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I think part of this is a trend away from online discussion forums like this overall. In a way this is a relic from another age, the early age of the internet. Now there are so many other diversions, particularly social media. I tell both clients and other escorts about this site, and usually I get a blank stare that indicates no interest. Or a half-hearted "I'll check it out" but no follow through.
Unfortunately for some providers, their introduction to this site is not positive. There will be a discussion of a guy in the Deli or Spa section, and people will pile on with nasty comments. Then someone from this forum (for reasons I'll never understand) contacts the provider to let him know what's happening. The poor guy is mortified, sets up an account to defend himself, but then is never heard from again. There is a sense from some posters here that "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen" and so they leave the kitchen. Who needs that kind of grief in their life?
Providers being providers, they'll also want to know what's in this for them. Will they get clients from this site? Hard to tell. So if they're looking at this as something transactional, the upside is questionable.
For me, I enjoy the discussions and have enjoyed the many interesting people I've met on here, but I can't say it's been a huge boost to business. Don't get me wrong, I have met some wonderful clients here, and I'm grateful for that! They tend to be the best of the best. But the vast bulk of my clientele come from Rentmen, and they've never heard of this site. All that said I enjoy my time here, but also recognize I'm unusual. 
The question of how to get more working guys participating here has been ongoing, and I'm not sure what the answer is. Hopefully my remarks here don't sound too cynical or jaded, it's just my take on things.

The contributions we get from providers here are highly valuable, although the number that do is small.  I want more providers to comment and participate on the forums. Having them participate creates less of an echo chamber. When we see a provider comment, often it is to clear up a misconception or defend themselves in a post - they are greeted warmly with "welcome to the fourm!" and then promptly disappear.  I see pile ons here and think 'this is why they don't'. 
So my question to the group is: 
1. Why do you think we don't see more providers post, and 
2. What can we do to encourage more of them to join in. 
(I am especially curious to hear from @Simon Suraci @nate_sf @GentJ Why do more of your colleagues not post here?) 

Has anyone met up with this profile? It’s clearly Hungskater if it’s real, but Im not so sure.
He asks for an up front $200 deposit and will not FT or snap to verify. It feels like it’s fake, but could be real.
 
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I have been hiring for 13 years, and have the same issues as the OP. I am always well groomed, well dressed, polite, and friendly. I never disclose my age or weight, and neither do I disclose my profession, or domestic situation prior to meeting, nor have I ever provided a photograph or deposit. I have always hired young, attractive guys, and I have never been declined.  My sincere delight in my hire's youth and beauty becomes evident in our playtime, and memories of the experiences bolster my self-image.
My thoughts: be confident, and have the requested payment on hand. I think very few guys will refuse you. And have fun!

I'm sorry that you felt/feel this way. There's so much pressure to be young in gay culture. It's quite sad because we internalize these pressures and it robs us of enjoying our lives as fully as we could. 

This cannot be emphasized enough. If you look at providers' posts on here, the most common complaint is that a client isn't hygienic. 

I didn't yuck anyone's yum. My opinion is that he's "meh," which is actually the same as my view on the other guy.
But notice I expressed that without picking apart this provider's physical appearance or telling BTC he has weird taste. 

There is no need to dehumanize the friends that Daniel lost. People who battle substance abuse deserve our empathy and help to recover, not your judgment. 

At least in this case, he’s clear about what he does and doesn’t offer when you text him. That said, I agree with you, advertising something as “sensual” while only providing therapeutic services is misleading at best.

Eh... Saying someone's vehement denial of a false accusation without any evidence is gaslighting. I've been sober or 27 years and do not hire people with PNP in their profile but I also realize it doesn't necessarily mean "I'm a crystal meth" addict. Like many things on the Internet, people are overreacting and making leaps based on little evidence. 

I saw him last night. He was fantastic. Great massage and wonderful extras. 

