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Once you return home and begin to reflect on your most recent trip, "Mother Brazil" and all that it has to offer you and others will definitely beckon you back.   
And since you now know and realize how much "play" and "size" that you can endure, you'll more than likely be for the better your second time around.  You could also practice by purchasing a good dildo and slightly stretching your anal cavity.  Using fingers also can help in that department as well.
I don't like pain, and it is worse for me when it lingers.  
About six months ago, when I was in San Francisco and with my usual "go to guy," he really pummeled me the point of my having to ask him nicely to stop.  He felt oh so friggin', friggin' good that it scared me: I thought his sexual prowess and expertise would bring on a heart attack for me in spite of my not suffering from heart problems.
Well, much to his chagrin, he honored my wishes.  But to this day, I continue to ask myself if I should have allowed him to continue to please me and my "THIRD RING" for it did feel oh so fucking hot and very, very good.  He had me panting....
 

Agree with @coriolis888 There's no need to go to Republic, as those movie theaters are not only subpar but also unsanitary. I'm quite adventurous and enjoy mingling with locals, and Republic doesn't offer much in that regard. It's mostly an empty area with a lot of disheartened or intimidating individuals.
Furthermore, after spending time at bathhouses and clubs, I found myself lacking the energy I needed to rest and make the most of my free time exploring the sights and indulging in some shopping – and yes, I did quite a bit of shopping, thanks to the amazing prices. so is not worth, Dedalos bar is in the area, but i always took a Uber there, never walked for that area.
i need vacation to recuperate for all those GP that destroyed my  🕳️. i havent even changed any of my plans for nov/dec, i am not sure if i am up to travel again.

That is a nice upgrade but are the dancers who l looking forward. Keep the place the same but hire new/more dancers. 

thanks @coriolis888 it is wise to be extra careful. In my case i bet i will end up getting drive everywhere and anywhere. Specially after getting pound so hard by those GP, i guess i am not as in good shape as used to, and took a lot of GP the same day
I am still paying the consequences of the excess i indulged in SP. it was really good, but painful ;/ i may need to hang the Bottom Out of Order sign 

Sorry, but for safety reasons of forum members who will visit Rio, I must make corrections to the above:
The street leading to the favela is NOT PAST sauna 202, walking from the beach to the sauna.  That uphill street leading to the favela is BEFORE you reach sauna 202 traveling from the beach area toward sauna 202.  
I make this correction because I do not want to read about a forum member(s) accidentally taking the wrong street that leads to an unfavorable event after entering a favela. 
Again, the described street that leads to a highly dangerous favela is before you reach sauna 202, not past that sauna (walking from Copacabana beach or area). 
Another correction I want to make is that the uphill street in question (that leads to the favela) is NOT near the  downtown beach area of Copacabana.  Sauna 202 and that uphill street (that leads to the favela) is about five or six blocks from the Copacabana beach but less than half a block from sauna 202.
Safety is critical to having a great vacation in Brazil.  
 

I am already scheduling my November Brazil trip. For my birthday:) 
so I want to check both cities  
I was wondering if you guys recommend SP first and then Rio or Rio and the SP? 
it looks like those two cities are pretty close, any advice for a newbie’s first Rio/ SP trip
my birthdays used to be at Montreal, then Barcelona/Zurich,  but, I am canceling my Bcn birthday trip for Brazil I am curious about 117 and 202  

i didnt go to Rio, i am glad i didnt, i dont think i can handled so, i alredy book my next trip and i include Rio and i will report
i think, dont making any assumptions, but i have similar taste as @tassojunior but i didnt see but two or less of pretty boys/masc boys most of them were A Brazilian "garoto" guy with tanned skin with a mix of ethnic backgrounds, What truly sets a Brazilian garoto guy apart is his friendly and outgoing nature. their warm smile and love for socializing.  
I felt for one that i called the mulato jake gyllenhaal, such a gorgeous face and even nicer demeanor 
cant wait for continuing discovering new places. 
 
Edit, my bad, i meant Tassojunior

I strongly recommend that you not visit that favela. 
Even though @José Soplanucas mentioned that he had inadvertently gone to the favela and found the people friendly, do not count on the same friendly experience if you go there.  

I confused you.  The favela is up a street about one-half block before you reach Sauna 202.  
As you walk down Rua Siqueira Campus on the way towards sauna 202, you pass a street with a steep hill going up.  It is that street that leads to the favela.  I do not remember the name of the street but it is the only street you pass.

