally and physically...mission accomplished. A release at the end doesn’t really even amount to what i would define as sex. Thats also a very physical way of releasing tension. So it does complete a very good sensual massage in a positive way .

 

Now this is strictly my own views and i know i am not nor do i pretend 2 B an expert in all things “massage” but i have been doin it a long time and i have asked many questions thru the years.

 

At one point i did post an ad on rentman. And this is how i came to my version of the differences between the two .

Practically EVERY client that contacted me from Rentmen had specific requests and interests and what they expected out of a session. And that is OK too !

But the client is still in control .

 

Now some will say, “Hey wait a minute, I want to be a sub and I’m looking for somebody to dominate me and tell me what to do!” And you might be thinking well the client is giving up control of the session in that scenario!!

Not so ... The client is still determining what he wants/gets from the escort. And if that client goes into the session and mrEscort X doesn’t perform in exactly that manner, guess what ? The client most likely will end the session early . Still the client is in control .

That’s not to say that a client wouldn’t walk out of a bad massage early also. But the only time I’ve ever had that happen is when a client came to me for a massage mistakingly thinking that I was an escort posing as a masseur . Anyways i dont give bad massages !!

Also, I do not advertise anymore on Rentmen so that clients don’t see me playing different roles and getting confused about the services that I offer.

I know some guys do both, and I am not in anyway suggesting that there is any thing wrong with that. But I prefer for myself the energy exchange between me and the client through the healing power of a massage.

I connect better in that situation. And I like to stay in control.

What can I say? I guess I’m a control freak. ??‍♂️

 

Now, have my massage is sometimes resulted in some hot intense sex? Yes of course . But again I like when things unfold naturally regarding sexual contact. I’m not the kind of person that makes a laundry list of requirements prior to sex.

 

I also found out about myself very quickly after I first started doing massage, that I really enjoy healing another person’s body thru touch!!

 

When I started doing massage It was only by accident because I had lost (like so many others) my job when Bush Left office and I couldn’t find work. My self-esteem was very low from constant rejection for employment.

My friend who was already doing massage brought me into it . And Once I started doing massage, I felt better about myself because I was helping others feel better too.

 

Since that time I have massage I think I Estimated about 5000 or more & I never looked back .

Personally, I’ve hired both. Escorts and Masseurs.

They both bring something of interest to me to the table. But when I make those purchases, I shop around to get exactly what I want. And so should you.

Don’t get too upset if it takes a few tries. Chalk it up as a learning experiencee.

I have found that some of the most memorable experiences I’ve had were completely by accident and when I toss all my Pre-requisites to the wind & take a leap of faith.

With that i say to you ...Peace and happy hunting !!! ✌️?

 

Dale,

 

I had never been able to think through the control issues; I was aware of them, but you did a nice job of expressing it. When I schedule a massage, I really do want to relax and be touched; when I've had a choice between a massage and an escort session, I do this internal debate and more often than not, I'll schedule the massage with the hope that there will be sensual and even erotic elements.

 

JS

[+ Keith30309]

All very good points.

I have rarely hired masseurs because it doesn’t give me the level of gratification I’m looking for. I agree that (good) masseurs have a unique skill and devote allot of energy into satisfying their clients physically.

 

But I want to make an emotional connection with someone with whom I share some chemistry that is manifested in kissing, cuddling and us BOTH receiving enjoyment from the giving of pleasure to the other.

I love watching/hearing/feeling/smelling/tasting my parter enjoy himself and I love feeling emotionally trusting enough to allow him to give me the same pleasure.

The escorts who are the best of the best have a level of empathy, emotional intelligence, skill, patience and intuition to enable that to begin to occur relatively quickly. This is a rare and special combination and I have allot of respect for these guys. This is one of the hardest jobs out there.

I’ve met masseurs who can push my physical buttons but never met one who can go to that next level. At least in the context of a massage session.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Keith30309

[bigjsd]

Dale said a lot of cool stuff here...

 

Thanks for the reply. I understand what you are getting at. I am trying to play both sides of that fence by saying "I know what I want to happen" but also "I want it to just happen without my explicit instruction."

 

I have experienced the not knowing I liked something until it was presented to me -- and that's always great. I've also experienced a lot of massage sessions that were scheduled as massage, but turned into something else (with M, T and W). I've found massage therapists (W and T) that very seamlessly (I might say organically) move from massage to something else with little to no verbal direction, which is what I like. I get to relax and enjoy. They rightfully earn my repeat business. I've still not found that experience with a masseur that I know is out there. I have found masseurs that move from one thing to another, but not the thing that I really wanted (but didn't ask for and didn't know if it was available).

 

At any rate, I have some more direction on my homework -- so thanks for all the replies.

[LivingnLA]

Interesting comments. I've studied bodywork for many years. It's one of many hobbies that fascinates me. I've been fortunate enough to work with Olympians and pro athletes. In the USA, any genital contact for compensation is illegal. Quite a few Asian massage styles incorporate many things Westerns would call erotic. It's all about intention. Those clients who expect or demand certain things, will frequently not find what they're looking for because nobody likes to be disrespected or treated poorly.

[Rod Hagen]

You might want to look for someone who has over ten years massage experience with dozens of positive reviews and also has two decades of escort experience with well over 100 positive reviews. Now, where could you find such a man?????

[GTMike]

You might want to look for someone who has over ten years massage experience with dozens of positive reviews and also has two decades of escort experience with well over 100 positive reviews. Now, where could you find such a man?????

Hahaha...Funny, well played.

[mike carey]

Now, where could you find such a man?????

Indeed, I wonder where?

[caliguy]

Over the years I have found the best solution, for me, to be a well trained Masseur who will deliver an excellent massage along with oral & anal. 90 minutes has ranged from $100 - $160.

That's a good deal since it's full-on sex you're talking about.

[LookingAround]

I Whether it is an escort vs. masseur keep in mind that you have every right to get exactly what you desire

 

Ummmm, no you don’t. I know clients want you to say that and it helps with marketing but it’s a very naive and untrue statement.

[+ DALE CRUZE]

Im anxious to hear your side of the argument as to why not . Why does a client not have the right to shop around and find exactly what they want . Put all the naïveté and marketing bs aside please cuz that was a mis characterization of my statement. Please elaborate on your argument. ?

[+ DALE CRUZE]

Good One !! ???

[marylander1940]

If you want a good massage go for a good masseuse. Most don't offer sex though. If you want an escort get an escort.

 

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