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My hiring experience encompasses the years 2002 to 2015. I’m not sure about the abbreviation BFE. But I know the term was certainly there since 2012 and really even before. I’m pretty sure I used that kind of description whether I used the actual words or not when I described to an escort what I was looking for. And obviously there is no set definition of BFE. But there is also no real life Mr. Average. And yet if we speak about average or usual type of behavior, most people have an idea what it means. In like manner, if you say boyfriend experience, I’d think most people have a general gestalt of what it means to be a boyfriend. . Of course you’d always need to discuss specifics. Now whether the escort is actually willing to act like a boyfriend, even if they advertise it, is another point entirely. The majority of my hires were fairly good kissers over the years. Since I usually hired for two hours or a weekend, they had more time to get to know me. So that probably helped (I hope). I also noticed that even if they were tentative or not so great at kissing to begin with, once we started and a bit of physical stimulation was thrown into the mix, they became a lot more passionate. There were several guys over the years that I really wanted to hire, but they indicated they weren’t into kissing, so I ended up refraining from hiring. There were also a few who said they were into kissing, and whether they weren’t really or weren’t into it with me specifically, I never hired again. A case of a guy I wanted to hire, but he said he didn’t like to kiss (I think he told me he didn’t even like to kiss with a boyfriend) was Jason Land http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3GsDVD4bQfw/Rc1AOv1y1yI/AAAAAAAAAAw/JrwMLxRxEsc/s400/JA63Pumps.jpg A guy I ended up hiring whom I think I asked about kissing-or maybe I assumed he did-but in any case when we met said he only deep kissed his boyfriend was Tony Serrano. I never hired him again. http://www.friskyfans.org/catphotos/models/TonySerrano/Tony-Serrano.jpg Gman

I don’t understand. Gman

If it’s not being too impertinent, how old were you? And was it comfortable? I’m picturing dirt and rocks. Gman

Unfortunately money-wise I can’t afford it. Plus getting away for several hours at night from my Mom would be extremely difficult. You know all the euphemisms seem vaguely disgusting to me. And creampie-I’m not really a fan of cum. An escort I was once with asked me if I wanted to cum on his face. I said I would if he wanted. But it didn’t really do a lot for me. And those scenes in porn where a guy’s face is dripping or has it leaking out of his derrière, gross me out. Gman

That was why I never met him. I have a vague memory of contacting him and asking whether he would bottom. The answer might have been yes-unless this is just some pipe dream I had-minus the opium as I don’t smoke it. But I think he said he didn’t kiss which would have put the kabosh on any meeting. I realize others don’t feel this way. But it’s almost painful for me to have sex and for the guy not to be into kissing. It’s at the least very frustrating. There is one guy I used to see in Seattle on a semi-routine basis. He didn’t like to kiss. I still liked seeing him because he was a nice guy in every other way-except I never saw him cum (he’s one of those guys who takes forever). He finally started giving me a few lip only pecks. But I would have seen him a lot more often than I did over 6 years if he had been into kissing. Gman

I never would have recognized him. Gman

It wasn’t immediate. It has taken a lot of effort to find even the few guys I have. But what can you expect. Not that many guys like older out of shape guys-or if they do like tummy type, I’m not into them as they are probably my type. And I’m not attracted to my own type. I agree with you. The word/phrase puts me in mind of the kinkiest types of porn films. And I’m more of a vanilla guy. But I don’t know that the word ‘bareback’ sounds much better. Scruff, Grindr, MisterX, Growlr (but I don’t usually find many guys on that one at all because they are too similar to me. And while guys don’t have to be rail thin for me, I’m not usually into bears unless they are muscle bears or athletic chasers), and Bear411 (which has a lot of the same problems for me as Growlr). In my experience in both Washington State and Texas, Grindr and Scruff have the best looking guys. Gman

