Open note to BN

[SAdler]

Ben,

 

I've tried being polite about this stuff by eMail but the hint doesn't seem to get across since it keeps happening over and over again. Perhaps your gossip column can do without comments like this as it creates wild accusations being thrown everywhere.

 

____________________

 

WHAT WELL-REVIEWED ESCORT is currently getting a bad name for speaking out-of-turn about his clients drug habits? It looks as if this once golden-boy is now turning a new leaf and showing his true colors in regards to his once, very private, privacy policy. How ironic that this particular stud-for-hire has a blow habit himself.

____________________

 

The HIV scare was bad enough and even you had to put qualifiers in because of mud slinging being thrown at myself and others. Stuff like this just sucks and there's no other way to say it. I've already gotten six emails on this one and you only posted it a little bit ago to my knowledge.

 

Try to think about your actions with respect to this so every "well reviewed golden boy escort with a privacy policy" doesn't get accused of a drug habit and airing dirty laundry. The probative entertainment value really doesn't justify the problems stuff like this generates.

 

I've tried to be polite and quiet about this stuff in the past but I think the topic of 15 minutes going too far some times might get your attention better. Thanks for your understanding.

 

S A

[seaboy4hire]

Scott sorry to hear that people are thinking it is you. But honestly why should Ben care? So long as he gets hits on his 15 minutes of boredom and he gets paid he is isn't going to care. Ben remember what comes around goes around. Karma can be a real bitch. Scott keep that pretty chin up.

 

Hugs,

Greg

seaboy4hire@yahoo.com http://seaboy4hire.tripod.com

CHICAGO June 14-18

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[SAdler]

I want to go on record before this gets out of hand (which I hope it doesn't) that my open note is by NO means an invitation for a bitch session on BN.

 

Some might take it as a backhanded attack on him but in reality, my intent is just to get other people's opinion on how they feel about these constant vague references to escorts. Perhaps I could be accused of not thinking of the repercussions of my actions ... but I wouldn't be the only one.

 

I've always held the opinions in terms of "gossip" that if I'm going to say something behind someone's back I will say it to their face. I'm not saying that Ben wouldn't do the same but the fact that he's willing to put other people in a negative light and promote himself doesn't bode well with me.

 

So again, my intent is not a bitch fest. Merely finding out other people's opinions on that particular part of 15 minutes ... is it worth the trouble it causes?

[Guest ReturnOfS]

Can you three cute guys work this out by wrestling nude in a small tub of body oil and let me watch

 

I'm sorry, that was baaaaaad. Just had to get it out of my system :+

[SAdler]

>Can you three cute guys work this out by wrestling nude in a

>small tub of body oil and let me watch

 

I have the tub and the oil. Send the boys to me and this will be settled

[Lookin]

<Try to think about your actions . . . Thanks for your understanding.>

 

Far from a backhanded attack, your request seems very reasonable and polite. I didn’t read the blog, but it doesn’t seem fair to “expose” someone’s health or drug issues, and tarnish others’ reputations, for so-called entertainment. I hope he’ll take your comments to heart.

 

The main reason for my post was to acknowledge the compassion you’ve shown in asking for an end to the mudslinging, and the mature way you’ve done it. Hope you won't mind my opinion that you’ve gone from a boy to a man right in front of our eyes.

 

And a hot man at that!

[LovesYng]

Scott, you really think he will answer you in here, I THINK NOT

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[SAdler]

You misunderstand ... his answer is not what concerns me nor is it relevant.

 

I'm just sick of repeating myself in private and felt that a public statement would have more impact than another private one.

 

BTW, thx Lookin

[RockHard]

RE: Is life fair?

 

"...it doesn’t seem fair to “expose” someone’s health or drug issues, and tarnish others’ reputations, for so-called entertainment"

 

SAY WHAT? Are you kidding me? NOBODY can be this naive!

 

I think her name is Cindy Adams. She doesn't believe in karma.

 

The gossips rags are among the top selling mags in America. Star Magazine outnumbers the circulation of the NYTimes.

 

Does anyone remember a model named Kate Moss?

 

Some of you girls need to get a life. Life fair? Now that's funny!

 

I suspect the only people who care about escorts and drug gossip are escorts who are guilty and the clients who fancy them. Beyond that, isn't it really anybody's guess?

