Sugar Is KILLING Us - Seriously

[+ MasssageGuy]

Type 1 is difficult. I know of some people who got off medication from type 2 by a strict diet and exercise and losing weight. My cousin and a few acquaintances. Also know a few people who no matter what they do, never get off type 2 either.

 

Type 1 is tough though-I know one person who got it as a teen. If they ever make insulin shots in the form of a pill-it might be easier!

 

Is the World Running Out of Insulin? Shortages Could Leave Millions of Diabetics Without Treatment

Millions worldwide may be unable to access the drug by 2030, scientists predict

 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/world-running-out-insulin-shortages-could-leave-millions-diabetics-without-1229125

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/20/insulin-shortage-could-affect-40-million-people-with-type-2-diabetes

[Rudynate]

Is the World Running Out of Insulin? Shortages Could Leave Millions of Diabetics Without Treatment

Millions worldwide may be unable to access the drug by 2030, scientists predict

 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/world-running-out-insulin-shortages-could-leave-millions-diabetics-without-1229125

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/20/insulin-shortage-could-affect-40-million-people-with-type-2-diabetes

 

 

I don't understand that. Insulin is produced by big biotechnology companies like Genentech from genetically modified bacteria in big fermentation vats. If you need more, bring more production facilities online. Especially since they just got more than 10 years' advance notice of the need.

[Guest europeanman]

Sugar is killing us. Sugar in fruits is equally bad. My physician told me that the old motto "fruits and vegetables" is "vegetables" only. She says that I should treat fruits like candy. A very small portion rarely. She suggests a diet of protein, salads, vegetables and natural fats.

[+ MasssageGuy]

I don't understand that. Insulin is produced by big biotechnology companies like Genentech from genetically modified bacteria in big fermentation vats. If you need more, bring more production facilities online. Especially since they just got more than 10 years' advance notice of the need.

 

Interesting video on how it is manufactured.

 

Yes, you need to wonder if supply is being kept low to drive prices up. There are only three manufactures from what I understand.

[+ MasssageGuy]

Sugar is killing us. Sugar in fruits is equally bad. My physician told me that the old motto "fruits and vegetables" is "vegetables" only. She says that I should treat fruits like candy. A very small portion rarely. She suggests a diet of protein, salads, vegetables and natural fats.

I disagree with your physician. All sugars are not to same. All the fiber in fruit is very beneficial and eating an apple will satiate you much more than a fizzy drink.

[Guest europeanman]

I disagree with your physician. All sugars are not to same. All the fiber in fruit is very beneficial and eating an apple will satiate you much more than a fizzy drink.

We get fibre from vegetables. Apples have too much sugar and carbs, check the data. And the only fizzy drink I have is San Pellegrino.

[+ PapaTony]

Sugar is killing us. Sugar in fruits is equally bad. My physician told me that the old motto "fruits and vegetables" is "vegetables" only. She says that I should treat fruits like candy. A very small portion rarely. She suggests a diet of protein, salads, vegetables and natural fats.

I don’t believe your doctor is well informed.

https://nutritionfacts.org/2017/02/23/can-you-eat-too-much-fruit/

[+ OliverSaks]

No one I’ve ever met binges on apples or oranges or bananas, which have a decent bit of sugar.

 

People consume fruit juices and sugary drinks in huge quantities.

 

FIBERRRRRR // whole fruit doesn’t equal just another sugary treat

[+ easygoingpal]

So, a friend of mine died yesterday of mismanaged health issues... He was overweight, had diabetes, had a heart condition, and had also some liver problems. I would sit down with him for breakfast at a local Denny's and give him kind advice as to the benefits of eating healthy. However, it was hard for him to break old habits and would usually order the big slam along with a coke...

 

I'm in the 165-170# range at 5'10", but starting today I am cutting off sugars from my diet. I am stating this at least publicly in this forum, so that I feel compelled to stick to this eating/drinking change. I will report in a month or two to share what I experienced. My best to all you kind forum members...!

[Guest europeanman]

I don’t believe your doctor is well informed.

https://nutritionfacts.org/2017/02/23/can-you-eat-too-much-fruit/

I think she is, otherwise I would not keep her as my physician

An apple has about 30grams of sugar. I consider this too much. The only fruit I eat are blueberries.

[MikeBiDude]

I think she is, otherwise I would not keep her as my physician

An apple has about 30grams of sugar. I consider this too much. The only fruit I eat are blueberries.

Your doctor and you are dismissing the fiber benefits of fruit. Maybe it’s the European paradox.

[Guest europeanman]

Your doctor and you are dismissing the fiber benefits of fruit. Maybe it’s the European paradox.

I get my fiber from vegetables. European paradox? Do you mean the French paradox?

[Rudynate]

I don’t believe your doctor is well informed.

https://nutritionfacts.org/2017/02/23/can-you-eat-too-much-fruit/

 

 

Calories are calories, whether they come from bluberries or cheese danish. If one consumes enough fruit to create a calorie excess, he will gain weight. My fitness coach just designed a weight gain diet for me. Where did some of the excess calories come from? Fruit and fruit juices.

[MikeBiDude]

Calories are calories, whether they come from bluberries or cheese danish. If one consumes enough fruit to create a calorie excess, he will gain weight. My fitness coach just designed a weight gain diet for me. Where did some of the excess calories come from? Fruit and fruit juices.

True that...excess calories not good.

 

But I saw a doctor on TV at some point in my past...that had an ounce of Hershey’s chocolate and an Apple side-by-side.

