Anderson Cooper's Boyfriend

[+ deej]

>It gives me a bad vibe Jay.

 

Saying you saw somebody in public gives you a bad vibe?

 

Gosh, I guess nobody should say who they saw wandering around Hollywood last weekend. :9

[Yeswell]

My main problem with Anderson Cooper is that he's just not very good. And yes, I am completely out on the job and always have been. It depresses me to hear gay men accept the double standard. When a straight man says "I have a wife" nobody takes it as a personal revelation or a comment about his sex life. The same should be apply for us. If I say I'm gay that's just a fact about me; if I say whom I fuck and what we do that's information about my sex life. We shouldn't be complicit in a double standard that serves only to keep gay people on the margins.

[Guest PWIT]

>>It gives me a bad vibe Jay.

>

>Saying you saw somebody in public gives you a bad vibe?

>

>Gosh, I guess nobody should say who they saw wandering around

>Hollywood last weekend. :9

 

Come on Deej, do you really think I was stating the vibe came from seeing somebody in public?

[Guest]

>I didn't expect that response from an escort Tom. Are you

>not in the secret keeping business? Confirmation of an outing

>from an escort gives me a bad vibe.

 

First of all, Tom isn't even Anderson Cooper's escort (or if he is, he isn't saying). Secondly, he's recounting a story of Anderson Cooper kissing another guy in public in broad daylight. If Tom were discussing his activities with Anderson as an escort, that would be an issue. However, what Anderson does in public is certainly fair game for public discussion. When a person does something in public, he completely waives his rights for confidentiality. (Same for Elijah Wood going to gay bars, etc.)

[+ deej]

It's all I can figure out.

[Jay Ganymede]

Exact same impression here. I don't get it is an escort not allowed to say they saw someone kiss someone in public because it violates some rule of discretion.

[Guest zipperzone]

>I didn't expect that response from an escort Tom. Are you

>not in the secret keeping business? Confirmation of an outing

>from an escort gives me a bad vibe.

 

Nothing wrong with what Tom said. He did not out a client. He simply told us what he saw on a public street in broad daylight. Hundreds of people could have seen it, so Coop wasn't trying very hard to conceal it.

[Guest zipperzone]

I have checked into this a little further. AC did admit to being gay prior to his rise to prominance at CNN. It was only after he became a household name that he started to be secretive.

 

I think it is entirely possible that it was CNN who decided he should change his stance on this subject. A little (or a lot) of speculation is probably good for the rateings. And let's face it. The bottom line is the only thing CNN (or any other network) gives a shit about.

[RockHard]

RE: Anderson Cooper Causes Depression

 

"My main problem with Anderson Cooper is that he's just not very good. And yes, I am completely out on the job and always have been."

 

Silly sentence structure. What one has to do with the other is beyond me.

 

Considering his competition, I think Anderson Cooper is a star. (Some people have opinions but that doesn't mean they know anything.)

 

"It depresses me to hear gay men accept the double standard."

 

Nobody said life was fair. Take a Paxil and don't ever call me in the morning.

 

"When a straight man says "I have a wife" nobody takes it as a personal revelation or a comment about his sex life."

 

Only at a Chelsea bar can a gay man get away with saying that line to someone. And if you don't realize that, you leave yourself open to looking like a fool.

 

"The same should be apply for us."

 

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Here, have a tissue...and another Paxil. There's no such thing as a perfect world.

 

"If I say I'm gay that's just a fact about me"

 

And probably not many people care about "you." When you have a career like Anderson Cooper—working and earning a sizable income in a very large, public corporation—the rules are different. Smart men know how to play by the rules and renegade militants are good for stirring up the status quo. Choosing sides is a personal decision and should NEVER be forced upon anyone.

 

"We shouldn't be complicit in a double standard that serves only to keep gay people on the margins."

 

Gay people will always be on the margins. Complicity has nothing to do with a minority status. Keep on dreaming of your gay utopia and don't forget to take your Paxil.

[+ Tom Isern]

Thanks guys for playing defense on my behalf!! You've done such a wonderful job I don't feel the need to add much, except this: As an escort I AM in the business of keeping secrets--everything and anything related to my clients. The fact that I was willing to write about AC can assure everyone that he is NOT (and unfortunately for me!) my client.