 

It seems silence is the best way to promote the perception of innocence. Ask any lawyer.

 

Good luck with this one, Scott.

[Lookin]

RE: Is life fair?

 

Never said nasty doesn't sell.

 

The good news is that each of us gets to choose what he buys.

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Is life fair?

 

>The gossips rags are among the top selling mags in America.

>Star Magazine outnumbers the circulation of the NYTimes.

 

I don't read the gossip rags, but isn't the gossiping being done by so-called journalists, not fellow celebrities? If Britney were to start spreading malicious dirt about Jessica, don't you think people would assume she's doing it out of professional jealousy or some other vindictive motive?

 

>It seems silence is the best way to promote the perception of

>innocence.

 

Not necessarily. Especially around here, when you don't respond to an "attack" post, everyone assumes you're guilty as charged.

 

>Ask any lawyer.

 

But isn't it true that when someone's lawyer advises them to "take the 5th," we all assume they've got something to hide?

[Flower]

>The main reason for my post was to acknowledge the compassion

>you’ve shown in asking for an end to the mudslinging, and the

>mature way you’ve done it. Hope you won't mind my opinion

>that you’ve gone from a boy to a man right in front of our

>eyes.

 

jeeeez--I'm going to be sick!x(

[RockHard]

Not in defense of BN.

 

"I don't read the gossip rags, but isn't the gossiping being done by so-called journalists, not fellow celebrities?"

 

The term "so-called journalists" hit the nail on the head. The age of internet has blurred the lines and there's no going back. Bloggers are journalists, especially if the writing and reporting is garnering readership, and whether you like it or not.

 

Does one need to be labeled a journalist to be a journalist? Not any more. Rap stars write gossip in their lyrics, for goodness sakes, and that gossip has caused a few deaths.

 

">It seems silence is the best way to promote the perception of

>innocence.

 

Not necessarily. Especially around here, when you don't respond to an "attack" post, everyone assumes you're guilty as charged."

 

Not from where I sit. Since I fully know what "attack" around here feels like, rumors and innuendo don't change a thing about me. I'm still financially stable, extremely talented (thank God), decent looking, and gay with a son. No matter what anybody says here, my reality has not changed. And I often ignore certain "attack" posters because some assholes aren't worth a response.

 

Granted, for escorts trying to strut and preen here, perhaps ostensibly, one could argue it's a different story. But I don't think so.

 

When I worked in corporate, every jealous motherfucker had me fucking everybody to rise the ladder I was on. For years, the rumors astonished me, especially the ones surrounding my over-active sex life (I wish) and my affinity for Special K (never tried it). The rumors were spread with the simple intent to bring me down: they had no entertainment value, whatsoever. My fellow homos in show business foamed at the mouth waiting for me to fall. The fall never happened and I never once exchanged sex or used drugs for the chance to fly higher. My clients knew me better, followed me when I left to go out on my own, and remained with me ever since. Truth has its way of prevailing. (I can spot a drug addict from a pretty decent distance.)

 

Popular escorts don't have to worry about over-active sex life rumors. And I'd be surprised if any client would be shocked to learn that an escort engaged in recreational drugs. Engaging and having an addiction are two different things and I sincerely hope anyone with an addiction of any kind will seek help.

 

But a rumor is still just a rumor and until the horse says otherwise, people will go on believing what they wish to believe and there ain't much anyone can do about it. Just ask Tom Cruise. (Not too many celebrities have kept quiet about this one. I wonder, are comedians journalists?)

 

Finally, taking the Fifth is not the same as staying silent. One must speak the words in order to take the Fifth. :-)

[bigguyinpasadena]

Anton welcome back!You have been missed!

And now I know you attended the Rumsfeld school of circular knowledge while you were away!(just kidding buddy)

[Guest alanm]

RE: Not in defense of BN.

 

Rock Hard is correct that if you are in highly visible (or even moderately visable) position on the job, every possible rumor will

be out there about you.

 

My concern is that this site provides a link to BN's blog. For better or worse, Benji is free to say pretty much anything he wants to say on his blog. I read the blind item before seeing Scott's rsponse. My initial reaction was that hits must be down on Benji's blog. Good for Scott for calling BN on blind items. If Benji is willing to speculate so freely in public, imagine what he must say in private about other escorts and clients.

