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I’m glad if you are on SW that you are only going to Chicago and that you have munchies. I used to have a non-sexual friend who lived in suburb of Baltimore -actually he still does although is about to move to Atlanta. I haven’t seen him for a long time due to financial circumstances. But when I had the money, I visited and once either took a SW flight from Baltimore all the way back to Seattle or possibly it was to Dallas. In either case there was a stop in Chicago. By the time I arrived at Midway I was extremely hungry. We weren’t changing planes, but the flight attendant told us how long we had before we had to re-board. But she had the time zones mixed up. We had much less time than she indicated. I think we only had 20 minutes. I remember being in line at the Potbelly worried it was taking too long. On a the plus side, I had never been to a Potbelly before. I’m a fan of their roast beef sandwich. But I make them put extra mayo on it as it has a tendency to be too dry without it. Gman

Now that would be telling. Gman

My libido is pretty low too. I don’t know if it’s from low testosterone or not. Last time it was checked- a few years back it was normal. But my libido was low then too. Gman

I think there is at least one lie on that website. I don’t think the drugs can be FDA approved if they aren’t legal here in the USA. One of the problems I have with these places is the problem of counterfeit drugs I saw a Dateline or similar program years ago where they found a shipment of totally fake Viagra. They looked exactly like the real thing. The only way you could tell the difference was on chemical analysis. Gman

While technically the patent doesn’t expire until 2020, Teva has come to an agreement with Pfizer and is selling a generic. But Teva’s generic is still expensive. At this point, getting generic Revatio is still much, much cheaper. I can get the equivalent of 6-100 mg doses for about $19. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viagra-to-go-generic-in-2017-according-to-pfizer-agreement/ Gman

I’m sure you can get a paper prescription if you ask for it. There are always reasons-for example you might be going out of town on a trip-and need one in case you run out. Gman

But the bottle itself should say the name of the prescription. If the bottle says Sildenafil, rather than Revatio, then it’s the generic. Also here are pictures of the branded Revatio. http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/rbi80dz8fg84ap3/File%20Jan%2011%2C%202%2051%2013%20PM.png?dl=0 Gman

Are you sure you are getting Revatio and not generic Revatio? I’ve never seen that low a price for branded Revatio anywhere. If it’s really that low, I’d love to know the pharmacy. Gman

That’s a good price. If you don’t mind taking multiple tablets, the generic 20 mg tablet can probably be obtained for about the same price using GoodRx. I can get it for about .59 cents a tablet, so taking 5 costs me about $2.95. There’s the inconvenience of taking 5 tablets, but the convenience of being able to pick it up at a nearby pharmacy But thanks for the info on Big Mountain. Gman

I’ll have to agree. I hadn’t seen pictures of him in a while. It seems to me that when I saw him last, he had some stripes on his abdomen and some type of sunburst or mandala on his arm. These new ones are a shame. Gman

That’s too bad. He can be a bit reserved, but I count him in my top 10 experiences. A quick story... This was years ago. I had been visiting Los Angeles. I had always wanted to meet him. But he had retired for a bit. The day I was leaving I saw he was in LA and advertising. I believe he was staying in Beverly Hills, but I’m not familiar with the LA area so it might have been somewhere else. I decided that it was worth the possibility of missing my plane to see him. I called him up, and he was available. He gave me his directions, and I drove to see him. Once I got there, I was really nervous-not about meeting him but about missing my plane. He was very nice throughout it all. When he were finished meeting, I tried to pay him more than we had agreed upon because I had been so nervous throughout the meeting. He refused to take the extra. Gman

Big Pharma is getting ridiculous. I just priced 6 branded Viagra 100 mg pills using GoodRx. The least expensive price was $389. That’s $64.83 a pill. I know I didn’t play that back around 2005. I never would have been able to afford it. I think they were around $20 a pill then. Is this massive price increase recent since the generic came out? What market are they going for? I doubt an insurance company, unless they have a deal with Pfizer, is going to cover Viagra -assuming they cover ED drugs at all-when the generic is about $18 a pill. Gman