 

Anderson, in case you read this: NO CHARGE. And if you don't want me to tie you up, that's okay. If you don't want to be completely dominated we can even negotiate that. Or if you're just nervous, know that I'm very gentle with beginners--if you tell me to be. So give me a shout: 917-902-2835.

[IceFireWizard]

>It gives me a bad vibe... This is not a thesis and I do not

>feel the need to defend a personal perspective. Granted,

>vibes are subjective and it is not intended as an an argument

>to convince others to have the same view. It is my personal

>vibe and whether deemed unworthy by others is really not my

>concern.

 

I agree with you. I've got a bad vibe from his fake review of Carlos Morales.

[+ Tom Isern]

I have no idea, IceFireWizard, why you would accuse me of writing a fake review, but it’s ugly and offensive. There is little that I dislike more than being called a liar. If you are a person of any integrity, you will reply with an apology.

[IceFireWizard]

>being called a liar

 

Some people need a reality check

 

http://www.shop4dollsandbears.com/photos/MagicAtticMirror-2T.jpg

[+ Tom Isern]

Here's a reality check for you, jerk.

 

Below is (in order) copied directly from my Outlook inbox: 1. Carlos's response to me 2. A note with/copy of the review I forwarded to him informing him that I had written a review.

 

If you'd like, I could also forward to you a copy of the picture I took of Carlos that evening--it's actually even mentioned in the review. I'm sure my digital camera will even provide the time/date stamp to match the exact date of the review--I wrote it and submitted it the night of the threeway.

 

 

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This is a ver cool review.

I would hire me...and you.

Anyway, thanks for letting me know.

It was cool to meet you too.

Let's do it again,

 

Carlos

----- Original Message -----

From: "tophunk" <tophunk@nyc.rr.com>

To: <carlos@carlos-morales.com>

Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 1:34 PM

Subject: [spam] FW: Carlos Morales (Review)

 

 

Carlos,

I wrote a review for you for the hooboy site and am sending it to you now.

I hope you like it. If there is anything you don't like, just let me know

and I'll change it...

Tom

 

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12579 - 2006-04-24 21:07:52 Yes

 

Name: Carlos Morales

Location: New York City

Roles: Escort

Orientation: Gay Calls: Not Sure

 

Website:

Email: carlos@carlos-morales.com

Phone: 310-435-9659

 

Ethnicity: Latino Age:

Height: Weight: Build: Muscled

Eyes: Hair: Average Dark Brown

Body Hair: Smooth Facial Hair: Smooth

Cock: Thick

 

Kissing: Yes Masturbation: Both

Oral: Both Anal: Bottom Kink:

Tattoos: Piercing:

Smoking: No Drinking:

 

Rates for time only (US $)

1st=300 2nd= Overnight= Daily= Session=

 

Date: 04/2006 Type: 1 Hour Rate: 300

Rating: Recommended Hire Again? Yes Match Description? Yes Lived up? Yes

Reviewed Before: Yes

Where Found? Which: http://www.rentboy.com

 

Experience: I hired Carlos for a three-way with a regular client. This

client and I have done many three-ways over the past year—it is his

favorite format. I enjoy it too! He is fairly passive, loves to watch,

suck, get sucked, and have the other escort sit on him. He likes to watch

me fuck the other escort, so we almost always hire versatile or bottom guys.

His big thing is to have both escorts shoot on his chest. He’s a nice

guy, as well, which makes for enjoyable sessions. I\'m always happy when I

see his number on my cell--one of the numbers I know by heart.

 

Given Carlos’s fame as a porn star, I expected him to be cocky and maybe a

little full of attitude. From the moment he entered my apartment, he was

not just friendly, he was sweet. No attitude at all. He arrived wearing a

baseball cap that made his amazingly boyish face even sexier. His hair,

which he claimed was “out of control†because it was long, made him look

like a Latin or Greek Hercules. He let me take his picture while in my

bathroom—that’s a keeper!