Ignore it, then it becomes truth. Defend it, and have asinine comments like this. Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't.
So many assumptions made about the PNP on a profile- does it mean he likes to drink? Does it mean he doesn't mind if you parTy but he himself does not. Does it mean he likes to light up a joint but nothing harder?  Well, you know what they say about assumptions right? 
Having said that, I'm pretty confident that when I make the assumption that you would also be similarly upset if you had a performance review posted on a notice board at your work place for all your colleagues and clients to see (which is what this site essentially is) that said you were a drug addict. Then when you rebut it you were accused of clutching your pearls with comments like yours above, it would probably further upset you. 
The thing about throwing mud is: it sticks. That is why trolls do it- they are like pigs, or dare I even say it: CLOWNS. 
@JacOB SESSION - You are not wrong for being upset. Anyone would be. Trolls are awful. There can be a 99 people in a room saying great things - but then one person makes a nasty snide comment and it suddenly becomes the loudest. 
I'd encourage you to delete this particular thread so when potential clients search you up here they don't read all this nonsense. However the advice to remove PNP from your profile is also sound. I find clients searching for PNP play have no issue asking you if you indulge whether it is on your profile or not, which gives you the chance to clarify your level of comfort in that area when they do. 
When lies are posted it is easy for people to say 'just ignore it', and it is hard to not react emotionally. We are effectively a small business, and false negative reviews have devastating and disproportionate consequences for us. To clarify - What may seem to some on this board as a silly throw away comment that took zero energy to make can mean we no longer can pay our rent, and stays up in perpetuity which feels particularly unfair when the comment is not true. My advice is to take a breath, and reply with factual statements and not opinions. ( for eg. "i am versatile and provide bottoming and topping for my clients." instead of defending your feelings on power bottoming/bottom shaming.)

After that you make this type of statement- which i think you did a pretty good job of anyway - then leave it be. Like all trolls, monsters or CLOWNS the more you feed them the fatter and uglier they become. And like most pigs, they actually enjoy rolling in shit and getting fat.  Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.
Sit above it and be clean. 

The vast majority of posts on this site (not this thread) are unhelpful/inaccurate/negative - whatever word you want to use. I prefer the people with hundreds of posts whose contributions are valued, even when sometimes I disagree with them. Admittedly a fantasy, but it would be nice if there were a way to eliminate the hit-and-run artists -- people who apparently cancel their accounts and rejoin under another name and post crap in the threads. Even though, yes, the OP could just have let the one comment go, and let it fade away, I'm glad he started the discussion, because, again, there are just way too many crap-posts uploaded here.

Lol. It is stunning how many people see the tag PNP and conclude with certainty that the person who tagged it is a meth-head of some sort, when they could well be tagging it to suggest that they are ok with a client doing whatever drugs said client wants to do.
 

Thank you for your rant. I am sorry to say that your “two cents”  appear to be indicative of a severe case of “tunnel vision”. If you are not open to the idea that you may be misreading someone’s intentions…you will always see things the same way.

Eh... Saying someone's vehement denial of a false accusation without any evidence is gaslighting. I've been sober or 27 years and do not hire people with PNP in their profile but I also realize it doesn't necessarily mean "I'm a crystal meth" addict. Like many things on the Internet, people are overreacting and making leaps based on little evidence. 

The OP asked providers if they have experienced clients posting bad reviews because things didn’t go their way. I’ve never had that happen, not knowingly anyway. I guess there could be unflattering reviews or comments out there about me (if anyone finds any please tell me!). Tbh I don’t care. Clients can post whatever they like. You can’t please everyone and those posting vituperative comments will be seen for what they are by most sensible people, and will only influence those clients who I’d prefer didn’t come to me anyway - that’s a positive outcome! 
By the way, the OP mentions the comments were slanderous. Not so. Slander is spoken not written. If it’s written as a record then the term is libellous (if it’s not true of course). If you say PNP in your adverts / profile then it’s more likely that the dissatisfied client’s comments are true than if your advertising says ‘no drugs’.
Personally I have never used drugs because I prefer to be present during sex but I’ve no problem with others using them. They just need to be prepared to be criticised for it. Just like I’m fine to be criticised for doing sex work. People with narrow or closed minds will always do that. Their problem not mine. 
 

