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that was very nice of you to do! I recall a similar instance: I was in Phoenix the other month and was upgraded to a nice spacious, two room suite with a view downtown. I really wanted to host, but all my bookings were outcalls! Nobody showed up to my room the whole 2 days I was there. I was like, oh the irony. The days I’m hosting, I end up with outcalls. The days I am not hosting, they want to come to me ?

Yeah that’s definitely a good point here. Sometimes you just have to go to a city over and over again, in order to build a rapport. Sometimes just going to a city 1 time and staying for a couple or few days just doesn’t cut it. However, it’s also true that after awhile... sometimes a person can “burn” thru a city to a point where each visit can become substantially less profitable. Or sometimes that regular anchor client is no longer available... and then you realize without that person, it’s actually not worth the trip. I’ve had that happen with a few cities: places like Boise, Idaho and Salt Lake City were good for a couple of years, then it dried up and never rebounded. Even Minneapolis used to be a hit maker for me, but after a couple of years it too started drying up. I’ve attempted to go recently, but the level of unrest in recent months has me stalled. I have found though that taking 2-3 year breaks from a city gives a chance for the pond the “replenish”. The town I’m in is so dead and dry: I haven’t had a “new” client in almost a month now, and even he has contacted me previously. There’s also some cities that I just rather not compete with. Dallas Texas is one of them. The potential is there, but on previous trips I get 1 client out of a banquet inquiries. When I do go, I make sure it’s not for the sole purpose of finding clients.

Well recall I did make a post about an attempted 3 way session, where the other escort wasn’t wanting to do the service that the client wanted after being lowballed... the bowing out by the client certainly wasn’t graceful. I’m more than willing to accommodate clients for incalls. But the issue also tends to be, “oh I can’t meet at that time, I have (insert various excuse as to why they can’t meet at the time I suggest). So it’s like, not only can they not host, but they want someone to host at the times it’s convenient for them. That said, I don’t negate the benefit of having ones own incall place. I actually used be brainwashed that having a car was more important than having your own place. But nowadays, it seems you increase your chances of hooking up if you have your own place... even if you don’t have a personal vehicle. Because many guys can’t host, even open and out gay men. I even know some guys who live alone, and purposely don’t “host” because their living quarters aren’t fit for 2 men to meet and have sex. Whenever I’ve had my own place, I always designed it with an extra person in mind, just in case ?

I can understand that 100%. Especially in places like DC or other metro areas where outcalls would be a production of sorts. However, there been times I've gone to DC and EVERYONE the entire trip wanted me to come to them. Which was fine because, I could stay at a friend's hotel while his company was paying for a convention, or stay in a run of mill hotel in Maryland or Virginia that I would be a little embarrassed to host in lol.

A previous post in another thread, got me thinking of this. It seems to be an age old dilemma, but I’m just curious. It seems like the days of cruising parks and beaches for sex were for the purpose of finding someone, but not so much as because one or both parties couldn’t host. In this biz, it seems like more and more clients are wanting me to host. Idk if that’s due in part to my current market, but it seemed like back in 2008-2009ish, it was much easier to just offer outcalls and still be able to make a decent earning. Most were at hotels, while a few were at their places. However, I find nowadays the majority of my bookings (mainly seeming to be the middle America cities) want me to host. Which is no harm no foul. I like my ambience and set up. But the issue comes because there are weeks/weekends, where I’ll want to spend a week or 2 with friends or family in their hometowns. I even alternate living arrangements currently between 2 cities. One of which, makes it difficult to host because it’s so far outside of the city. When I host it has to be carefully planned: advance notice and deposit usually. And majority of the guys contacting can’t seem to manage doing that, for the world. And it is very frustrating. I usually end up missing appointments all week long until someone can either host or book with more than 10 minutes notice. My thing is: why does this even need to be an issue? I would think if a client is looking to have some fun time with a particular provider, and can’t host from his home: He would go to the nearest hotel and spend $60-80 on a place to host (assuming it’s not New York or Seattle hotel rates). But even then. I don’t understand the increasingly expectation that the escort can host. I understand there’s likely a plethora of valid reasons that a client can’t host...but again, the options for hotels are there. Usually when I end up hosting in my home town, I end up with just 1 client that day. So if I’m already spending on a room, that’s a big chunk out of my donation. A 250 session can be more like earning 150. And any less than that, it only leaves 100 or less. Not worth it. So sometimes I’ll just say I can’t host or won’t host unless they book a full service or 2 hour visit. It makes it even worse when a client says, “well don’t get a room just for me”. But then they can’t host either. It just boggles me at times. If it mattered that much, they should be willing to furnish the accommodations. I know of a guy who would have me drive to his town outside of the city, he would get the hotel for me or pay me on top of my donation. Then he’d leave and let me keep it. Not the expected scenario, but certainly an ideal one. Adversely, many seem to essentially dismiss an escort who doesn’t host.