It’s not unsual for me not to be able to find anyone. I normally have this problem when I’m at home in Washington. But currently I’m visiting relatives in my real home in Texas. There have been many might have beens. But so many guys on the apps say they can’t host. And I’m staying with a relative and definitely can’t. There were two guys that were possible. But they both wanted me to ‘breed them’. The problems with that-on a personal basis I’d prefer not to breed if I have the choice. In addition, I have an occasional f-ckbuddy in Washington state. I think I’m the only one he’s seeing. And while we don’t see each other often, I do go bare with him. I’ve also promised him that I won’t go bare with anyone but him. (I’m on PrEP-but even before I made this agreement with my buddy, I didn’t feel that PrEP gave me the carte blanche ability to go bare with any and everyone I met. ) My feelings about PrEP have always been that it gives me some leeway/insurance for the occasional times when I have gone bare. Prior to this promise, I only occasionally went bare with one or two longterm buddies -that I almost never see as they live in Texas, or when I had trouble staying hard inside a condom. So now one guy when I explained about my promise, decided by non-communication that he didn’t want to meet. The other guy when I explained-and I had met him a year ago and we had had a fairly nice time together-actually blocked me on the app. So now I can feel good because I have the moral high road of having kept my promise to not go bare with anyone but my Washington buddy. But I also have to deal with the thought that I could have been with two different cute guys if not for my promise. Plus the blocking really p-sses me off. And yes I could jerk off-probably will-but it hasn’t been that satisfying lately. Gman

In my experience I don’t think most escorts-at least escorts who list BFE-have problems with kissing. The ones who seem to have the most problem usually are the ones who advertise as straight, bisexuals who are strict tops-a good chance they are really almost completely straight and only g4pay-and the straight muscle worship guys. But then again those might be the guys you like to hire. And really unless there is an active herpes sore, it’s ridiculous as you can have asymptomatic virus shedding. That also means someone could get a genital herpes infection from receiving oral from someone with asymptomatic viral shedding. As an added bonus, condoms don’t necessarily prevent passage of the herpes virus. Gman

From the pictures he has very nice biceps and pits. If I were still hiring, I’d like to nibble on them for a while. Gman

As g-dless as the northeast were (are), I’m not sure y’all can hold a candle to the unchurched Pacific Northwest. Gman

In this more ‘enlightened’ age, I think the dorms at my Alma Mater decide visiting hours for themselves which I’m betting that probably the all-male dorms (if there are any left) and the coed dorms are 24/7. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the all female dorms still have restricted hours. I think Baylor University-the world’s largest Baptist University-probably still has strict visiting hours. Gman

Was this ‘legal’? Where I went to school, girls actually had a curfew until around 1967. I don’t think the boys did. I believe with a parental note the girls were allowed to stay out late. Years later when I went there, we still had visiting hours. And girls were definitely not allowed overnight. Gman

You are so flexible!! I’ve had sex in cars before-not often. And trying to top someone the once or twice I did was on the painful side. Gman

I always wonder about bisexual guys who advertise as strict tops. For all intents and purposes they might actually be straight and only claiming bisexuality to make themselves more acceptable to us. Gman

But couldn’t the term ‘red-flag’ also be a personal warning sign? In this case I took it to mean that it was the type of behavior that didn’t appeal to @Kyle Clinton. Although for me personally as long as it wasn’t too intrusive, and of course depending on how I liked the experience, I probably wouldn’t mind an occasional discreet inquiry from an escort. Gman

You might get a better response in The Spa. The Deli is more for escorts as opposed to masseurs. Gman

