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I am not interested in policing peoples' fantasies. But JoeMendoza wrote above: "has had fun with his biological mom and older brother for years, separately and the three of them together and K9 sex as a bottom. " That seems somewhat unambiguous to me.

"I did not or do not know what to think or feel about it yet" I don't like it when folks get judgmental on this site, and have pretty wide-ranging tastes myself that some others might find off-putting. But here I gotta draw the line: Bestiality is right alongside incest and pedophelia. An inclination toward any of them indicates a need for significant psych help. The only way to "feel about it" is "NO"

Bump.

Very much intentional. Thanks for noticing ; )

I have tried it with 'scorts who were already friends, and honestly it felt a bit rote - like an old vaudeville routine being trotted out again. What has worked best for me is to find two guys who don't know each other but are turned on by each other's profiles. I confirm in advance what everyone agrees to do (no holes barred). I find that the excitement of a exploring the other guy's body for the first time adds a lot to the session.

At the risk of sounding a bit jaded: in some service professions (waiter, masseur, bell hop, etc.) there is a certain type of straight guy who knows he is good looking and who has a high degree of self confidence and enjoys flirting with other (usually older) guys in the hopes of getting a generous tip. They would never cross the line, but if a suggestive glance or a subtle package adjustment gets them a $twenty, so be it.

In 15 years of hiring, I have gotten taken twice: As per Aaron James' comment above, a loan (in this case only $120 for "school books") from an adorable twink turned out to be the last contact I had with him. A little scarier was a backpage hire. He wasn't delivering (wouldn't kiss, wouldn't bottom, wouldn't suck dick) so I called a halt to the session and asked him to leave. He asked for a towel; when I returned to my bedroom he was in a different part of the room and appeared to have been prying. I later discovered that he had gone into my dresser drawer and lifted about $250 in cash. Ever since then, I have been careful with first-time hires to hide the valuables and keep the guys in my sight at all times.

To be clear, I'm not saying anything re the OP's obligation with regard to the fee. I just think it ridiculous that some still delude themselves with the "you're only paying for his time" routine. That can be your response to the vice squad (good luck with that), but around here it lacks credibility.

Do we really need to trot out the "paying for time, not for sex" fiction yet again like some sort of blanket excuse? Yes, I know that there is a legal fiction that some like to stick to, but seriously it's just plain silly to put it forward on these pages as if it was in any way relevant. Does anyone in this forum truly believe that with all of the discussion of sexual positions, appearance/endowment, kiss or no, raw or sheathed, cum or no, etc. that we are thinking about spending $300 an hour for someone's time? The OP was not paying for time, he had communicated a specific scenario which was agreed to in advance.

Reminds me of that classic old movie line: "I'd love to kiss ya, but I just washed my hair."

That's what I love about this site: the great questions are explored here, from "what is the essence of life - how do we define a living thing?" to "is his cock really that big or is that a photoshop job?"

I don't know how much of his perfect, glistening body is real, how much is make-up, and how much is photoshop (and bless him if it's all real) , but to me he is a little too-much like a mannequin -- too perfect, too plastic, too designed. Give me a fit, trim, natural-looking guy anytime.

Gee, I wish I knew when I was younger that getting someone else to pay my bills was a form of escort service. I missed my calling....

The 2-1-1 method is more commonly used and accepted outside of the US. Many folks abroad say that our use of the daily pill approach is just another example of big pharma making sure that they can sell us more pills.. Not being a medical pro, I can't weigh in on the virtues of one approach versus the other. But as someone who has sex infrequently (twice or three times a month is a good month), I struggle to justify the daily pill regime and required frequent doctor visits.

I know that it WAS a criminal offense, hence my tongue-in-cheek reference to Oscar Wilde (is tongue in cheek also sodomy?). My point is that I haven't heard of anyone being charged with it since Cade was a toddler.

Gee, the list of charges for Jeb of Sean Cody includes "sodomy" Is there someplace where that is still an offense? I mean, who with? Oscar Wilde?

You have wonderful taste. 2, 4, and 5 light my fire, but all look yummy

I think NY has the widest range of rates of any place. Yes, the uber-wealthy Wall Streeters and lawyers can provide a market for the uber-expensive providers, but there is also a wealth of under-employed wanna-be actors/models, blue collar guys looking for a little extra cash, and boys off the bus from Iowa sleeping on their buddy's couch in the Bronx. I for one don't go for the perfectly-worked bodies and the pristinely-coiffed hair at $500 an hour when I can get the boy next door look or the pizza delivery man at half that rate : )

There was a young latin guy I saw regularly in NYC (more than 15 times over two years). He was an NYU student and he had some pretty significant mood disorder issues (deep depressive swings) and a tough life over all. He used to hang out post-coitus and we had lovely long chats, and sometime he just talked and talked and cried (and no, he didn't charge me for the time - I should have charged him LOL). One day he texted me that he was in desperate need of about $200 for some school books, and coupled it with saying that he was no longer going to escort but that he wanted to see me from time to time just to hang out. I venmo'ed the money and he immediately stopped returning texts and phone calls. It wasn't a big financial loss, but it stung. I felt foolish. Lesson learned.

Thanks so much. Another reminder of the value of this community ; )

I hate the name, but the pics look lovely. Any experience or insight would be welcomed! https://rentmen.eu/scruffypuppy/

Agree with both xyz48B and StLouisOct above. There are few things that kill my boner faster than the realization that the guy I am with is genuinely not enjoying himself (over the years, I've sent a few 'scorts packing when it was clear that they didn't want to be there). Although some providers find it annoying, I am definitely one for up-front transparency: "this is who I am (age, weight, height, looks) and this is what I like to do. Is that something you can get into?"

Thank you Orville. I have been chuckling all day at that image of Kermit.

As a small business person with an hourly rate, I have no right to be pissed off if I ask a client "what do you want to pay?" and they come back with a lowball offer. If price is an issue and I want the business, I can choose to offer a discount: "my normal rate is $250 per hour, but I will offer you a 20% discount for our introductory session." Once you invite negotiation, that's what you get: a negotiation.

Thanks for this. I have been stunned by the vitriol from some of the prolific posters who decide that they alone are the arbiters of, well, everything, which gives them the right to label, libel, belittle, insult, and accuse. It takes much not to stoop to their level and fling the poo back at them.