[SAdler]

>I don't know the details, and I don't even want to know them.

>I also don't know if you feel that the gossips are about you

>(I guess you do), but then, gossips are only gossips.

 

I don't believe the gossip is about me and that's the point, it couldn't possibly be because I don't do drugs or violate privacy. Unfortunately in this industry credibility is everything and whether or not gossip is taken for it's value, the point is when enough scandal surrounds a certain individual there may just be an aversion to see them. Case and point is found in a new client who I've become very close to but at our first meeting his exclamatory at the end, "You're Scott Adler?!!? I heard you were an asshole."

 

The point is that OTHER people are interpreting it because of how VAGUE the references are. His gossip can't even be aptly compared to page six because pages six altogether SAYS who the celeb they're talking about is without actually saying the name. His comments only involve vague terms that could apply to a lot of people, including me. Hence my point about gossip being a sad form of self promotion. If he can't call a spade a spade to its face then he shouldn't be playing cards at all.

 

>However, I do know that if people gossip about me, I'm really

>flattered. It's simple; if others gossip about me, then it

>means that I'm really someone. It means I'm not a gray person

>somewhere in the shade. It means I'm an interesting person,

>someone worth to talk about. :*

 

Oh trust me, I agree with that. I like to know that people think I'm worth talking about or starting bitchy threads about me on other boards. But the point is, there's a line that is crossed when it goes from discussing the truth about someone for the sake of discussing them to discussing lies about them as if they were truth.

[Guest 8mile]

"The point is that OTHER people are interpreting it because of how VAGUE the references are. His gossip can't even be aptly compared to page six because pages six altogether SAYS who the celeb they're talking about is without actually saying the name. His comments only involve vague terms that could apply to a lot of people, including me."[/font color]

 

Scott why then are you the only escort, whom these VAGUE references could apply to, getting their feather's all ruffled about the gossip? Or BETTER YET, why is it that your clients email you and wonder if it's you?

 

As Usual

Zachary

[FinFangFoom]

>Or BETTER YET, why is it that your clients email you and wonder if it's you?

 

ouch

 

 

Sensitively yours,

 

FFF

[RockHard]

Von Schtupping.

 

I'm completely Von Shtupped! Considering the famous IQ and the whole paying-your-way-through-college thing, I'm just baffled by most of this latest post, handsome Scott. Here goes:

 

"I don't believe the gossip is about me and that's the point"

 

Then why waste your time caring about something you can't control and isn't worth a minute of thought?

 

"it couldn't possibly be because I don't do drugs or violate privacy"

 

Then why on earth draw attention to yourself in this manner? Are you too vain, too? Unless you're defending a good friend who, with proof, has seriously been maligned (which I doubt is the case), this thread makes no sense to me.

 

"Unfortunately in this industry credibility is everything"

 

Maybe if we're talking about actual dick size, the ability to sustain an erection, being HIV positive and barebacking but bumping and tooting? Are you kidding me?

 

"the point is when enough scandal surrounds a certain individual there may just be an aversion to see them"

 

Bad breath is an aversion to see someone. A blind item in 15 Minutes that is SO vague it could be about me is nothing but a little bit of breakwind. Have you tried Phazyme? Sweetie, I've looked with a pair of tweezers: there's NO scandal here.

 

""You're Scott Adler?!!? I heard you were an asshole.""

 

But YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE, Blanche, YOU ARE! An absolutely adorable asshole. One that deserves an endless licking.

 

I can't tell you how many times I have been told that certain celebrities are assholes before I meet them only to find they're absolutely fabulous. Chemistry is everything and you never know someone until you spend a little time with them. If someone is going to pin you to some gossip that's as vague as the piece in BN's column, then I would say you encountered an idiot. Do you really need the idiot's money that badly?

 

"The point is that OTHER people are interpreting it because of how VAGUE the references are."

 

And who on this board has the power to control how OTHER people interpret things?

 

"His comments only involve vague terms that could apply to a lot of people, including me"

 

And me. So why give this flaccid cock any more attention when after 30 minutes of sucking and licking, it ain't getting hard? Really, my precious, frizzy-haired kreplach, what's up with this crap?

 

"But the point is, there's a line that is crossed when it goes from discussing the truth about someone for the sake of discussing them to discussing lies about them as if they were truth."