Honestly, if this site really wants to be above-board, it would require that a provider consents to being posted about before allowing posts about them. I get it that it's free speech and all that, but the very personal topic and the ways in which it can be misconstrued make it where it would behoove everyone if this were the policy.  Not trying to be boring here... just my take on it. Providers do this work for all different reasons. The posts here often forget there is a person  there. The fact that anyone can just post anything they want and that it so directly affects someone''s livelihood is really just not responsible. 

Thank you very much! It was a challenging program but pushed through it! 

Verification of facts these days is difficult, to say the least. A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth. 
As it stands, without evidence, it's your word against his. I completely agree that slander is harassment and should be stamped out. 
You could get tested for drugs and upload the results to clear your name. 
I know I would not hire a provider who is known for doing meth so you're completely justified in your anger.

Unfortunately I don't think there is a way you are going to resolve something like this. You will always have petty vindictive clients that will make nasty snide remakes. Even if they had a great time. It is just the way these bitches make themselves feel better about themselves and to justify spending the money.
But I do agree with you, that claiming someone is a meth head just because they are dissatisfied is pathetic. I had a provider in Florida once that said he was in to kissing, cuddling, sucking and fucking. But when he got there he completely changed it to only a hand job, nothing else. I gave him a negative review for it but never called him names. He said he never promised any of that and that I was a liar, until I produced our conversation, then he blocked me.
I guess what I am saying is that it goes both ways, but I can see it being predominantly more against the providers.

I’m starting this thread because I’m tired of seeing toxic clients post baseless slander and fake reviews just because they didn’t get their way with a provider.
A few months ago someone posted this about me (Jacob_Session):
“Big time crystal meth addict and power bottom”
That comment is completely false. I’m not a meth addict — not even close. And throwing around “power bottom” like it’s some kind of insult just shows how petty and insecure some people are. Versatile providers exist who can top or bottom depending on chemistry and mood. Shaming someone for it says way more about the poster than it does about me.
What makes it worse is that right in the same thread, another member (Travpilo) left a very positive and detailed review:
“My experience was great. He catered to my desire to make out as a lead in… and his oral and bottoming skills were both outstanding. Some great conversation when we were done was a great finish. Didn’t notice any drug issues.”
One person lies to smear me, another has a genuinely good experience and says so. Yet the nasty comment stays up while the truth gets buried under “bump” posts asking for more reviews.
For the record: I have a Bachelor’s of Science in Atmospheric Science with double minors in Broadcast Meteorology and Mathematics. I’m currently returning to school for my Master’s in Disaster Resiliency and Leadership. I work hard and take pride in being a good, reliable guy in this business. I shouldn’t have to defend basic facts about myself against random anonymous attacks from people who know nothing about my life.
I’ve already reached out to the moderators asking them to remove that defamatory post. It crosses the line from opinion into clear slander, and it needs to come down.
Providers — have you dealt with toxic clients leaving fake reviews or baseless accusations when things didn’t go their way?
Clients — what do you think is fair here? How do we keep the review system honest without letting bitter people tarnish reputations?
I’m not looking for drama. I just want this community to stop tolerating this kind of garbage. We’re all tired of it.
Thanks for reading. Looking forward to hearing from you.

So he canceled on my 90 minutes before our appointment. Said he hadn’t slept and had a headache. That’s too flakey for me. 

I think that's a generalization. I contacted a provider in NJ where I planned on being a couple of weeks later and wanted to have something set up. His communication was good, and he did ask me to video chat through WhatsApp almost immediately.  
I figured if I wanted him to hold a date for me two weeks out, he had the right to know I was real and had no problem doing it. We had a pretty good meet up as well.

I'm getting requests for face time, etc., from providers. You can be sure if they want a WhatsApp or SnapChat talk, they're not serious.
I continue to turn down any photo/facetime requests. Some younger providers turn the rest of the hiring process into a joke if you turn down the photos, so I have to cut them down to size and block them. Entitled little brats - if you only want to spend time with attractive people you're in the wrong business.