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After reading a lot about it here on the forum, weighing pros and cons with those who have one and those who've decided not to, we launched an OnlyFans page. I'm loading content on it now and it's glitchy, but working well enough. The few paying members we have after 24 hours report finding the content easily accessible. So, the only question now is will enough people care to make it worth the effort. So far, it looks promising. Will keep you posted how it goes if there's any interest in that. I will say that it is nice to be able to send prospective clients there than constantly sending photos and videos for a charge. It's way cheaper for the client's, too. So, hopefully a win win.

 

Oh, the page is https://onlyfans.com/tylersaint

Love you guys!

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That's great news. Can you describe some of the content? You guys together? You guys with other guys? Inquiring minds. Going there right now, so I guess you don't really have to answer my questions. LOL

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I have seen just a few of the only fans/just4fans pages and there seem to be a few common flaws. There are a few where the films are long enough and the perspectives close and varied enough to be satisfying. I am not sure if the sites state exactly how things may or may not be filmed but few that I have seen give the client an entire look at the action. Also it is a common flaw that the sound isn't adequate enough that you can hear the various goings on as they progress. I don't know about you but I have to hear some of what the participants are saying to each other to really get turned on. This would be particularly important with guys like Ace and Tyler where so much of the attraction is their interaction. Lighting is also something that you really have to control. If the client can't see what is going on there's not a point to much of the action. I have seen some scenes where can hardly see that there is anyone in the scene. It was sort of like filming in a hotel room with a low light on. I am sure it is nice for those doing the filming but not those who are watching. Finally, perhaps there should be a way that you find out what you are going to provide. I saw a site where a guy had a butt that was out of this world. I assumed it would be used over time for a lot of stuff beyond just showcasing. But it never was. Of course, there had never been a meeting of the minds to begin with about what was going to be provided but maybe there should have been. Then I would know whether to join or not. I know these are really basic things but as I said they were problems when I watched them. Because they were problems it just meant that I subscribed for one month and never went back.

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I've never joined OnlyFans so please excuse me for this question: how does it work?

 

If I joined Tyler and Ace's OF page, if I made a suggestion of a video for a certain fetish, would they do it? Or is it more of a access their content and they choose to add whatever material they like sort of like Patreon?

 

Tyler and Ace, I have to admit that if you two can't come to SoCal, seeing you on OF is tempting. :p

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I've never joined OnlyFans so please excuse me for this question: how does it work?

 

Or is it more of a access their content and they choose to add whatever material they like sort of like Patreon?

 

Yeah you're paying a monthly feee for content the creators choose to upload. There's a comment section for each piece of content (video, photo) uploaded. You could leave suggestions there per se, but in most cases that comes off as a subscriber complaining.

 

My only issue with OF and J4F is there's no preview of the content. So you're buying into something blindly. Some guys are great at posting previews on their Twitter accounts (Austin Wolf, BigCMen/Jared Grey) but most times it's a guessing game.

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So far I have found few sites to contain actual satisfactory content. For instance, you may see some content that is extremely short, e.g., a film may be only a minute or two. Or you may only see a longer flik but you may only get a perspective from the back while a guy is fucking another guy. So far BigCMen (for me) has had the best content where you actually see them fucking guys (or being fucked) from different angles. So, it is all what you are looking for. If there is a guy you are really attracted to you can always join for one month (they usually are in the $9 to $13) and see if contains the content that satisfies you. If not, just unsubscribe.

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I heard that just4.fans is more stable. You should consider creating an account there as well.

That’ll be next week’s challenge, I think. It’s taken a good bit of time to get stuff loaded. Their format only allows for one photo or video to load at a time. So, it’s slow. Hopefully the other one is faster

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That's great news. Can you describe some of the content? You guys together? You guys with other guys? Inquiring minds. Going there right now, so I guess you don't really have to answer my questions. LOL

Lol...well, thanks for checking it out! It’ll be a little bit of everything. We have a lot of us fucking, sucking dick, a little bondage. Lots of photos in studio and candids. Loading some of us with a third. Recruiting for more participants for that now, actually. We haven’t always recorded that as much. . Basically it’s just us in everyday life, really

