ESCORT VS MASSAGE

[MidwestMarc]

I'm an escort and solely market myself on RentMen. I can do massage as part of the experience but I see myself as an escort. I seem to still get a lot of requests for just naked erotic massages ranging from 50-100 and it turns out to be a big time waste for potential clients and myself. Aren't there websites for those that do the rub and tug massage?

[Kevin Slater]

My experience is that guys asking for a massage are usually just looking to pay less for an escort.

 

Kevin Slater

[marylander1940]

My experience is that guys asking for a massage are usually just looking to pay less for an escort.

 

Kevin Slater

 

Bingo!

 

It’s interesting how they ask: “will you be naked during the erotic massage, are there any limits?”

[Alex Maverick]

Bingo!

 

It’s interesting how they ask: “will you be naked during the erotic massage, are there any limits?”

My experience is that guys asking for a massage are usually just looking to pay less for an escort.

 

Kevin Slater

This is pure gold. I want to post it in my profile.

[+ nycman]

My experience is that guys asking for a massage are usually just looking to pay less for an escort.

I agree....usually.

 

However, when I first started hiring I intentionally sought out an escort that offered both.

I would hire him for one hour of massage and one hour of escorting. It wasn’t to save money.

It was because I was still very young and nervous about the whole “money for sex” thing.

The one hour massage allowed me to calm down a little bit and open up.

 

Instead of wham bam...it was more of a mentoring relationship. I happen to love massage

and I love fucking. It was a nice way to combine both. And although I am not the innocent

child I once was, I would love to find that type of arrangement again. A provider that can do

both skillfully is incredibly rare.

 

So yes, “usually” you are right.....but not always.

[+ robear]

I get your frustration, @MidwestMarc, but you might consider editing your profile to eliminate the mention of massage. I read profiles as a menu of possibilities, but also a reflection of the provider's intentions. There are a number of actual masseurs who advertise on rent.men, and offer an erotic massage session as an option. OTOH, there are many "masseurs" on masseurfinder, rentmasseur, etc. who have very limited massage skills, but provide more freeform encounters.

[+ 7829V]

I agree....usually.

 

However, when I first started hiring I intentionally sought out an escort that offered both.

I would hire him for one hour of massage and one hour of escorting. It wasn’t to save money.

It was because I was still very young and nervous about the whole “money for sex” thing.

The one hour massage allowed me to calm down a little bit and open up.

 

Instead of wham bam...it was more of a mentoring relationship. I happen to love massage

and I love fucking. It was a nice way to combine both. And although I am not the innocent

child I once was, I would love to find that type of arrangement again. A provider that can do

both skillfully is incredibly rare.

 

So yes, “usually” you are right.....but not always.

This is me too. I’ve only hired escorts 2 times. And never works for me. I prefer erotic massage first. Then maybe build up from there. But I would never ask for full service if I’m paying masseur rates. It has happened several times that’s I get full service

but is organically and is the maseur thay encourages to go further.

[marylander1940]

This is me too. I’ve only hired escorts 2 times. And never works for me. I prefer erotic massage first. Then maybe build up from there. But I would never ask for full service if I’m paying masseur rates. It has happened several times that’s I get full service

but is organically and is the maseur thay encourages to go further.

 

 

You're a gentleman!

[Bacon]

My experience is that guys asking for a massage are usually just looking to pay less for an escort.

 

Reminds me of the old saying —don’t buy the cow if you can get milked for free (I’m paraphrasing here).

 

Personally, from guys only advertising on massage sites I’ve had some massages turn into a full escort service, massages ending in a little mutual touching and HE and massages providing pretty decent muscle therapy . . . all for the massage rate. I don’t expect “full service” or a “boyfriend experience” from someone advertising only on massage sites, and am typically content with a decent massage, something pretty to look at, and maybe a few sensual elements. It’s a nice treat if more happens (and if I’m into it as well). Moreover, I’m typically too shy to make the first moves with someone I’ve never seen before, so in just about every instance what happens during the massage session has been instigated by the provider. I guess it’s a two-way street.

[Phil_musc]

Ah but what about all those great "massage" videos that so many of us have seen and loved? Apparently this is a pretty common fantasy I think.

[+ Mplsgymguy]

When I first began getting massages, I was caught off guard but was pleasantly surprised by the whole “happy ending” thing. And that’s as much as I hoped for - for a while. I’m afraid I’ve become spoiled by a few legitimate CMTs who are not on Rentmen but who give a massage that is more than sensual and sometimes segues into what could only be called “full service.” In every case it’s been initiated by the masseur; I neither expected nor asked for it (but I’ve tipped them big-time). At the same time, soneone on here wrote about his experience with one of the masseurs I’m referring to and said his experience was strictly therapeutic. So one’s mileage definitely will vary.

[Rod Hagen]

You're always going to receive requests for (cheaper) massage appointments, regardless of where they saw your listing, especially if you mention massage in your ad, and even if you don't.

 

If you plan to escort for years then one solution is to spend some time and money training in massage. After that, list yourself on massage sites, and give massages (at the lower rate). 1. It's extra money. 2. It ultimately increases your escort business. How? If the client both likes you and wants more of you he'll hire you for the escorting appointments going forward. If he's satisfied with the massage, well you have a new massage client and that's good too.