The Covid vaccination selling point is just about as safe as the “I’m on prep” selling point. All free and clear until you get the dreaded text/call: “I tested positive for...(any of the numerous stds that is NOT hiv)

Good points. And just a follow up I posted in another thread about "don't waste my time" that someone posted. A "client" who sent me a couple of pics of himself including one of a hard one (and upon further inspection, looks like they could have been 10 years old for all I know). Turned out to be a complete fraud. I played along with his game for a little while, but when I told him I'm parting ways because he #1 hadn't called or answered my calls from his number which seemed odd, he kept wanting me to call his hotel room #2 never cash apped me to confirm the session, and #3 didn't follow up to our supposed appointment yesterday. He got angry and came with a long alibi about this, that and the 3rd. Followed by "fuck you". I didn't even bother. There's some sick mother fuckers out here that live for nothing more than to give illusions. That's exactly why I signed back up for a site that verifies phone numbers. Majority of the time if that number pulls up empty info, it's a phony on the other end. Unless they have a good explanation of why they are using a burner number to schedule me.

definitely facts. And at the end of the day, one can’t always tell how much a client is “worth” beyond what they choose to pay us. I know a guy who drove an old (not antique, but old) Pontiac around in his “vacation” city. He upgraded to a regular Honda car. But one day, he invited me to his home up north. He has a Lincoln SUV, a Cadillac convertible, and a pickup truck. Sitting on acres of land in a McMansion. He originally told me he has a mediocre job, like a chiropractor. But later revealed he owned a medical practice. I guess he trusted me at that point to not go haywire, but our 1st meet was at a Ritz Carlton mountain resort, so that was a dead giveaway lol. But just goes to show. People will only let known what they want to be known, so it’s pointless trying to do a “sliding scale” of rates. But if an escort is true to themselves and know their worth, they can get their rates regardless if the client shows up in a Pinto or a Bugatti

? that’s why I even put it my ad that I do not host when I’m in a certain area. But....I’ve still had 2 people yesterday want to come to me, because they wanted me to host. I’m not bothered though because I already stated it in my ad. I understand in many cities, clients can’t host. And that’s okay because not everybody can create the proper ambience I desire for a session. My appointments are like a performance. I have music, candles, maybe some porn, wine, I welcome in with a sexy outfit or just a towel. I want guys to get their money’s worth and know that every appointment is a unique production. But I don’t want to get caught into the rat race of having clients who just want to “come over” at the last minute with no real planning. The other day, I was out of town and gave a client my hotel and room number (something I don’t normally do but he claimed to have been Ubering over). He never showed up. That said, your reference to trade shows and how a “tire kicker” could become a potential client makes sense. However, as I’ve said earlier: it’s not the same. I don’t think people go to trade shows with the intent to waste another’s time. But when a client from RentMen is scheduled to show at a particular time, and doesn’t. Or strings a provider along for several hours or days, that’s not cool. I wouldn’t compare our biz to trade shows and other high turnover type of gigs. I would more relate it to hotels, airlines and wedding planners who more of a stringent guideline to appointments: because with this type of bookings: a canceled visit cheats another person out of an opportunity to book. Or, there’s upfront costs and work involved to ensure appointment can be made. If you don’t show up, you get charged. If you wouldn’t book a hotel and no show, wouldn’t book a flight and no show, or bail on a wedding planner who requires deposits, those people shouldn’t do it with a RentMan advertiser either.