 

I grabbed Carlos and rubbed my rock-hard cock between the melon-size cheeks

of his adorable bubble ass right before climbed onto my bed and buried his

face onto the cock of our client. You can imagine the view of that ass I

was treated to. Carlos has the kind of body I like to rub my hands all

over—the smoothest skin, sculpted torso, legs, ass. The tongue follows.

 

When Carlos climbed up to kiss our client, I climbed on top of him,

sandwiching him in between us. His face lit up like a firecracker, and his

ass ached its way upward against my engorged cock. They were grinding, cock

to cock. My client and I wrapped our arms around each other, pulling the

three of us into a tight, cozy sandwich. My cock against Carlos’s hot

ass…I could tell: This is a man/boy who loves, loves, loves to get fucked

(almost as I love to deliver it).

 

Carlos dispelled a myth I was carrying around for some reason. I assumed

that porn star escorts who are bottoms must get loose. His was the

smoothest and deepest ass I’ve been inside in a long time--like a warm,

wet, glove. And Carlos knows how to work those muscles. His ass grabbed

onto my cock and massaged it the full length, massaged it from tight to

slippery, from loose to resisting. If there were degrees given for bottoms,

this is a Ph.D.

 

While I was fucking him Carlos was swallowing our client’s cock, driving

him to fits of ecstasy. I was bent over Carlos, fondling the client’s

balls. At one point the client was on his back, his legs over Carlos’s

shoulders, Carlos buried on his cock, and I was using the client’s legs,

pulling on them to thrust as deep as I could into that magic ass, winking

into my client\'s eyes. I could tell from the moans that we were all three

in paradise.

 

I always keep a close watch on this client to see if he’s enjoying himself

and over the past year I’ve learned to read him pretty carefully. This

session was one of the best. He and I have our interaction down to a

careful, synchronized routine—Carlos even noticed and commented. But as

my client said, Carlos fit into our act like “mayonnaise between toast.â€

And it was mayo that we left on his chest--just the way he likes it.

 

 

 

Handle: tom isern

Submissions: First Review

Previous Reviews:

 

You: New York City-based escort. I have several clients who ask me to hire

other escorts for groups and three-ways, so I thought I\'d start reviewing

the really good ones.

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[+ Tom Isern]

A "p.s." to the above:

 

If you (or anyone else) would like a copy of the original e-mail posted above, I'd be happy to forward it--complete with all hyperlinks in place. You can confirm the dates yourself. I'll send it with the photo.

[IceFireWizard]

>Here's a reality check for you, jerk.

 

Thank you for calling me a jerk, Tom.

 

 

>If you'd like, I could also forward to you a copy of the

>picture I took of Carlos that evening.

 

No need for that, I know Carlos Morales. The problem is that your review does NOT reflect the reality.

[+ Tom Isern]

The reality is: I had a GREAT FUCKING TIME working with Carlos Morales.

 

If you're bitter about something between the two of you, that should stay between you. Or post your own review. It has NOTHING to do with my review.

 

It was wrong and unjust of you to imply that I had lied or made it up. You as much as called me a liar and did so in public.

 

Now you're going to play bruised because I called you a jerk for it? I still haven't heard an apology?? Grow up and take some responsibility for your mistake. You also told me that I needed a "reality check." Believe me, there were a host of more provocative things I wanted to call you.

 

And, I am going to go ahead and post the picture of Carlos if someone offers to host it. He's hot. The thread will benefit from it. And I'm sure he won't mind.

[Guest PWIT]

>>I didn't expect that response from an escort Tom. Are you

>>not in the secret keeping business? Confirmation of an

>outing

>>from an escort gives me a bad vibe.

>

>Nothing wrong with what Tom said. He did not out a client. He

>simply told us what he saw on a public street in broad

>daylight. Hundreds of people could have seen it, so Coop

>wasn't trying very hard to conceal it.

>

>

I have no problem with what is seen on the streets guys...my issue was with "Anderson "openly" dated a gay male friend of mine for several months last year." To me, that was the confimation of the outing that gave me the bad vibe. It was just a vibe folks - just a comment - nothing more. Hell, I still have Tom on my 'to-do' list. Again - it was a vibe - nothing in need of defense. I think everyone has gotten so use to barbs on here they immediatly feel all comments are stated with piss & vinegar.

