Protocol question

[MisterMike]

Mike most of the times here clients are over enthusiastic and in seventh heaven after the session! In that zeal they pay 100/200% more! I say tighten the pant so that it doesn't keep dropping in front of hot guys with greedy character!

 

I'm not sure I agree with the statement "most of the time..." because I have never offered a 100% tip, and have actually never heard of anyone else doing so, especially on a $400 session. But I'm open to being wrong. It just seems excessive, especially if you don't have the intention or means to repeat it.

Edited June 14, 2018 by MisterMike

[Aaron James]

To clarify, it was 400 for the meet and extras (e.g. oral) were negotiable, so I had to give more than 400. 600 probably would have done it but he put in an awesome show, so an additional 400 in the post orgasm haze felt reasonable.

 

Lesson of the day - always be clear up front what you’re paying and what you’re paying for

[Kenny]

Thoughts? Am I being a dick? Or is he?

He’s a dick. You’re just crazy.

[Aaron James]

Yup

[+ azdr0710]

To clarify, it was 400 for the meet and extras (e.g. oral) were negotiable, so I had to give more than 400. 600 probably would have done it but he put in an awesome show, so an additional 400 in the post orgasm haze felt reasonable.

 

Lesson of the day - always be clear up front what you’re paying and what you’re paying for

 

this clarification changes things a good bit.......

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[biggerbilly]

To clarify, it was 400 for the meet and extras (e.g. oral) were negotiable, so I had to give more than 400. 600 probably would have done it but he put in an awesome show, so an additional 400 in the post orgasm haze felt reasonable.

 

Lesson of the day - always be clear up front what you’re paying and what you’re paying for

So 400 just to meet up without oral? While I definitely understand muscle worship, I will never understand the price tag.

[Aaron James]

You haven’t seen the guy....

[caliguy]

You haven’t seen the guy....

I agree with you. Yeah he's a total dick but people just need to understand this is what hot people do. If you can't afford it don't be a hater.

[biggerbilly]

You haven’t seen the guy....

 

I agree with you. Yeah he's a total dick but people just need to understand this is what hot people do. If you can't afford it don't be a hater.

 

I wasn't talking about the idea of muscle worship, but not understanding the price tag in general. Not calling out @Aaron James for paying that rate, but the fact that that is the rate.

 

Not trying to come off a hater. But yes, I don't have an unlimited expense account. I have a decent job, but I'm in a place where I still I have to spend wisely. So I take prices into account when it comes to hiring. I'm happy for the many on here that have the ability to fly out anyone they want from wherever they are, without any worries.

 

I can only speak from my life experiences. If that makes me come of as a hater, I'm sorry.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

I wasn't talking about the idea of muscle worship, but not understanding the price tag in general. Not calling out @Aaron James for paying that rate, but the fact that that is the rate.

 

Not trying to come off a hater. But yes, I don't have an unlimited expense account. I have a decent job, but I'm in a place where I still I have to spend wisely. So I take prices into account when it comes to hiring. I'm happy for the many on here that have the ability to fly out anyone they want from wherever they are, without any worries.

 

I can only speak from my life experiences. If that makes me come of as a hater, I'm sorry.

I would ignore caliguy, he always writes nasty stuff.

your surprise at the price tag is understandable, that doesn’t make you a hater.

I think Aaron likes that particular guy so much that he is happy to spend on him.

[caliguy]

I would ignore caliguy, he always writes nasty stuff.

your surprise at the price tag is understandable, that doesn’t make you a hater.

I think Aaron likes that particular guy so much that he is happy to spend on him.

I would think most would've gotten the snark. Thanks for the compliment though.

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Edited June 15, 2018 by caliguy

[+ purplekow]

Well, $400 to show up and $400 to go down. It makes sense that the extra was for oral because after you gave him a generous tip, he totally fucked you. So there you go. Wise to skip him after that second time, as you have already decided.

There are hotter sausages in the delicatessen, go find one of those and use that $800 for several hours of fun.

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

I don't think anyone is being a dick. I think that there were just some major wrinkles in the communication. Trust me, I have been there all hopped up on hormones and neurochemicals, making some rash/foolish decisions that in the clear light of day, I thought twice about.

 

I have found that the (few) times I have hired fitness models or other guys who only do it on the rare occasion that I have to be CRYSTAL fucking clear about what it is that I expect, and what those expectations are going to cost.

 

My experience has been that guys on the "outside" of the industry (ie anyone who escorts as a hobby or on the rare occasion) have no real clear idea of what the market is bearing. Also they generally have nothing to lose by quoting ridiculous rates, because it's not their livelihood.

 

I have been camming with a former Sean Cody model for a year or so (no, I won't tell you who) and we have a great relationship. I broached the subject a few months ago of a live meet-up knowing that he was going to be in town this summer. He was always kind of coy about telling me what he would charge. When I finally pressed him on it he wanted $1500 FOR A FUCKING HOUR! This was for basic oral and muscle worship! I literally laughed out loud when he quoted me that rate. When I pushed back he said "I can count on one hand how many times I have been with a dude outside of my SC days. I have no incentive to be with a guy for anything less". Upon further conversation, it turns out, the first time he ever was "hired" by a guy, the dude paid $1500. So, in his mind that's the going rate and he could give two shits about anyone balking and saying no, because it's not something he relies on.

 

WHEW! This was a bit long winded and tangential, but my point is that IMO dudes (specifically these specialty hires) are gonna charge what they can get, or think they can get and the rest of us are SOL. Just because you tipped him very generously and are now shocked/put off by him expecting that, doesn't make you a hater. And just because he now expects that rate, doesn't make him a dick. It just sounds like some very skewed expectations and a lack of clear communication.

 

Also, I never tip. Even dudes who I repeat with. Gifts and meals and tokens from time to time, yes. But never a tip.

[Cruiser7]

 

WHEW! This was a bit long winded and tangential, but my point is that IMO dudes (specifically these specialty hires) are gonna charge what they can get, or think they can get and the rest of us are SOL. Just because you tipped him very generously and are now shocked/put off by him expecting that, doesn't make you a hater. And just because he now expects that rate, doesn't make him a dick. It just sounds like some very skewed expectations and a lack of clear communication.

 

Also, I never tip. Even dudes who I repeat with. Gifts and meals and tokens from time to time, yes. But never a tip.

 

No, it wasn’t, and was honestly interesting. Besides, this is a discussion/message board. If people don’t write and tell these sorts of stories, what’s the point? I found it very interesting and relevant FWIW.

[hornytwells]

Am wondering at the part where it seems that $400 was his base rate for just being there, and extras on top of that were negotiable, was that right? If so, its not beyond the bounds of comprehensions for the escort to assume that all the extra stuff you did amounted to another $400 and therefore if you wanted a repeat performance he assumed it would be the same fee? I know that might be a stretch, but its also a stretch to give 100% tip. I feel if you give that amount of extra on the first meeting, you are shooting yourself in the foot for any subsequent meets. For example if the escort didnt get the same amount next time he might have wondered what had gone wrong, and it could put a damper on all subsequent meets. Seems like communication was maybe unclear

[marylander1940]

okay, so I met a guy about 6 months ago. He’s a fitness model so I expected to pay a premium. I paid 400 and because he put on a good show, gave him another 400. Possibly a bit generous but hey.

 

So I just saw him again and he asked for 800. He just assumed I would give him the same.

 

I gave him 600 and we’ll probably never meet again as it’s left a sour note.

 

Thoughts? Am I being a dick? Or is he?

 

I'm surprised he remembered 6 months later that you paid him 800.

 

It's always a good thing having the rate clear from the beginning.