This doesn’t sound like a porn, this sounds like 2 people were misguided on what the other wanted...and it just ended up as a shit show. One thing I have noticed that clients need to stop doing: is walking out of a session. I’ve seen this twice last week. One I was able to keep it going and it ended well because I was the only person, and it was more of a case of the client being a little nervous and not communicating. However, one ended bad because the client wanted more than the other escort in a 3 way was willing to do. But it was the client who ended things, so he technically forfeited his session. I was trying to tell him to just stick around and let things continue because I was going to make sure he got what he wanted... but he had already made up his mind that he was done. And I don’t blame him because the other escort had did him wrong, and the setup of the massage was horrible, no ambience, and rushed. That said in your particular case, I think the communication could have been better (care to massage me longer, please?) and you should have not made a fuss and left. But also, look at the facts: He’s a foreigner, y’all haven’t met in 4 years, and I’m not sure what you refer to as “handler”, but sounds like a Pimp. It’s just not a good situation. I won’t say you’re wrong because clearly the other guy had an intent to get you in and then out, but it could have been handled better. I do most all of my rubs on a bed, but I never get any complaints. But not every bed massage is the same. I have no desire to travel from City to city, hotel to hotel with a massage table. If a client wishes to have a massage table massage, they are welcome to provide one and I’ll go to their place. But if someone has an issue with a bed massage, then I wouldn’t want them to come with a chip right off the bat.

But you also have to understand what kind of era we are living in right now. Before we call out the guys who say, “don’t waste my time”, let’s try to understand what is currently happening and why this might be the case: 1. Rates haven’t been allowed in ads since Trump’s Sesta/Fosta Bill circa 2016. 2. Grindr and other apps that foster conveyor belt style sex has become the norm 3. Likes ?? is how people get to express they are attracted to someone. 4. The word “escort” has been removed from just about every site in America. 5. There’s no guidelines from websites like there were back in early 2000s about how to be a reputable escort. If someone browses hard enough, they may come across blogs like @David-SF who has volunteered to share their experiences. 6. There’s not much of any in the way of resources for clients to arrange visits with providers. 7. Many guys don’t take the business seriously, or see it for the purpose of making money. Not for the purpose of freedom or having a genuine liking for what sex work is truly about. 8. it’s 2021 and prostitution still has not been declared legal and decriminalized in all 50 states. I’m sure there are more reasoning to back it, but when you add it all up: it makes sense that this isn’t simply like “other small businesses” like someone said. We are living in oppression. Nothing is being geared in our favor right now. There’s no direction. Everyone is left to their own devices. On the bright side, it’s still possible to be successful and do good in the biz. And you don’t have to come off aggressive or off putting. I mean, I struggled with that myself. Sometimes still do. But not as much. I have ways of doing things that are very automated and kind of avoid too much of the riff raff, but some still slide. But let’s not pretend like some people out there don’t like to waste sex worker’s time as a hobby. They’re always browsing the sites, always looking for the next one to pop up, and bullshit them. That’s facts. But escorts should make sure a timewasting client does not continuously get to waste their or other’s time. I have one right now who’s been on my line for the past couple weeks or so. Apparently there was supposed to be an appointment tonight. No word. After this, all I’m going to do is send him my cancellation/rebook fee request...then nothing else. If and when I see the funds in my account, then I’ll talk. But after today, he’s cut.

Now I’m curious what this porn scene is, exactly ? Now: to be serious, I wouldn’t necessarily want to be “hired” specifically to recreate a porn scene. However, I am open to “simulate” a porn scene...and I would even want to be watching in the process. I know some clients (on the board) have objected to an escort watching porn during a session, but my new thing as of lately has been to pretty much always have a porn going on the big screen, even when I travel. It’s not that I need it or divert attention off the client, but it’s just good visual to have. Watching porn, getting turned on, see a move being done...might make one or the other want to try it. I’ve even done a couple “gangbangs”, and honestly I have to thank porn sometimes because, I believe porn fuels guy’s desires. I’ve had guys get turned on by a White girl sucking a BBC on porn, and they call me. He may not even be “gay”, but they want to be the girl on the other end of the dick. So I understand, a fantasy is a fantasy whether it’s from a porn or just thought of.