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I have seen just a few of the only fans/just4fans pages and there seem to be a few common flaws. There are a few where the films are long enough and the perspectives close and varied enough to be satisfying. I am not sure if the sites state exactly how things may or may not be filmed but few that I have seen give the client an entire look at the action. Also it is a common flaw that the sound isn't adequate enough that you can hear the various goings on as they progress. I don't know about you but I have to hear some of what the participants are saying to each other to really get turned on. This would be particularly important with guys like Ace and Tyler where so much of the attraction is their interaction. Lighting is also something that you really have to control. If the client can't see what is going on there's not a point to much of the action. I have seen some scenes where can hardly see that there is anyone in the scene. It was sort of like filming in a hotel room with a low light on. I am sure it is nice for those doing the filming but not those who are watching. Finally, perhaps there should be a way that you find out what you are going to provide. I saw a site where a guy had a butt that was out of this world. I assumed it would be used over time for a lot of stuff beyond just showcasing. But it never was. Of course, there had never been a meeting of the minds to begin with about what was going to be provided but maybe there should have been. Then I would know whether to join or not. I know these are really basic things but as I said they were problems when I watched them. Because they were problems it just meant that I subscribed for one month and never went back.

You make great points. And you point out some challenges of this format vs a staged studio shoot. We don’t have a buddy to come over and film us when we start the action...nor would we want that. So, that leads to preset filming devices that have to be set far enough away to get the scene but still with some perspective for the viewer. It’s truly amateur. While that may be a turn on for some, studio Porn will always have a place just for the sheer production value.

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I've never joined OnlyFans so please excuse me for this question: how does it work?

 

If I joined Tyler and Ace's OF page, if I made a suggestion of a video for a certain fetish, would they do it? Or is it more of a access their content and they choose to add whatever material they like sort of like Patreon?

 

Tyler and Ace, I have to admit that if you two can't come to SoCal, seeing you on OF is tempting. :p

Well, that’s why we’ve done this honestly. Being in such a remote part of the country precludes us from making good connections with potential clients where they are. It’s also a way for potential clients to see what we are like in “real life” before hiring us. We ain’t cheap!

 

So, yes, it’ll be what you’re saying. It’s a small enough community there that we can take requests and make them happen. One client has already asked for an underwear show. Lord knows we have plenty of that to show off. Will be working on that over the weekend for posting. Otherwise, it’s just a look at our sex life on a day-to-day basis. But, it’s really amateur and lots of POV recording...along with studio photography and plenty of snapshots around henhouse or where we are traveling

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Yeah you're paying a monthly feee for content the creators choose to upload. There's a comment section for each piece of content (video, photo) uploaded. You could leave suggestions there per se, but in most cases that comes off as a subscriber complaining.

 

My only issue with OF and J4F is there's no preview of the content. So you're buying into something blindly. Some guys are great at posting previews on their Twitter accounts (Austin Wolf, BigCMen/Jared Grey) but most times it's a guessing game.

Yeah, I’ve looked at what Austin Wolf and BigC are doing. Geniuses at this form of promotion. I’m trying to do that a little, but it’s super time consuming. They obviously invest heavily and do a fantastic job at it. I/we don’t exactly have that luxury, but hope to come up with a version of our own that works for guys to make an educated decision.

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So far I have found few sites to contain actual satisfactory content. For instance, you may see some content that is extremely short, e.g., a film may be only a minute or two. Or you may only see a longer flik but you may only get a perspective from the back while a guy is fucking another guy. So far BigCMen (for me) has had the best content where you actually see them fucking guys (or being fucked) from different angles. So, it is all what you are looking for. If there is a guy you are really attracted to you can always join for one month (they usually are in the $9 to $13) and see if contains the content that satisfies you. If not, just unsubscribe.

And there is a way to preview the content for short time free of charge. If you DM me, I’ll be happy to sign you on to ours for a couple days. That way you aren’t taking a chance. You just have to have an account there and give me the username.

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You make great points. And you point out some challenges of this format vs a staged studio shoot. We don’t have a buddy to come over and film us when we start the action...not would we want that. So, that leads to preset filming devices that have to be set far enough away to get the scene but still with some perspective for the viewer. It’s truly amateur. While that may be a turn on for some, studio Porn will always have a place just for the sheer production value.