[twinkboylover28]

Can we all just get back to bashing me?

 

Thank you.

[Luv2play]

RE: Anderson Cooper Causes Depression

 

>Gay people will always be on the margins. Complicity has

>nothing to do with a minority status. Keep on dreaming of your

>gay utopia and don't forget to take your Paxil.

 

Coming from a different country, I would challenge your assertions that gay people are doomed to being forever marginalized. Here in Canada, gays have made amazing progress in achieving equal rights and acceptance by society at large of these rights which mainstream straights have always enjoyed.

 

In a mere 40 years we have gone from a situation where gay men could be arrested for having sex with another man in a private setting to one where gays have the right to marry and enjoy all civil rights which straights are entitled to in their private and public lives.

 

Of course, these changes have evolved over time and the right to marry is very recent. Attitudes in places are still behind the curve but this too will change.

 

As for Canadian public figures who are gay, we now have politicians who are "out" and not just token. In Quebec the leader of the opposition party, who stands a good chance in becoming premier one day, is a gay man of 39 years of age. In all parties there are gay politicians who are "out", even at the federal level and even in the so-called "conservative" parties.

 

Canadian gays have fought the same battles as American gays since Stonewall but with more success. Each country is different and it cannot be said that America will ever evolve to the place where Canada is now. But I wouldn't say never. Who knows? It will be up to the Americans themselves, particularly those in positions of public influence who will help determine the outcome. When these people fail to step up to the plate, it only retards that process.

[Luv2play]

I don't think Tom's juicy gossip about AC "openly" dating a gay friend of his is betraying any confidence. If AC had said to his gay friend, "please don't let Tom say anything about us" and his friend had asked Tom to protect this info, then I would criticise Tom for what he has stated. But that doesn't appear to be the case here.

 

As others have said, we all expect escorts to be discreet about their clients but that is where the obligation ends. Beyond that everything is fair game as long as it is truthful. At least, that's the way I see it.

[RockHard]

RE: Twisting the meaning of words.

 

"I would challenge your assertions that gay people are doomed to being forever marginalized."

 

Why do so many gay men, especially those who participate here, take other men's words and twist them to mean something else, mostly negative, and then proceed to write a diatribe based on false assumptions?

 

I never said anyone was "doomed." And my use of the noun "margin" has an entirely different meaning than the transitive verb "marginalized."

 

My simple little statement did not require deep introspection or deserve any degree of black-cloud analysis. It was based on simple math. 10% is only 10%, no matter how you slice this gay cake, and calling another man "wife" is going to sound stupid and feel silly for the majority of heterosexuals in this world for quite some time.

[Yeswell]

RE: Twisting the meaning of words.

 

It's hard to know where to begin. First of all, I never suggested that gay men should call their boyfriends or lovers or partners their wives. But as I have to spend a certain amount of time at work explaining things to pompous pontificators of limited intelligence and as being on this website shouldn't be work, I'll just say that although I never said life is fair, we should try to make things fairer if we can. Surely that's the important point here.

[edjames]

I'd like to remind folks, that this is not the first thread on this list concerning AC's sexuality. He's been spotted at the Roxy, Provincetown and many other places which lend credence to his preferences, all of which have been documented and verified here.

Tom's posting was innocent and, for me, totally unoffensive. I thought we were having a little innocent gossipy fun here.

I'm sure AC has kept his sexuality closeted because of his business afflications. After all, he has a $2 million contract with CNN, book deals, and personal appearances, all of which generate a hefty annual salary. Coming out of the closet will not do much for him and hopefully someday when he has enough money tucked away, he'll be more open. I don't think he'd ready to write a "kiss and tell," after all, maybe there's not that much to tell! (LOL)

The thread went waaaaaay out of line and should have been kept between the offended individuals.

Just my thoughts.

[Guest icon513]

Even without his $2 million contract, etc., etc., I think it's pretty fair to assume that AC has got no money worries whatsoever to keep him in the closet. Don't forget that he's a Vanderbilt.