Facts, my man! You really put it in the right perspective. Somehow I hadn’t caught onto how the gesture of sending a pic can be a maneuvering tactic, but it makes clear sense. However, what I can say is even more disenchanting...is the off chance that a “client” browsing a rate-less RentMen could be “imagining” that we are everything but what you specified as it relates to the nature of what we do. I’ve had the occasional person claim (via phone...God forbid, not during or after a meeting) they didn’t know I was for hire. So some of these guys may be disillusioned to believe that we are simply a high end Grindr (and doesn’t help some escorts are using these obvious selfie photos as main profile pics. I’m of the old school that a PROFESSIONAL site should not be plastered with selfie shots.) And there’s no harm or foul with that. I actually like to know more about the client, and I also like receiving pics. Just to be clear. But what I am not too hot about, is someone contacting and including a pic of themselves, having a good chat about my sessions and what hotel they’re or I’m at...and then they retreat to, “okay, I’ll let you know”. Which never happens. And then when I call them on it, they come with the tired old “I never made an appointment” line. Well then why the FUNK did you bother sending me pics of you, if you didn’t funking have any intent to make an appointment ??‍♂️. I’ve had more than enough guys do that, and now hearing @HoleTrainer giving his 2 cents...I’m definitely going to not give as much of a time of day thinking, “oh great they sent me a pic, so this is definitely a serious client” ??‍♂️ However, I will say exception to every rule: I did have a client send me a couple of pics of himself, one which included his jizz shot. We did end up meeting later that day and....all was exactly as pictured in the end ? So like I say, sending a pic won’t be met with hostility, but if someone is going to do it, do it with genuine intent. Unfortunately, today’s app society makes this hard to do. People are so busy playing gigapet on their iPhones with other men, gay sex has become a gaming app for many. That’s why it’s important to just have a biz setup at the door. Some guys get caught into the rat race of answering every call and text and being “available now” round the clock. It’s just a waste of time. I want quality, not quantity.

I’ll just say though, there’s a hallway for every oversized hot dog ? he just gotta keep hope alive. Maybe visit a bathhouse on a Saturday night, the parTy guys will definitely not have an issue ?

This I agree! I think “we” as gay men focus ??‍♂️ so much on dick sizes and materialistic attributes. That’s why I’ve had to cut out a lot of the superficially sexual guys out of my “zone” (and some have even passed on their own due to drugs/addictions used to take such large cocks). Bottoms can be part of the problem, and the solution. Not just those who are non-monster cock guys. I think some guys out there, namely bottoms, make finding a big dick too much of a their daily focus. But someone can have a big dick, and actually be a big dick lol. Some even try to “makeup” for their shortcomings by seeking out bigger and tougher tops. My last “fuck buddy” tried to make it seem like I wasn’t aggressive enough, like they are in porn. I’m like dude, you’re like 5’9, 160 pounds and I’m 6’2, 205 pounds and my dick is twice the size of his. Any rougher, and he’d need an extra top to fill the new hole I just split him ? Plus, I’ve had the time or 2 where rough fucking has made my dick slip out of their ass. And that’s easily a recipe for a fractured penis. That’s why when bottoms start aggressively throwing their ass back...I tell them to STOP. That said, I’ve been from time to time told I wasn’t too big down below. But in my case, I’ve realized that I’m a “grower” not a show-er and that also the camera tends to play tricks with my dick. Because my legs from my waist to my knees are something like 18-19 inches, me being a soft 3 or 4 inches can look disproportionately small from a distance. But when it’s like eight ? and in their face, I’ve not had much complaints lol. That said, there’s things that have been clinically proven, that can help guys “grow” a bit. That includes slimming the midsection, exercising (increased flow), trimming pubes (not necessarily bare, but just some grooming versus a full on “bush”, and many porn stars are trimmed to give this effect also), and also taking natural herbs helps. Even having sex regularly, can make it bigger. All assumes you want or need to be. If a guy is a “superficial” size queen, it doesn’t matter if you’re 9, 10 or 12 inches. His goal isn’t to find a big dick. His goal is to just find “many” big dicks. So yours won’t really matter after you fuck him ??‍♂️

