Incall/Outcall Hidden Camera concerns?

[Guest davebk]

While I have always known when hiring incall that there was a risk of security cameras (though hard to access) or the escort posting a camera somewhere in the room, the risk has always been pretty low. A camera would have to be placed pretty precisely and the escort would have to take a lot of care to be sure it was in the right place and so were we. So I've never thought much about it.

 

With the addition of so many wifi cameras, Ring, Nest, etc., I'm now starting to seriously reconsider doing incall appointments with escorts. I'm wondering if anyone else has thought about this. Firstly, I hire because I want discretion and anonymity, and I take the precautions necessary for that. Secondly, I don't want my exchange to end up being something on an amateur site to make some quick cash (or none at all). Going to an escort's place seems the most risky because wifi cameras can be pretty easily concealed (or not). Then hotels as well, it seems that it is easier now to place them on a shelf or in luggage where they wouldn't be as easily noticed. Outcall to me seems likely the best option to avoid this. Though I wonder if escorts worry about the same thing in outcalls?

Edited March 26, 2019 by Guest

[LaffingBear]

I had a rentguy arrive at my place. Scanned the room, touching, moving things, saying he was looking for cameras. Was concerned about the little LED light on my TV. Turned a few items around. Then refused to remove his shades and cap . I threw him out.

 

While I was annoyed by that guy, particularly the hat and sunglasses, I think its a legit concern, for in or out, client or hired. For some unscientific evidence of hidden-camera prevalence... visit any porn website.

 

My preference has always been my hotel room if traveling, or his hotel room if he was visiting my area. Never my home. I've rethought that, and have been willing to host at my place.

[+ tassojunior]

Hotel rooms would be much less likely.

 

But houses or apartments......more likely everyday. I have security cameras in almost every room and yard. (They're like $25 on Amazon and take 10 minutes to hook up). I have signs on every entrance door warning of that. If I'm 5000 miles away I check them regularly and 3 days are recorded and downloadable on each one. I don't try to turn them off but do try to remember to cover the bed one when an escort comes over. My #1 knows and waves at the cams.

 

It's just a fact of life today that security cams are everywhere. I would suggest asking if there is one and if so for it to be turned off or covered.

[marylander1940]

Hotel rooms would be much less likely.

 

But houses or apartments......more likely everyday. I have security cameras in almost every room and yard. (They're like $25 on Amazon and take 10 minutes to hook up). I have signs on every entrance door warning of that. If I'm 5000 miles away I check them regularly and 3 days are recorded and downloadable on each one. I don't try to turn them off but do try to remember to cover the bed one when an escort comes over. My #1 knows and waves at the cams.

 

It's just a fact of life today that security cams are everywhere. I would suggest asking if there is one and if so for it to be turned off or covered.

 

yes, even on the streets as Jussie Smolett discovered, we're always on camera.

 

I think @davebk is more concerned about hidden cameras in a room for the enjoyment of the client later or for the escort to blackmail guys that hired him.

 

I used to have an acount on xtube and I recognized a few escorts having sex with someone with his face blurry in a hotel room. The guy was bragging about all the hot guys he gets on his trips. He forgot to mention he paid them and filmed them without their consent. Some fraternities required for initiation seeing a vide of the guy banging a "hot chick". A friend of mine is a Dean and asks his daughter NOT to ever have sex in someone else's room, bf, hookup, etc... He said to her "you only know you're not being filmed when you're in your room".

 

 

 

[+ tassojunior]

yes, even on the streets as Jussie Smolett discovered, we're always on camera.

 

I think @davebk is more concerned about hidden cameras in a room for the enjoyment of the client later or for the escort to blackmail guys that hired him.

 

I used to have an acount on xtube and I recognized a few escorts having sex with someone with his face blurry in a hotel room. The guy was bragging about all the hot guys he gets on his trips. He forgot to mention he paid them and filmed them without their consent. Some fraternities required for initiation seeing a vide of the guy banging a "hot chick". A friend of mine is a Dean and asks his daughter NOT to ever have sex in someone else's room, bf, hookup, etc... He said to her "you only know you're not being filmed when you're in your room".

 

 

 

Yep, I tried that cam. The problem with ones like that are they have dark shaded plastic over the cam making the vid dark. I mostly have mine out. By the time they see it a burglar would be saved online anyway and it should discourage burglars to see them everywhere.

 

And it gets better vids of my #1 uncovered.

[marylander1940]

Yep, I tried that cam. The problem with ones like that are they have dark shaded plastic over the cam making the vid dark. I mostly have mine out. By the time they see it a burglar would be saved online anyway and it should discourage burglars to see them everywhere.

 

And it gets better vids of my #1 uncovered.

 

Good point but this kind of cameras belonged to spy movies before and now they're available on ebay/amazon.

 

Technology always gets better if there's intere$t,

[+ sync]

How gullible am I? To me it looks like a clock I would expect to see on a night stand.

[Guest davebk]

Well @marylander1940 you have now sufficiently scared the shit out of me. Seems like outcall to my hotel room only is in my future - or an escort I already know or know by very strong reputation.

 

Damn.

[marylander1940]

Well @marylander1940 you have now sufficiently scared the shit out of me. Seems like outcall to my hotel room only is in my future - or an escort I already know or know by very strong reputation.

 

Damn.

 

Please, it wasn't my intention at all! you're more likely to win any money on the lotto.

 

Unless you're famous or closeted in a small town you have nothing to worry. I know a guy in Detroit who was blackmailed by 2 escorts because one of them said he got HIV from him. He went to the cops and they wanted to arrest them as soon as possible. The guy felt sorry and decided just to ignore them.