I am already scheduling my November Brazil trip. For my birthday:) 
so I want to check both cities  
I was wondering if you guys recommend SP first and then Rio or Rio and the SP? 
it looks like those two cities are pretty close, any advice for a newbie’s first Rio/ SP trip
my birthdays used to be at Montreal, then Barcelona/Zurich,  but, I am canceling my Bcn birthday trip for Brazil I am curious about 117 and 202  

Your decision will be based on how much you want to see Rio.  You recently got to know Sao Paulo.  
As you know, there are direct flights into Rio or Sao Paulo from the U.S.  
I personally prefer to spend more time in Sao Paulo than in Rio because there is so much more to do in Sao Paulo and the city is safer than Rio.  Rio has a large beach and two popular saunas and a higher crime rate than does Sao Paulo.     
Sauna wise, in Rio, you have:
Clube 117 which is a fun place and never disappointed me in the many years and times I visited there. 
Clube 202 can be a fun and busy place and easy to meet garotos.  However, the owner, Junior, likes LOUD
music which, when he is there, turns up the music loud which makes it difficult to have a conversation with the garotos or anyone else while in the sauna.  His sauna is located in Copacabana, right near a favela which makes it easier for street crime to come down the hill and bother people on the street near the sauna then quickly escape back up the hill.
There is also one smaller sauna in Rio that I never saw but supposedly has very young thin garotos.  I do not recall the name of the sauna.  
So, given the above and if it were I and the first time in Brazil, I would book Rio for a few days then proceed to Sao Paulo for the remainder of my vacation.  Of course, this is what I would do.  
When you travel between Rio and SP, while in Brazil, there is no need to go to the far out international airports.  There is a smaller downtown airport in both Rio and SP. - Congonas and Santos Dumont airports. 
It is only about an hour flight between the downtown two city airports.    

I really like Lagoa. It has great selection of men.
of course! 117 and 202 has even better but Lagoa is not too far behind IMO.
the thing with me is that i find 117 and 202 so dirty and old whereas Lagoa is much cleaner than those two and a lot more modern.
just because of that i choose Sao Paulo over Rio for a sexcation. 

At HotHouse. Not that many people but the gogo dancers are really hot and dance like is a huge crowd. 
j already use a towel to dry one of them. That hottie in the pic. 
I bet it will get wild   
Now I am going to Dangerclub
 
the DangerClub opens at midnight  and the area is not bad  actually is like a hipster place  while I wait to open I am having a beer and some snacks , the place is full of hipster Brazilians,  a lot of hot guys as bartender and as clients  
 I kind of like it here, there is this skinny hipster bartender do fucking hot  I wish it was a gogo dancer like that   
 
once is 12 I will go to Danger and then


this is Danger entrance 


I feel quite safe, between the hipster and Grindr full of mostly bottoms. 
and i
look very gringo. But no one has treated me any differently 

i posted this in the other sites, i hope it helps for those newbies english speakers looking for hot brazilian guys in Sao Paulo, you can only go to Lacoa and you will have the best time. So, here is my step by step at the Sauna Espaco Lagoa:
Have you ever been to Thermas in BCN or Paragoyna in Zurich? Well, Espaco Lagoa Sauna is quite similar, complete with a bar for drinks and food .
You can use your cell phone; walk around with it The guys or garotos may have limited English skills, but you won't need to do much talking. I used Google Translate and some sign language when necessary. A guy willl ask for 150 to 200 Reales.
If you spot a garoto walking around fully clothed there chances are he isn't good for sex . I learned this the hard way when I encountered two hot guys, fully dressed. One didn't treated me well and the other one has a good hard on but he was a cold dish. While the hot ones will show what they have with no problem and some walkiing around with a big hard on, it can be a All you can eat feast of men,
It can be a bit overwhelming at times, but there  are way more delicious guys compared to other saunas i mentioned above. Only a few garotos are pushy, and I didn't entertain them. 
If you appreciate well-endowed guys you're in for a feast. Some garotos will surprise you with their humongous cocks . I went to Lacoa from 5 pm to late 9 pm, taking breaks because I could barely sit after some of the guys.
I typically offered 150 Reales, not to be cheap, but to gauge their reaction. Most likely, their reacted good or bad so it was a good filter,  The hotter ones might expect 200 Reales and if they treated you nicely when they went up to 200, go ahead and say yes.
Upon entering the Lagoa , they'll provide you with a locker key, two towels sealed in plastic bags (they're that good), and flip-flops. Head up one floor where you'll find a bar with tables, similar to Barcelona Thermas. After meeting with a guy, you'll go another floor up to another cashier who'll give you a private room. I can't recall the exact prices, but there's a basic option with a TV and a bed that can get quite warm. My favorite, costing 55 Reales, includes AC, TV with movies, and a private bathroom. Called suites
There's a third floor with more private rooms, starting from room number 13 and onwards. Additionally, there's a small bar, a small gym for the guys, and a TV room.
Just when you think you've had the best guy, a new garoto with an amazing body/cock will show up. I often wished I could split myself in two or more to savor all the succulent garotos. As in any sauna with gayforPay, the best garotos are in high demand, so if you find one, grab them. but they always will be busy and not hanging around for too long
While some gartotos may not meet your expectations, considering the price range of 150-200 Reales (roughly 30 to 40 American dollars), it's a great deal for a try and error. Sao Paulo boasts some of the hottest and nicest guys. i saw all types, mostly masculines, and by 6 /7 pm were a lot muscle guys, blonde black and in between 
Best of luck, and feel free to ask if you have any questions. I'm typing on my phone, so please forgive any typos. 😜
Tonight, I plan to visit one of the stripper bars, and I'll provide you all with a report on those places. I'm not a young guy, so the garotos at the sauna wore me out, if you catch my drift. 😆 I have to recuperate during the daytime. And if you're a expert/slutty bottom, like me, be prepared. Even the most experienced and voracious bottom will be exhausted by the end of the day. I wish I had some numbing cream to handle those real 9/10 inches. Of course, not all the guys are that well-endowed, but I'd say about half of them are.