Although the same calories (for this discussion say 125) the Apple had far greater benefits, “burned” some calories by virtue of digestion via its fiber, no fat etc.

 

So yes “calories are calories”, fruits have sugars, but smarter choices make a difference too.

[MikeBiDude]

I get my fiber from vegetables. European paradox? Do you mean the French paradox?

I know what I meant

[+ OliverSaks]

True that...excess calories not good.

 

But I saw a doctor on TV at some point in my past...that had an ounce of Hershey’s chocolate and an Apple side-by-side.

Although the same calories (for this discussion say 125) the Apple had far greater benefits, “burned” some calories by virtue of digestion via its fiber, no fat etc.

 

So yes “calories are calories”, fruits have sugars, but smarter choices make a difference too.

Different foods (which may have same calorie content) most certainly have different effects on the body, including influence on weight.

 

The effect on the endocrine system, and gut microbiota, and the reward/motivation circuits in the brain (and neurohormones) all may differ even if caloric content is the same.

 

The body is not a bomb calorimeter.

[Rudynate]

I know what I meant

 

 

But you can effectively neutralize the positive effect gained from the smarter choices by consuming the smarter choices in excess. Moderation is an important element of any healthy meal plan. I think even Gary Taubes would agree with that.

[marylander1940]

I get my fiber from vegetables. European paradox? Do you mean the French paradox?

 

yes, French paradox. Eating bread with butter but having low cholesterol because of red wine, right?

[Rudynate]

Different foods (which may have same calorie content) most certainly have different effects on the body, including influence on weight.

 

The effect on the endocrine system, and gut microbiota, and the reward/motivation circuits in the brain (and neurohormones) all may differ even if caloric content is the same.

 

The body is not a bomb calorimeter.

 

 

And yet, on a diet of Big Macs, the individual, if he reduced the number of big Macs he ate in a day enough to produce a calorie deficit, he would lose weight.

[LivingnLA]

Raw fruits are absolutely beneficial. The research is substantial for the benefits of "real natural food."

 

I'm not talking about fruit juices or anything processed. I'm talking about 100% all natural fruits.

 

Our bodies are not calorie counters. A calorie is a calorie in a thermodynamic sense but research continues to hammer home: the "packaging" (how it's cooked or not, eaten whole, etc.) of that calorie matters far more than the number of calories in many cases. The only time counting calories really matter is when losing or gaining weight. Otherwise, it's not a critical aspect of nutrition. The "total package" is much more important.

 

Moderation matters in all aspects of life. So do diversity and variety. Eat many vegetables and fruits every day. And that means all of the fruit or vegetable that's edible. Don't just juice it.

 

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/vegetables-and-fruits/

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/raw-veggies-are-healthier/

 

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/895545

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3649719/

 

https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/healthy_eating/fruits_vegetables.html

Edited November 26, 2018 by LivingnLA

[LivingnLA]

And yet, on a diet of Big Macs, the individual, if he reduced the number of big Macs he ate in a day enough to produce a calorie deficit, he would lose weight.

 

He would, until he had another major health problem caused by eating so terribly. His gut microbiome would be horrifically damaged. His cardiovascular health would probably decline substantially.

 

It's possible to eat relatively well at McDonalds as this story shows, but he wasn't eating hamburgers, let alone Big Macs. This woman nearly died because she only ate chicken nuggets is the more likely scenario for someone who only ate Big Macs.

[Rudynate]

 

Our bodies are not calorie counters. A calorie is a calorie in a thermodynamic sense

 

And human bodies are subject to the Laws of Thermodynamics. I'm not arguing that other aspects of nutrition aren't vital to health. I'm arguing that it's all for naught in the absence of moderation. I saw a young man over Thanksgiving, whom I have known since he was approximately ten years old. He has always been on the chubby side. The last several years he has got religion about eating right and goes to rather extreme lengths to eat clean. The thing is, when I saw him over the holiday, he was the heaviest I've ever seen him. When he got religion about eating right he some how missed the Gospel of Moderation.

[MikeBiDude]

Gospel of Moderation.

Amen!

[Guest europeanman]

yes, French paradox. Eating bread with butter but having low cholesterol because of red wine, right?

Yes the study from the 70s that compared inhabitants of Paris and Boston. The Parisians smoked more, drunk more, ate the so called unhealthy fat and lived longer

[Rudynate]

Raw fruit are absolutely beneficial. The research is substantial for the benefits of "real natural food."

 

I'm not talking about fruit juices or anything processed. I'm talking about 100% all natural fruits.

 

Our bodies are not calorie counters. A calorie is a calorie in a thermodynamic sense but research continues to hammer home: the "packaging" (how it's cooked or not, eaten whole, etc.) of that calorie matters far more than the number of calories in many cases. The only time counting calories really matters is when losing or gaining weight. Otherwise, it's not a critical aspect of nutrition. The "total package" is much more important.

 

Moderation matters in all aspects of life. So do diversity and variety. Eat many vegetables and fruits every day. And that means all of the fruit or vegtable that's edible. Don't just juice it.

 

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/vegetables-and-fruits/

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/raw-veggies-are-healthier/

 

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/895545

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3649719/

 

https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/healthy_eating/fruits_vegetables.html

 

If I were a physician and I had an overweight patient and the patient asked me, "Doc, what is the single most important thing I can do to achieve a healthier weight," I would tell him to eat less. I wouldn't tell him to eat more fruit.