word to the wise and this isn’t sexist: how female (and even MTFs) escorts do on a tour, shouldn’t always be an indicator or deciding factor for what city will best. Miami is an example: some drive Mercedes and have brought condos off of selling sex. But we’ve already discussed the market for Miami/S. Florida for gay male escorts. That said, Boston is good for other reasons...however I did 1 trip there back in 2009, and haven’t been back. It was “ok”, but there (was) also a plethora of flakes. However, I’ve said before; cities change, me as a provider changes, websites change. So I can’t mention how it would be now. Some cities that sucked years ago, I’ve gone and been run off my feet with bookings years later. I would have liked to take a post-covid tour since hotels in even the most expensive cities have dropped substantially, but I don’t know for how much longer the trend will continue before I get out there. I wish I could say you were correct, but I have to counter and say that it doesn’t quite work that way. In fact, it’s just the opposite. As someone who’s been touring since 2008, 90% of the time the more escorts there are, the less your chances are of making big numbers. HOWEVER, I find there are exceptions. If a city is wealthy, large and “gay” enough to support the supply, it could work. These include San Francisco, Palm Springs (varies), Washington DC. But beyond those cities, I’ve not found hardly any large city that is brimming with escorts, to really be worth going without careful scheduling and/or a FEW anchor clients. These include Orlando, Atlanta, Dallas, LA, etc. Even places like Kansas City, Denver, Salt Lake City, Charlotte, Raleigh, and even Phoenix: these cities are not easy anymore like they used to back in earlier 2000s because so many guys are filling into these cities. And it also doesn’t help (well, actually it does in a way) that there’s not many sites competing. Clients used to be able to go to higher end or lower end sites. Now it’s just RentMen and Grindr. For example, I went to a smallish Midwestern city last week (I can’t reveal all my secrets...which aren’t really secrets because I see more guys going to even the smaller cities from time to time). I literally went with NO notice. I just went spur of the moment to drive another escort up, after he missed his train. I was able to squeeze in 3 clients, and I could have had 5 or 6 if the others didn’t flake. Idk how my other escort friend did because he seemed kind of jealous and annoyed that I decided to stay in town. But we are different from each other (other than both being Black), so I wasn’t too concerned. However, if a town has 0 escorts...say, some cowpoke town off the interstate, then no. Don’t expect anything unless a client happens to just call from that city. Happens with me every once in awhile. Tiny town with no escorts, and a client exists there. I actually spent some time in Fort Collins, and it was refreshing to get away from Denver. Denver starts to get annoying after awhile. It’s becoming like Phoenix in terms of “traffic”. I was at 1 hotel, and there was another escort staying right next door to me. I like how you said every trip to every city is different. It’s very true. You can do good in Washington DC one month, and go back a year or 2 later and be completely dead. And then a week later, be right back busy. True story lol.

it is crazy, however I’ve dealt that same story more times than I can even count. Usually happens after the 1st or 2nd meet (in my personal life outside of escorting, but many of my clients end up regulars), however not 13 years. I find there’s only 2 ways, many gay guys handle working on a relationship: either they leave without notice, or they’ll talk about things only with the goal of putting down the self esteem of their partner. So if a mother fucker wants to get up and walk away, go. Whatever it is a person doesn’t like and can’t say in the moment, is more a reflection on them. As it relates to the topic, I did find myself in some “relationships” with clients. But going by my last one, I stood by the idea that I didn’t feel we needed to go that route. And my intuition proved right. He was an affectionate, lovable guy...but he was also needy and controlling. Add in unresolved parental issues, sex/porn addiction and prescription medication use... the guy was a bit of a whack job. But I looked past and was starting to love him, but he was just a 24/7 dick. He always had a problem with something I said, or didn’t say. Eventually it crashed and burned. That said: I personally won’t go into anymore serious dating situations with a client. That’s not out of lack of trust or my experiences. It’s more of just I understand what the relationship is. It’s not meant to be monogamous or committed. It doesn’t mean that there can’t be mutual respect, a long term “friendship”, or even genuine like for each other. Heck, I even have a couple who I stay with. Clients can make great housemates or travel buddies. But it doesn’t mean we have to chart into being “boyfriends” while “being ok” with me being an escort. I feel the basis of a client-escort interaction is to be free from the intricacies of a traditional relationship. That’s a perk! For less than the cost of the monthly rent for a 1 bedroom apartment in most cities, a person can have an arrangement with a guy... without the skeletons lol. Relationships are hard. And that’s not even touching the surface. Men are difficult. Personalities are difficult. It’s hard enough trying to find 1 attractive man to stay in a relationship with, let alone one that you met based on a fantasy. The most I’d want it to be is 2 guys who like each other and enjoy spending time with each other. Once the “partner” role comes into play, people get disappointed when they realize... suddenly you’re NOT in love. I had a former client who we parted ways, because I told him I didn’t want to be his boyfriend, especially while he was still married AND I just wanted a steady regular. The other day I seen he messaged me, and I noticed the number. I was like, hey is this so and so from....? It seemed like he blocked me once realized who I was. Some of these guys portray to escorts that they are relationship material, but some of them have work they need do within.