 

I may need Tom Isern to interpret that last sentence but my point is, handsome, WHO someone? WHICH someone? WHAT truth? If there are no roads that lead directly to you, where truth is obvious to most everyone, why give this another precious breath of life?

 

Send a private message to Benjamin and say, "Fuck you!" and then come back here and say "Nevermind!" Let's quickly get back to fantasy visuals of you both sitting on my face with my tongue darting deep into your asses. :-) The sooner the better.

[SAdler]

>Scott why then are you the only escort, whom these VAGUE

>references could apply to, getting their feather's all ruffled

>about the gossip?

 

Haven't we learned by now that I never seem to mind voicing an opinion that everyone else keeps silent about? My feathers aren't ruffled about the gossip itself. It's the means in which it is propagated. I never said it could only be about ME in the first place, I merely said that it could be about ANYONE given the decriptors including me.

 

>Or BETTER YET, why is it that your clients

>email you and wonder if it's you?

 

Because it's so vague and thus my point to Ben. If he wants to play six then he needs to play by page six's rules.

 

And the messages I received weren't "please say it's not you" or "I didn't know you did drugs." etc. The emails I received were along the lines of "Ben's at it again and you might have some damage control to deal with considering your privacy policy" and "How many golden boy escorts IS Ben in touch with?" those are direct quotes.

[Guest skrubber]

Scott- Would you rather he actually name the escort in question? I see no way how such an innocuous post should affect you in the least. If you are to berate Ben should you not also berate every slimy softcovered supermarket tabloid in existence? Your post (however polite) reeks of self promoting gibberish.

[LovesYng]

>Scott- Would you rather he actually name the escort in

>question? I see no way how such an innocuous post should

>affect you in the least. If you are to berate Ben should you

>not also berate every slimy softcovered supermarket tabloid in

>existence? Your post (however polite) reeks of self promoting

>gibberish.

 

20 post later BN's idol finally shows up

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[SAdler]

>Would you rather he actually name the escort in

>question? I see no way how such an innocuous post should

>affect you in the least.

 

Yes. Yes I would. Frankly I believe that he shouldn't have posted it in the first place. The fact that he is posting vague blurbs that could apply to certain escorts is unwarranted and simply wrong. While I appreciate all the referrals and good words he's put in for me on his newsgroup and in general, I just think this method of blogging is crossing a line of decency. It's not just me that could be targeted. Any "golden-boy escort" with a vocalized "privacy policy" is covered by those allegations and frankly it sucks.

 

My main issue is that he isn't thinking of the unseen consequences in this matter. I'm merely trying to make them more apparent to him in a forum where my message can't be ignored or deleted. To date Ben and I have been very friendly and I hope to continue that, but this is a matter I think NEEDS to be discussed.

 

>If you are to berate Ben should you

>not also berate every slimy softcovered supermarket tabloid in

>existence?

 

The point about supermarket tabloids about celebrities not being written BY the celebrities themselves was made earlier. His gossip is about his colleagues and it's frankly not his place to try and cut someone down in my opinion. That was something I'd expect from the Rico Report but not Ben.

 

>Your post (however polite) reeks of self promoting

>gibberish.

 

Please skrubber. Enlighten me how my post was even remotely self promotional and I will apologize for it. As noted by Lvs, I think your opinion here is a tad skewed. In addition, the topic is being vague and your SIGNATURE even says, "Give me ambiguity or give me something else." Kind of speaks to the fact of a pre-established opinion dont'cha think?

[+ glutes]

And where is Hawkster???

Why is anyone suprised that the Hedda Hopper of the MC has slimed another Board memeber. Dislosing clients identities and professions, as well as other escorts HIV status is not uncommon with the Right Reverend...

[Houston Bonfires]

Good ole Skrubber

 

Good Boy

 

Good Boy

 

And when BN slices and dices Nicole and Ron and all evidence points his way there will be good ole Skrubber squealing "The Glove Don't Fit, The Glove Don't Fit"

 

With an apologist like Skrubber BN can just sit back and gloat after repeatedly taking shots from behind the cover of internet darkness knowing he'll never be held accountable and will never have to explain his attacks and cheap shots. What a guy!!!

 

Good boy Skrubber

 

Good Boy

 

Good Boy