studchaser

Are we starting this arguments again in this new thread....

No politics for this thread. Sexual behavior and sexual attraction are not the same. A man engaging  in sex with another man is partaking in a homosexual act.  Whether that man goes home to jerk off to busty Brazilian babes or hunks of Rio De Janeiro is another thing  The ones going home to lust after Brazilian babes are straight in my book no matter what they do when earning money. Lets try not to split hairs much further than this. When someone says xyz is not straight it should be because they believe that provider is not going home to jerk to Brazilian busty babes. Arguing over definitions isn't getting us anywhere and just gonna get the thread shut down.
 
Maybe if ppl wanna hash it out open a spinoff thread discussing sexuality on another subforum .

Any new providers? Food for thought dont just link anyone who labels themself straight but is a parody. No one can say anyones sexuality with complete certainty but some ppp can be disqualified based on certain criteria  and to add them to the fiscussion would be fir the purpose of feeding our contrarian inner child.

No politics for this thread. Sexual behavior and sexual attraction are not the same. A man engaging  in sex with another man is partaking in a homosexual act.  Whether that man goes home to jerk off to busty Brazilian babes or hunks of Rio De Janeiro is another thing  The ones going home to lust after Brazilian babes are straight in my book no matter what they do when earning money. Lets try not to split hairs much further than this. When someone says xyz is not straight it should be because they believe that provider is not going home to jerk to Brazilian busty babes. Arguing over definitions isn't getting us anywhere and just gonna get the thread shut down.
 
Maybe if ppl wanna hash it out open a spinoff thread discussing sexuality on another subforum .

No politics for this thread. Sexual behavior and sexual attraction are not the same. A man engaging  in sex with another man is partaking in a homosexual act.  Whether that man goes home to jerk off to busty Brazilian babes or hunks of Rio De Janeiro is another thing  The ones going home to lust after Brazilian babes are straight in my book no matter what they do when earning money. Lets try not to split hairs much further than this. When someone says xyz is not straight it should be because they believe that provider is not going home to jerk to Brazilian busty babes. Arguing over definitions isn't getting us anywhere and just gonna get the thread shut down.
 
Maybe if ppl wanna hash it out open a spinoff thread discussing sexuality on another subforum .

No politics for this thread. Sexual behavior and sexual attraction are not the same. A man engaging  in sex with another man is partaking in a homosexual act.  Whether that man goes home to jerk off to busty Brazilian babes or hunks of Rio De Janeiro is another thing  The ones going home to lust after Brazilian babes are straight in my book no matter what they do when earning money. Lets try not to split hairs much further than this. When someone says xyz is not straight it should be because they believe that provider is not going home to jerk to Brazilian busty babes. Arguing over definitions isn't getting us anywhere and just gonna get the thread shut down.
 
Maybe if ppl wanna hash it out open a spinoff thread discussing sexuality on another subforum .

No politics for this thread. Sexual behavior and sexual attraction are not the same. A man engaging  in sex with another man is partaking in a homosexual act.  Whether that man goes home to jerk off to busty Brazilian babes or hunks of Rio De Janeiro is another thing  The ones going home to lust after Brazilian babes are straight in my book no matter what they do when earning money. Lets try not to split hairs much further than this. When someone says xyz is not straight it should be because they believe that provider is not going home to jerk to Brazilian busty babes. Arguing over definitions isn't getting us anywhere and just gonna get the thread shut down.
 
Maybe if ppl wanna hash it out open a spinoff thread discussing sexuality on another subforum .

No politics for this thread. Sexual behavior and sexual attraction are not the same. A man engaging  in sex with another man is partaking in a homosexual act.  Whether that man goes home to jerk off to busty Brazilian babes or hunks of Rio De Janeiro is another thing  The ones going home to lust after Brazilian babes are straight in my book no matter what they do when earning money. Lets try not to split hairs much further than this. When someone says xyz is not straight it should be because they believe that provider is not going home to jerk to Brazilian busty babes. Arguing over definitions isn't getting us anywhere and just gonna get the thread shut down.
 
Maybe if ppl wanna hash it out open a spinoff thread discussing sexuality on another subforum .

Iterations of this thread pop up time to time because many of us like straight guys and trade. All those who post on this thread should either have an interest in straight men or feedback on a straight provider. 
Also just because someone has listed straight doesn't mean that should be tsken at face value. Use your street smarts and common sense 
Anyone have great feedback on authentic straight providers?

Finally, somebody said it! THANK YOU!!! For so many years they told us they weren't gay or lesbian, just "born in the wrong body". We tolerated them in all our clubs and venues for we felt they had no place to of their own and many if not most did live a double life as gay-trans or gay-drag. Yet in larger cities when they did have their own places in other parts of town and NOT in the Gayborhoods we weren't welcome there because they said we and our presence "spooked" the straight/curious men that sought them. How's that for inclusion in the "community"?! Fast forward to the present time, they have done more to damage all the gay "community" has gained in just my lifetime alone as far as rights, acceptance and understanding, to the point of we're on the verge of losing it all because of this backlash from heterosexuals who feel they are threatening their children, woman's rights, womanhood, sports and more! Transgenderism is NOT the same as Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual! For a sexual attraction is not the same as Gender Dysphoria! No hate towards them, but let's call things as they are and stop embracing and promoting their delusion. I honestly feel sorry for many of them. It must be sad feeling they don't conform to their gender or bodies. But I have no point of reference for as a homosexual male and as much as I love men and desire them sexually, I have never wanted to be a woman nor felt like a woman. I've had many straight female friends in my life and felt I have understood them more that their straight male partners, but never felt I was one of them nor part of their gender. 