It’s unfortunate that some of the posters (or shall I say, posers) do these things. I recall a friend I knew from Washington, DC, someone had catfished his ad in San Jose California. It’s just the by product of internet escorting and social media being highly sought after. One thing I’ve started to learn (from one escort to another escort), if an escort posted doesn’t have a “name” for themselves, majority of the time it’s going to be a flake or fake. Or they’re not serious about the business or serious about their reputation. I’ve seen it face to face. These no name, knock off brand guys with names that sound like “screenames” will lure clients in, and it’s not even them when they show up. On the off chance it is them in the pictures, they may be sketchy and “off”. Best way to avoid, is to make sure they have a “real” name. That name should generally include other profiles and references across the net.

Awesome sauce ? I ❤️ 3 ways and it’s extra fun with another top. However, my last 3 way included 1 bottom and 1 verse top. I gladly fucked them both while the main guy (client) also took turns fucking him and gave my 1st ever double facial. 4 days worth of jizz ? ?

ironic, a client and I were just talking about me going to London. It was on my bucket list for 2020, but of course travel was all out of whack. If the stars align and I can make it, I might be able to make the leap lol.

Right, all of the above. And yeah...once you agree to something you have to stick with it. If either party don't agree, don't let them waste their time coming. I had to battle with myself on this today. A client was coming, and I agreed to let him come over close to my hotel checkout time. I would have to pay extra by the hour to stay longer, so no biggie. But I had typed up a couple texts telling him I couldn't do it because I wanted to continue on to my destination, but then I deleted them before I sent it. I would feel like a shitty person to cancel on the guy, when he was on his way (even though he was coming to the city anyway for other stuff...at-least that's what he said but who knows maybe he did come just for me). But otherwise yes, I'm not going to work with anymore guys UNLESS the client has met me and the other escort already and knows both our demeanors OR the client chooses to contact individually (I've had a few successful 3 and 4 ways in this manner before). But I can't be confident that another guy will arrange a session with the same intent that I would. I don't do secrets and surprises when it comes down to it. I even seen a female escort who did such thing years ago. The client called both of us to arrive. She came in, got the 200... and then was like, "this is just my arrival fee. If you want to do anything beyond this, it'll be an extra 200". And she did nothing more than just watch him suck me off. ?