 

I certainly understand the challenges of this sort of video. I think many people are totally satisfied with an amateur feel to vids but as you note there has to be some visibility for the viewer. I wish I could help you in that arena. As you note, there are some producers that seem amateur but either have a third person helping to film (actually that has been sexy in that in many that I have seen the third person films and is the third person that takes part in the sex - not sure if the two of you ever allow that to happen as a couple) or in some way are there by themselves and yet film so that it seems amateur but you see everything (e.g., Beefcake Hunter). Or then there are the Maverickmen who do the filming themselves with a third person taking part in the sex. I guess a lot of it is in the editing. It still has the amateur film. At any rate, obviously people want to see you and I am sure your site will be a success.

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I certainly understand the challenges of this sort of video. I think many people are totally satisfied with an amateur feel to vids but as you note there has to be some visibility for the viewer. I wish I could help you in that arena. As you note, there are some producers that seem amateur but either have a third person helping to film (actually that has been sexy in that in many that I have seen the third person films and is the third person that takes part in the sex - not sure if the two of you ever allow that to happen as a couple) or in some way are there by themselves and yet film so that it seems amateur but you see everything (e.g., Beefcake Hunter). Or then there are the Maverickmen who do the filming themselves with a third person taking part in the sex. I guess a lot of it is in the editing. It still has the amateur film. At any rate, obviously people want to see you and I am sure your site will be a success.

Might happen that we have the opportunity to have an extra set of hands sometime. May just have to have multiple cameras....and learn how to edit! LOL

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Might happen that we have the opportunity to have an extra set of hands sometime. May just have to have multiple cameras....and learn how to edit! LOL

 

You will I am sure. And you are going to like seeing each other have passionate love. I don't think using multiple cameras is too hard and then editing the footage. It will get people to tune in because they will see the two of you see what really happens. Also might hire you outside to see the real thing.

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You will I am sure. And you are going to like seeing each other have passionate love. I don't think using multiple cameras is too hard and then editing the footage. It will get people to tune in because they will see the two of you see what really happens. Also might hire you outside to see the real thing.

Hoping that’s the case. Will be fun learning, at least. Should be a fun adventure !!

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Congrats and best wishes with the new venture.

Thank you! Fingers crossed. Definitely learning a lot

Tyler, I’ve watched every massage video you’ve done. If you read the phonebook naked I’d subscribe. Justfor.fans is way more user-friendly but I’ll take you anyway you want. Your partner is just icing on the cake. Where’s my credit card?

Well, he’s blushing a little with that, I think! Thanks for the kindness and we’ll definitely keep you entertained! Let us know what you’d like to see and we’ll do more of it!

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One of the things that I have seen only once and not with a lot of enjoyment involved was when Tyler played a bottom. I think it was with Tyler Reed (I could be wrong).

Do you intend to be versatile on your new sites? I' m also in agreement that all of Tyler's massage videos (and maybe the Jake Cruise vids - he just looks great) are wonderful.

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One of the things that I have seen only once and not with a lot of enjoyment involved was when Tyler played a bottom. I think it was with Tyler Reed (I could be wrong).

Do you intend to be versatile on your new sites? I' m also in agreement that all of Tyler's massage videos (and maybe the Jake Cruise vids - he just looks great) are wonderful.

Well, since we are versatile with each other during sex and these videos are of our life together, then we will definitely show me fucking him. He’s just as good of a bottom as he is a top, so it would be a shame to leave out that part. There are already several loaded. . Trying to figure out if we want to continue the massage genre. Everybody cites those as favorites.

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Well, since we are versatile with each other during sex and these videos are of our life together, then we will definitely show me fucking him. He’s just as good of a bottom as he is a top, so it would be a shame to leave out that part. There are already several loaded. . Trying to figure out if we want to continue the massage genre. Everybody cites those as favorites.

 

Generally people will let you know one way or another. That all sounds really great. I have been somewhat disappointed by other sites I have joined because they don't really expand the types of things they encompass. Not they have to go crazy but you have to do one or two alternatives to keep people interested. It is always nice to feel the relationship between you two. Any way I won't bother you anymore ( until I see you on your site). : )

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