It was 2002. I was 41. I had kissed probably less than 10 girls/women in my life. I don’t think I had ever kissed a guy other than a chaste kiss to a relative. I had never French kissed anyone. I had never copped a feel of a breast or a tallywacker. While I was accomplished at masturbating, I was never part of a circle jerk. I had looked at the escort websites for 5 or 6 years, but I didn’t want to be gay (still don’t really. But I’m better). And I thought I would never be brave enough to hire. I thought there was a good chance I was going to die without ever experiencing sex-not die from not having sex-just that I was going to die before I ever became brave enough to have sex. For many of you who first had sex in your teens or twenties, you probably remember being nervous before your 1st time. Well imagine me. I had twenty something more years of being nervous, and knowing that most everyone my age had already had sex. I was like an older and less cute Steve Carrell. Finally I felt like I had to have sex. I talked -or at least hinted-to my psychiatrist at the time that I was thinking of hiring an escort. My recollection is that while he didn’t say go ahead, he gave me tacit approval. So I saw that an escort, former porn star whose website that I had looked at for years was coming to Cincinnati-Dallas Taylor. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pw4eLkzpxcU/UbP4WZEVxaI/AAAAAAAAQZw/EUP-R-L5IfA/s1600/DallasTaylor_AllWorlds_BearNecessities_001.jpg My remembrance is that he was staying at the Best Western Plus. It’s just over the Ohio River from Cincinnati in Covington, Ky. I made an appointment. Initially I made a one hour appointment. Then I called him back and extended it to two hours. When I arrived at the hotel, I tried looking in the parking lot for police vans in case it was a sting. I was also worried when I got to his room because there was another room right next to his. I thought that if it was a sting, they could be listening in from next door. Luckily it wasn’t a sting. I had told him this was my first time. He was probably thinking-great-at my nervousness. But he was very calm and gentle. He first taught me how to kiss. I remember him telling me that I was keeping my lips too firm. Before this I thought the idea of French kissing was gross. Why would I want my tongue in someone else’s mouth or his tongue in mine. I soon found out why I wanted both. I also learned that my ears and neck were an extreme erogenous zones. I totally found the truth in the old saying, “Blow in my ear, and I’ll follow you anywhere.” We showered together. It was great showering with this stocky muscular guy. He wasn’t as pretty as he had been when he was younger. But he was definitely handsome. I also remember thinking he had the largest tallywacker I had ever seen in my life. And even after being a bit more experienced nowadays, his is probably still one of the largest. After we showered we got into bed. He had two beds. I asked him why two. He said one was for work and the other was for him by himself. So after showering together we got into bed. There I was gone down on the first time. That felt incredible. Then he sat on top of me, so I could top him. That was a bit painful. But finally I wasn’t a virgin anymore. I’ll always be grateful to him. Gman

I’m not saying we don’t all need to be careful. I was scared before my 1st hire. I actually drove around the hotel parking lot a few times trying to look for police cars. But if you consider how much more frequently stings are done using female officers, then you most likely are on a lot safer ground. Also while nothing is certain, and any provider could be forced into participating in a sting, why don’t you look more at well-known guys? Constantly looking at unknown guys and wondering whether they are part of a sting operation would be very wearing on me. Gman

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How do you know? Gman

You’ve really never been to a health club/gym? I’m in horrible shape, but I’ve occasioanlly been to a gym although currently it’s been years. I think the last gym I went to had stalls. And what about bathhouses, most of them -or at least the ones I’ve been to-have open areas to shower. In junior high we were all around the pole. I remember they made us shower in 7th grade. I was a fat kid, and I hated it. Plus in 7th grade, the guys in competitive athletics still took normal PE. So there were some -albeit just entering puberty guys-in pretty good shape. After 7th grade, the competitive athletic guys had a last period PE just for them which then led directly to after school athletic practice. I don’t remember them being as strict on us showering when I was in 8th and 9th grade. And in 10th grade my last year of PE, I’m pretty sure the shower was open. But I don’t remember ever taking one. I probably should have. Soccer wasn’t an official sport in my school system. There was a soccer star who had to take regular PE. I don’t remember him being particularly muscular-but he was in my PE class, and I think he used to take showers. As for college, we only had a one year PE requirement. I took bowling and taekwando. I think the taekwando was off campus. But I never showered there even if there were showers available, which I can’t remember. Gman

You’ve really never been to a health club/gym? I’m in horrible shape, but I’ve occasionally been to a gym although currently it’s been years. I think the last gym I went to had stalls. And what about bathhouses, most of them -or at least the ones I’ve been to-have open areas to shower. (I don’t go very often. I mainly went when an escort couldn’t host. And since I’m not hiring now, QED. ) In junior high we were all around the pole. I remember they made us shower in 7th grade. I was a fat kid, kid and I hated it. Plus in 7th grade, the guys in competitive athletics still took normal PE. So there were some -albeit just entering puberty guys-in pretty good shape. After 7th grade, the competitive athletic guys had a last period PE just for them which then led directly to after school athletic practice. I don’t remember them being as strict on us showering when I was in 8th and 9th grade. And in 10th grade my last year of PE, I’m pretty sure the shower was open. But I don’t remember ever taking one. I probably should have. Soccer wasn’t an official sport in my school system. There was a soccer star who had to take regular PE. I don’t remember him being particularly muscular-but he was in my PE class, and I think he used to take showers. As for college, we only had a one year PE requirement. I took bowling and taekwando. I think the taekwando was off campus. But I never showered there even if there were showers available, which I can’t remember. Gman

In his ad he says he’ll Facetime. I wonder, if he’s not really the guy in the pictures, how he handles that. Gman

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