You said this very well! Definitely bridged that disconnect, and it makes sense. And I see it. That’s why I told one of the escorts before we met: If I take my time out to meet another escort 1 on 1, it can’t be a situation where you’re ready to rush off to the next client after 30 minutes. However: I went ahead and went out on a limb to meet one of the advertisers who I mentioned in my earlier post. I’ll just say: I think the other thing that will probably be a “block” for me, is that I find some guys have ways of working that I may ethically don’t agree with (and even I have been subject of disapproval by some on the board on things). That said, I’m almost feeling lucky to have not been in a worse situation the other night. The escort guy I met up with had arranged a 3 way visit for a client (he met him on Grindr, which is another way of working I don’t regularly pursue, but he uses it religiously). The client wasn’t able to afford the MSRP of having us both. But he said what he could pay, and escort agreed. Well, after the client arrived and paid us upfront...we started the action, but before we could get into the “main course”, the other escort decides that he wasn’t being paid enough, and was only going to do vanilla service. At that point, the client is like...well we agreed to do that. And I’m like, hey...I’ll go ahead and continue, it’s not an issue for me even though it is less than what I’d normally do. But the guy was from Grindr. You don’t always get regular price advertising on Grindr. It’s like the Groupon of escorting. The other escort is like no, I don’t want to do all that. Then the client starts asking for the donation back, and I’m just there like...trying to mitigate the situation. Other escort isn’t budging. Client is getting angry. On his way out, the client said; “you guys go fuck yourselves”. And this is at the escort’s hotel. Which is a security breach. But then come to find out, the escort didn’t even have his client’s phone number. The client also agreed to pay the rest the next day, but I’m telling the escort, how would you have gotten it if you didn’t have his phone number to begin with? I always ask every client to include name, age, and phone number. It’s just a responsible thing to ask. I don’t mention this to bash the other escort, but it’s an example of the things one can run into, dealing with other guys in the biz. I felt so bad for the client, I almost wanted to run out to the client and say, “call me...I’ll meet you for no charge next time.” I was telling the escort, the “client” was from Grindr and he was already here. There’s no guarantee he would have become a regular or even paid us the rest of the funds, but it certainly guaranteed the client won’t come again. I’ve been in very few confrontational in-person situations with clients, and that was one I would have never let go down on my watch. Other than that, the escort seems like a guy with a good amount of common sense and class. But we work so differently, that I almost don’t feel right about it. Like for one, he wanted to do the 3 way on a PULL OUT SOFA. I’m like, what are you doing? I would never do a session like that. Put a sheet over your bed if you must. But it just goes to show, when it comes down to it...we may both have the same end game, but it doesn’t equate to being on the same page on things when it comes down to running things.

That’s right. And that’s why I referenced him, because he’s not in the biz any longer. I spoke to him maybe 4 years ago when I was temporarily residing in Orlando, after he had moved to Washington State. Mostly along the lines of, “I like it out here”

I know people like that also. I mean, if we've learned anything over the last 4 year's: a person can be a billionaire and still be frugal and treat people with little worth. I used to come across guys like that all the time: I knew an older guy (not a client, but just had miscellaneous boy toys he'd take out to dinner, etc) years ago when I was younger and dumber, who was decently wealthy: not rich, but had a home in Miami and Pennsylvania. He was so cheap, I had a vehicular emergency occur in his driveway. Had AAA tow me to the shop. Repair bill was like $250. I was already in the area from out of town, which made it worse. He didn't even try to offer me anything, so I could at the very least; make it to a client if one called. But then again, I've found some of the worst "rich" guys are the ones who keep Black "boy toys" around. They have their 1 trophy they keep around and take care of all their expenses...but anytime their others have an issue, they categorize them as just another guy with "problems" and their insensitivity kicks in. That's why I don't care to keep the company of "rich" guys unless we're in a communicated exchange situation. Not that it always has to be about money, but with the understanding that if I need it, they'll be willing to share likewise as I'd be willing to share my craft. But if they think they can get access just because they offer me a room in their home or a fancy dinner... please. That's why I'm so glad on my last tour, I took MYSELF out to eat majority of the time (except when out with my buddy @jbm500 who was courteous to treat a couple of times) and stayed in a hotel nearly every night of the trip except 2. I've grown tired of people doing things for me and thinking since they did it, they don't have to do anything else or that I'm somehow "indebted" to be grateful for what they offered, no questions or substitutions asked

"Brank warned that he would tell people that Burns was gay and paying for an escort if he didn’t pay $500,000 in cash and hand over his $100,000 Audi sports car. Burns quickly followed Brank’s demands, but that only led to Brank wanting more. Brank then demanded that Burns give him Burns’ Los Angeles apartment and $1 million in cash. While Burns agreed, he also called the FBI." I don't want to get wrapped up in gossiping about a person's downfall, because at the end of the day we don't really know the situation as it played out. but this example reeks of White privilege. It sounded like the guy was already making good coin as it is, yet he abused the situation far beyond what was necessary. Yet it seems like the 3rd degree is given when a genuine provider asks for a cancellation fee or deposit: despite the provider already spending money out pocket in anticipation for a booking that may or may not happen.