I should have said in the majority of cases generics are usually considered to be equivalent to brand name. But even I know some examples where they aren’t. I believe there can be problems with timed-release formulations with generics compared to the branded drug, I know that my father’s physician wanted him to get branded Coumadin (a blood thinner) rather than the generic warfarin. I also know that the standards for most generics don’t say the absorption has to be 100% of the branded drug-they are allowed a range of absorption. I’ve even had experience where a long time ago I was taking generic adderall. I could definitely feel a difference in effect between two different brands of generics. But as regards Revatio vs generic sildenafil, I have not been able to find anything that says Revatio is approved for erectile dysfunction and the generic of it isn’t. ***** On another note-as probably a lot of people know. Viagra itself is now generic. But the generic is still on the expensive side. Teva is one company making a generic. I found a prescription assistance program Teva was offering for those with non-governmental insurance-Medicare, Medigap, and Tricare don’t qualify either-where Teva would pay up to a $100 copay for 6 tablets. Google Teva Assistance Program and you should be able to find it. For some reason the assistance program for Viagra at least is not available in Massachusetts and won’t be in California starting sometime in June 2018. Gman

Unless I’ve misunderstood the discussions I’ve had regarding generics with my own physicians over the years (which is not impossible) or the laws of NYC are different than a lot of other states (I’ve lived in multiple states), I’d have to say that what your physician has told you seems very wrong to me. Sildenafil is a generic. Generics are approved for the same treatments as the branded drug. Many states even have laws that prescriptions can be filled with generics if the doctor approves. Would any of the physicians on the Forum comment on this? Plus from my reading of the drug information sheet for Revatio, it seems to me that Revatio is indicated for a disease called pulmonary hypertension not erectile dysfunction. Erections while using Revatio for pulmonary hypertension would be considered a side effect. As for your price for Revatio, I have to wonder if it’s being convered by your insurance. Because if not, then NYC has the cheapest prices for Revatio that I’ve ever seen. In fact I just plugged a zip code for the Upper East Side into the GoodRx app. Here are the non-insurance prices for 90 Revatio tablets using a GoodRx coupon at local pharmacies http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/pm0osfo8chu6i0y/File%20Jan%2011%2C%209%2056%2004%20AM.png?dl=0 And here are the non insurance NYC prices for generic sildenafil using a GoodRx coupon. These prices are pharmacy specific. As you can see at the bottom, Walgreens/Duane Reed would charge $432 dollars for 90 tablets whereas Acme Markets only charges $37.10 http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/duz5l6iud8lm53p/File%20Jan%2011%2C%209%2055%2043%20AM.png?dl=0 Prices can definitely change over time. I originally used the GoodRx coupon for generic sildenafil at Walmart. Then that became very expensive even with the coupon. I currently get a low price for the tablets at Safeway. (Which just as an FYI if you are in Texas would be the same price at Randall’s in Houston or Tom Thumb in Dallas). Gman

Well it’s not always the best. But in many cases we have more choice. For example, I was at a lecture on Ethics in the 1980’s by one of the first women pediatric surgeons. She was probably in her early 70’s at that point. She had retired and had obtained a Master’s in Medical Ethics from the UK. While telling us about the wonders of socialized medicine, she did bring up a hypothetical of someone her age needing a kidney transplant. She said they told her the National Health wouldn’t ok it for someone her age-but that they would for her since she was a physician. So no system is perfect. Gman

I realize this is an old thread. And I don’t know whether my comment will be needed. I found the thread and @jjkrkwood’s comment whole searching for something else. I’d like to make a small corection to @jjkrkwood’s comment above-and again I realize someone may have already caught it. But there are at least 63 posts in this thread, and I don’t want to go thru them all (sorry) While if not covered by insurance, it is cheaper to take the 20 mg sildenafil tablets, it’s the generic that sildenafil and not the name brand (Revatio) 20 mg which is cheaper. Revatio is very, very expensive. Here are screenshots from the GoodRx app (an app and website where you you can often obtain free coupons that give large discounts on medications that aren’t covered by insurance. Occasionally it might make the medications cheaper than expensive copays. The classic Goodrx is free. Anyone can download the app or use the website. There is also apparently a new subscription option which might save you more money-but I haven’t looked into it yet). Revatio Pricing using GoodRx at my local pharmacies http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/67ado4l1azrixo0/File%20Jan%2010%2C%209%2043%2029%20PM.png?dl=0 And the prices using the GoodRX coupon for generic Revatio-ie sildenafil http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/nm71buw1rvu92xs/File%20Jan%2010%2C%209%2043%2047%20PM.png?dl=0 Gman