 

Btw, great thread!

[+ Travis69]

And it gets better vids of my #1 uncovered.

We hear about #1 quite often but have no idea what he looks like. Inquiring, envious and dirty minds would at least like a photo from the neck down. Please, please, please!!!!!:p:p (Help make this discussion even more interesting!!):p:p

[+ azdr0710]

I agree with Travis.....a discreet picture of this mythical "#1" would do a lot to increase your credibility!!

[+ tassojunior]

We hear about #1 quite often but have no idea what he looks like. Inquiring, envious and dirty minds would at least like a photo from the neck down. Please, please, please!!!!!:p:p (Help make this discussion even more interesting!!):p:p

also @azdr0710

 

Here's one of him I posted a year ago:

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/prague-zurich.138103/page-4

 

My #2

https://www.boytoy.com/forums/topic/28221-my-best-find-in-a-while/?tab=comments#comment-173005

 

and David, my #3

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/prague-zurich.138103/page-10

Edited March 26, 2019 by tassojunior

[+ Travis69]

also @azdr0710

 

Here's one of him I posted a year ago:

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/prague-zurich.138103/page-4

 

My #2

https://www.boytoy.com/forums/topic/28221-my-best-find-in-a-while/?tab=comments#comment-173005

 

and David, my #3

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/prague-zurich.138103/page-10

Thank you.:p:p

[+ FrankR]

Good point but this kind of cameras belonged to spy movies before and now they're available on ebay/amazon.

 

Technology always gets better if there's intere$t,

Amazon actually lists the "best sellers"! https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Camera-Photo-Hidden-Cameras/zgbs/photo/12909791

[LaffingBear]

Unless you're famous or closeted in a small town you have nothing to worry

I think it depends on what one can imagine worrying them....

 

Im not the least bit worried about blackmail. Im not closeted, and have zero fear of being outed.

 

We live in an age where people like sharing stuff online. For no reason other than being able to do it. Maybe chuckle at the recorded behavior. Maybe just the peculiar 21st century thrill of doing what everyone else does.

 

Go to a porn site. E,g. Xvideos.com. search "hidden" ... there are pages and pages.... every manner and scenario. I'll bet there are tens of thousands of clips.

 

I'd be mortified if my naked ass or sexual interactions appeared online. And angry at the privacy violation.

[rvwnsd]

No, I am not concerned. While it is certainly possible that a guy could be videoing an encounter, it is also possible that I could be videoing the encounter, also. To me, it works like mutually-assured destruction as a deterrent against nuclear war.

[marylander1940]

Amazon actually lists the "best sellers"! https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Camera-Photo-Hidden-Cameras/zgbs/photo/12909791

 

Boys will be boys, after all we have a pussy-grabber President voted by religious conservatives. (end sarcasm)

[robberbaron4u]

Smile.

[RealAvalon]

While I have always known when hiring incall that there was a risk of security cameras (though hard to access) or the escort posting a camera somewhere in the room, the risk has always been pretty low. A camera would have to be placed pretty precisely and the escort would have to take a lot of care to be sure it was in the right place and so were we. So I've never thought much about it.

 

With the addition of so many wifi cameras, Ring, Nest, etc., I'm now starting to seriously reconsider doing incall appointments with escorts. I'm wondering if anyone else has thought about this. Firstly, I hire because I want discretion and anonymity, and I take the precautions necessary for that. Secondly, I don't want my exchange to end up being something on an amateur site to make some quick cash (or none at all). Going to an escort's place seems the most risky because wifi cameras can be pretty easily concealed (or not). Then hotels as well, it seems that it is easier now to place them on a shelf or in luggage where they wouldn't be as easily noticed. Outcall to me seems likely the best option to avoid this. Though I wonder if escorts worry about the same thing in outcalls?

I expect that most guys that hire escorts are less likely to be posted onto the web (would you want to watch you?) and more likely to be blackmailed … I'm NOT suggesting that would happen … just that it's more likely.

[+ E.T.Bass]

I figure I'm not doing anything I'm ashamed of and seriously doubt anyone would post my massage sessions in the cloud. I'm no John Travolta, speaking hypothetically.

[+ ArVaGuy]

This happened to me about ten years ago back when such cameras were less ubiquitous and more clunky. I noticed he kept looking over at the desk in the hotel room. When he noticed I was curious he would reposition and distract my view at the desk. A few weeks later I discovered his website and it had several videos. Mine wasn’t among the collection and he maintained the site for a while then retired.

 

If this happed today I’m just likely not to even care. Like @E.T.Bass im not ashamed of anything I’m doing and may find it exhilarating.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

In an unregulated, somewhat wild west industry, you've got to take a lot of things into consideration before jumping in head-first.

 

If you have a lot to lose, don't make incredibly stupid decisions. Stop for a second. Think a few steps ahead. Make wise choices.

[+ oldNbusted]

My worst escort experience had a webcam set up in his hotel room, so it's a legitimate concern.

[+ tassojunior]

Amazon actually lists the "best sellers"! https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Camera-Photo-Hidden-Cameras/zgbs/photo/12909791

 

again, when going for these super-stealth cameras, dark plastic over the camera lens makes it too dark really for indoors. a Catch22.

 

some of these don't have that cover and a normal cam out of it's holder is solid black and about silver-dollar size.

 

I stick with the Yi brand from Amazon because of the size, interchangability with Ring outdoor housing, sd card slot, and how easily the cam comes out of the holder. It's software is also good. Not sure 1080p is better than 720p.