I agree with your sentiment here.
This refuting of the "straight-acting" personality is another product of this trend in gay society to suppress mainstream culture, and elevate those who have traditionally lived in the margins.  Although I think we can all agree that people who don't "fit in" should not be persecuted, and have every right to live their life in a way that makes them happy, the rest of us shouldn't be forced to celebrate them as our own heroes.  You don't need to tear down everyone's history, to make room for your own.
Masculinity has absolute biological preference. So let's stop pretending we don't know what "gay acting" and "straight acting" means.  You can certainly support people's rights for self determination, without pretending to not see the differences. This new social justice ideology of blending everyone as "the same" is ridiculous and anti-intellectual.  We can all live together if we simply learn to be tolerant of our differences instead of pretending they don't exist.
If a provider advertises as "straight", we know he means "straight acting". Most of them aren't actually straight. It's all a performance and marketing. I know I personally admired the big tall masculine guys on the sports teams. I used to swoon when Tom Brady lived nearby and he'd say hello to me at the local coffee shop when I'd bump into him there. Yes, I would be more likely to contribute more to the fantasy of a chance with a "str8" guy than I would with an obviously gay guy. It's always what we CAN'T get so easily, that we want more and will pay more to get it.

Oh, you trust your common sense. Now I understand.

You are a master sophist. We are blessed with our common sense as humans. We can fail to use it if we choose or we can utilize it. I am guilty of the latter.

You are a master sophist. We are blessed with our common sense as humans. We can fail to use it if we choose or we can utilize it. I am guilty of the latter.

Where is the lie? If a trans is lost on a desert island away from their hormones they sre gonna grow a mean 5 ockock shadow. The bra they are wearing will fall off if they didnt get implants. I actually feel most trans who want to be women are inconsiderate of women. They want to compete against them in sports and rob them of glory. They want to force themself into womens spaces where they may not be welcomed. Like others have said you cant reduce women to sexy clothes ,makeup and hair styling. Trans are just super fem gay men for the most part who dont wanna take the heat 

They cant miss me cuz they dont know me and its ok lol. 

You are a master sophist. We are blessed with our common sense as humans. We can fail to use it if we choose or we can utilize it. I am guilty of the latter.

Where is the lie? If a trans is lost on a desert island away from their hormones they sre gonna grow a mean 5 ockock shadow. The bra they are wearing will fall off if they didnt get implants. I actually feel most trans who want to be women are inconsiderate of women. They want to compete against them in sports and rob them of glory. They want to force themself into womens spaces where they may not be welcomed. Like others have said you cant reduce women to sexy clothes ,makeup and hair styling. Trans are just super fem gay men for the most part who dont wanna take the heat 

They cant miss me cuz they dont know me and its ok lol. 

I dont actually think most gay men are feminine . Its more nuanced than that. I just believe on avg gay men aren't as masculine as straight men. I live in NY and have worked events back in the day that are geared to gay men. When hundreds if not thousands of gay men show up on one day you can record your own anecdotal evidence. 
The issue is not that these men are bad ppl or unworthy. They have the right to be who they want. If on a scale of 1 to 10 for masculinity i want a 10 I can tell you you are going to need a straight guy for that. The truth is we all know this even the ones playing contrarian and devils advocate but like the govt appointed public defender I appreciate you for making the case 

I dont actually think most gay men are feminine . Its more nuanced than that. I just believe on avg gay men aren't as masculine as straight men. I live in NY and have worked events back in the day that are geared to gay men. When hundreds if not thousands of gay men show up on one day you can record your own anecdotal evidence. 
The issue is not that these men are bad ppl or unworthy. They have the right to be who they want. If on a scale of 1 to 10 for masculinity i want a 10 I can tell you you are going to need a straight guy for that. The truth is we all know this even the ones playing contrarian and devils advocate but like the govt appointed public defender I appreciate you for making the case 

Trust me. No one is missing your self-hating ass at Pride, "studchaser." 🤣

Being a realist doesn't make one a trans-phobe.
The Journal of Critical Realism would support my position.
https://doi.org/10.1080/14767430.2018.1493884
An acrimonious debate has emerged about transgenderism. Trans-activists defending the full spectrum of the latter have advocated a form of identity politics based upon individual self-definition. However, gender-critical feminists (within another current of identity politics) have disputed the legitimacy of these bids for self-determination, especially when considering men who are claiming to be women. These contrasting positions are examined and their political implications explored. The focus of the paper is on the intransitive aspects of sex and the transitive aspects of gender. The former, with rare exceptions, is a binary whereas the latter is open to social negotiation and variation. The article argues that the gender-critical position is broadly aligned with critical realist philosophy, though the counter view is represented in order to clarify this point of reflection. It ends with a discussion of the ‘trans debate’ and the public policy development emerging in its wake.

No one has their own truth.
Facts are facts.
You may be a dude who wants to live like a woman, and I have no problem with that fact.
I do have a problem with people creating a false reality and expecting me to play along.
Feeling like a woman doesn't make you a woman.

Let's see how many immediately deny the science -
Although much research has commonly used heterosexual samples, both lab and field studies on romantic partner preferences amongst gay men, consistently highlight a commonplace desire for masculine over feminine traits in potential partners. (Bailey et al., 1997; Clarkson, 2006; Laner & Kamel, 1977; Sanchez & Vilain, 2012; Tayawaditep, 2002). Sanchez and Vilain (2012)