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Happy Natal Day Anniversary -two days late!! Gman

Obviously not all gay men like to kiss. So it just brings up the question of whether maybe he likes to save kissing for his private relationships or whether he’s only bisexual for money-ie gay4pay. Gman

I’m not sure how not being a member works exactly. I would have thought if they had actually deleted their accounts then you wouldn’t still be able to use the @ function with their Forum ID. If you click on his name in one of his posts, however, he has chosen the option to have his profile not reachable. Gman

Does that mean you decided to start therapy? Possibly you mentioned this. But it’s a long thread, and I might have missed a post or three. I’ve always had a problem understanding the concept of transference. Or at least-when I hear it described-it seems like textbooks and therapists reserve this concept for what happens between a patient... pardon me, I think we are supposed to be clients now. The Latin root of the word patient is of course pati which means ‘to suffer’. So of course we who were formerly patients need a name change to clients for the comfort of the 1% or less who know what the root of patient is. But as I was saying-I’ve never understood why this concept of transference is reserved for the therapist/client relationship. It seems to me that transference-if it is real at all-must happen frequently in most relationships. But maybe I’m wrong. It wouldn’t be the 1st time. Gman

Just some FYIs here-this thread was started in 2015 by @Mikegaite-an escort who hasn’t posted on here in a long while. The last post before yours on here was 11 months ago. I’m always curious how new members find these old threads. Care to tell us how you found it, @phraughy? Also unless he has an alternate Forum identity, @Kuriousity hasn’t posted on here in at least a year. Of course it’s always possible he checks the Forum without logging in. The other interesting thing about him is that I think he said his avatar was a true picture of him. If I looked like that, I doubt I would have ever needed to have hired-or at least not needed to very often. Gman

I realize all of us are different. I’m a lonely guy. But I don’t need that type of fantasy. That’s treading into a dangerous area for me. What I want from an escort is more like a friend with benefits type of relationship. And even the friend part might be asking too much. I’ve had escorts I’ve saw for several years. They always said I was pretty easy to get along with. I hope they were telling the truth. But now that I don’t hire, the only one I hear from occasionally is @Tygerscent. I thought at least one specifically (maybe a few others) actually liked me enough to occasionally check in with me. But he really hasn’t. Gman

My lips are on the thicker side. I don’t know whether this is natural or if they are the only muscles I’ve ever really managed to build up. When I was a youngster, I was diagnosed with a tongue thrust. It had caused me to have a pretty large overbite. The orthodontists told my parents that if I didn’t have it corrected, once I was finished with my headgear and braces, the overbite would return. So I went to a Myofunctional Therapist for about a year. I don’t even know if this is still a possible career choice or not. But she had to train my tongue to fit in the roof of my mouth as my tongue at the time instead of arching up rested more on the floor of munchings mouth and the tip constantly pressed against my bottom teeth in stead of staying in that depression in the roof of your mouth. Please no sexual innuendoes. I was 11 and 12. I had to do several exercises both on my tongue and my lips. One of the exercises had a button tied to each end of a kite string. I had to put the button behind my lips and in front of my teeth and someone pulled on the string to bring the button out of my mouth. There was a button on the other end in case I could get a family member to put the second button in their mouth and we would play a tug-of-war. There was also another exercises. There where these plastic discs with a hole in the center. They were each supposed to weigh about as much as a marshmallow. There was a bit of twine-like the drawstring on a parka -or actually a bit thicker-like the drawstring on a bag. The string had a knot on one end. The marshmallow weights were slipped onto the string and kept from falling off by the knot on the end. I would take the free end of the string into my mouth, and I was supposed to use my lips to manipulate the string into my mouth and bring the weights up to my lips. I remember I started with only one or a couple of weights on the string, and built up to being able to bring the string up to my lips with probably 7 to 10 weights on the end. @Rudynate can you tell us anything about the state of myofunctional therapy today-or what has replaced it-for curing people of tongue thrusts? Gman

I am actually attracted to many Asian men, but these guys are too androgynous for me. And I was never attracted to Mick Jagger. Gman