Edited March 21, 2019 by Rod Hagen

[prof]

When I first began getting massages, I was caught off guard but was pleasantly surprised by the whole “happy ending” thing. And that’s as much as I hoped for - for a while. I’m afraid I’ve become spoiled by a few legitimate CMTs who are not on Rentmen but who give a massage that is more than sensual and sometimes segues into what could only be called “full service.” In every case it’s been initiated by the masseur; I neither expected nor asked for it (but I’ve tipped them big-time). At the same time, soneone on here wrote about his experience with one of the masseurs I’m referring to and said his experience was strictly therapeutic. So one’s mileage definitely will vary.

The fact that you're a "gymguy" probably helps!

[+ keroscenefire]

I love providers that do a massage that turns into a sex. That's why I particularly like https://jamesstevensde.squarespace.com and met with him while he was in Denver. He's very upfront with what he does and articulates it very well in his writing. And his 90 minute session accommodates that perfectly. Personally, I am happy to pay slightly more for a longer session if it comes with both a relaxing massage and some wonderful intimate time with a sexy dude. It helps that James knows what he is doing in both regards, but it's surprising that more who do don't advertise themselves in that way.

[+ Balthazar]

I've also had experiences during which masseurs have spontaneously gone more of an escort route. I wonder what escorts think about these providers. Masseurs tend to charge significantly less than escorts, so some guys might choose to go with a massage that will potentially escalate. Does this affect escorts' business?

[+ HornyRetiree]

I love providers that do a massage that turns into a sex. That's why I particularly like https://jamesstevensde.squarespace.com and met with him while he was in Denver. He's very upfront with what he does and articulates it very well in his writing. And his 90 minute session accommodates that perfectly. Personally, I am happy to pay slightly more for a longer session if it comes with both a relaxing massage and some wonderful intimate time with a sexy dude. It helps that James knows what he is doing in both regards, but it's surprising that more who do don't advertise themselves in that way.

WOW! Great to know about James Stevens!!! That 16 hour session with 3 meals is a marvelous opportunity for 1(k) — with a perfect male specimen - appears that he has a great personailty to go with it.

[+ Mplsgymguy]

The fact that you're a "gymguy" probably helps!

 

Maybe. But my point is that there are legitimate, skilled masseurs who may cross over into escort territory without any prompting from their client. As mentioned, I can’t say if they do this all the time; in my experiences it has seemed pretty spontaneous, with the exception of one masseur who quoted me a very steep price for *just* a massage, but it turned into an experience I would’ve expected with an escort.

[+ HornyRetiree]

Maybe. But my point is that there are legitimate, skilled masseurs who may cross over into escort territory without any prompting from their client. As mentioned, I can’t say if they do this all the time; in my experiences it has seemed pretty spontaneous, with the exception of one masseur who quoted me a very steep price for *just* a massage, but it turned into an experience I would’ve expected with an escort.

Not a gym bunny here!:) and very average cut Bear with a few extra pounds - I have had several massage experiences where a much younger, hot masseur as smoothly incorporated sexual components ( anal & oral) into what was supposted to be therapeutic massage :) It isn’t only the body! These mature “grandpa” shining blue eyes and smile get them often:):)

[prof]

Not a gym bunny here!:) and very average cut Bear with a few extra pounds - I have had several massage experiences where a much younger, hot masseur as smoothly incorporated sexual components ( anal & oral) into what was supposted to be therapeutic massage :) It isn’t only the body! These mature “grandpa” shining blue eyes and smile get them often:):)

I was not speaking exclusively or literally because I have had similar pleasant & unanticipated encounters, despite not being "gym dandy."

[Walker1]

I like a really good massage. I started erotic massages before hiring escorts. But I am not that fond of mixing. I don't like rub and tugs. I do like a good massage by a hot nude muscle that results in some hanky panky. Very few who can give a good massage and make it an erotic experience too.

 

To OP perhaps have an escort price and a massage price if interested to adding a skillset?

[bigjsd]

Maybe. But my point is that there are legitimate, skilled masseurs who may cross over into escort territory without any prompting from their client. As mentioned, I can’t say if they do this all the time; in my experiences it has seemed pretty spontaneous, with the exception of one masseur who quoted me a very steep price for *just* a massage, but it turned into an experience I would’ve expected with an escort.

 

I don't personally care about price, this is what I'm looking for. Only prompting from the client (me) being them reading the situation and 'taking charge.'

 

Also, for the inexperienced (me), massage is gateway intimate contact. If I knew how to 'shop' better or read advertisements better, this would make my life easier.

 

edit: I'd rather overpay for a massage then pay for a massage then be presented with a "pay me X for Y" -- I'd rather have my expensive massage fee cover it up front.

[bigjsd]

Maybe. But my point is that there are legitimate, skilled masseurs who may cross over into escort territory without any prompting from their client. As mentioned, I can’t say if they do this all the time; in my experiences it has seemed pretty spontaneous, with the exception of one masseur who quoted me a very steep price for *just* a massage, but it turned into an experience I would’ve expected with an escort.

 

I don't personally care about price, this is what I'm looking for. Only prompting from the client (me) being them reading the situation and 'taking charge.'

 

Also, for the inexperienced (me), massage is gateway intimate contact. If I knew how to 'shop' better or read advertisements better, this would make my life easier.

 

edit: I'd rather overpay for a massage then pay for a massage then be presented with a "pay me X for Y" -- I'd rather have my expensive massage fee cover it up front.