agree, Lagoa looked new, and i liked it a lot the suits with the bathroom. I walked every time, except on Saturday and Sunday that it was rainy. and that area close to Hermitage it was pretty nice and i was surprised in how close i was to a side of the Paulista Avenue. the one that has a mall with the Santander bank in the front.
have anyone stayed at the Transamerica Executive Paulista hotel? it looks really nice and is still within the proximity, besides i Uber everywhere, so i will choose this one over the  Hermitage
Also, Mon to Friday was a nice warm weather, but Friday night, Sat, and Sund got kind of chilly, and rainy

Yes. The area around Lagoa is quite nice and very gay. Like a lot gay couples holding hands. 
I was very aware of my surroundings, but the only place that looked more than shady was around Republic. It looked kind of sad, unkempt, and dirty, with all these homeless people around.
 
Unfortunately , I was told that  there are no more Hop-On Hop off  buses in SP. 
So, I used a taxi as my personal driver, and he took me to a lot of places, including the worst of them all: Estação da Luz, . The driver didn't want me to go there or get out of the car while there, but I insisted because all the sites for the Hop-On and Hop-Off buses indicated that the starting point was that location. Despite it being 10 am, he quickly drove me out of there.
 I am not planning on comeback to any of those places 

Soon, I'll be back in the States. 
As I mentioned earlier, I went to Hothouse. On Thursday, I was too tired to stay until 2 am, so I left after one of the first gogo shows. The dancers were incredibly hot, but my body was screaming for a bed. I'm not the type of guy who can stay out that late. Then, on Friday, I returned to Hothouse, and the dancers were even hotter. This time, I went back to my hotel to rest for a bit and headed back to Hothouse at 12:30. Friday wasn't as crowded either, but it was a lot of fun. I discovered that there were two dark rooms there – one was slightly lit for clients to mingle, and the other was almost pitch black. It had an L-shaped layout, making it discreet from the sides. Around 2 am, people started going in and out of that area. Since there weren't too many people, it was easy to see who was there. Some of the clients were also from Lagoa. As another user mentioned in a different thread, there's a young hipster at the entrance. For me, anyone wearing glasses and looking under 30 falls into the hipster category -  He provides you with a card that they use to bill you whenever you order a drink. I was glad they did this because I could pay with my credit card and save cash for other purposes.
Hothouse resembles Taboo in Montreal, but I apologize for using Montreal as a reference. The bars in Montreal are well-known to forum members. However, I have to admit that Montreal has more life than Hothouse, probably due to its convenient location in The Village whereas Hothouse is in a less popular area. Returning to the topic of sex that night, the two boys called "interactives." I wasn't particularly hot, actually kind of not that good looking, but i will always leave the what is hot and what is not to each person, so I  just looked at them intercting with the clients, but decided to leave since I was already full from everything I ate at Lagoa. (literally and figuratively) Oh, boy, now i get the those brazilian are hung. i have to adjust my body to take some of them.
About the Lagoa shows, it's actually quite enjoyable.
By the time the show starts, you've already indulged in so many  guys/cks that you welcome the entertainment break  Those in the IG post below, were the gogo for that night, but they dont hang around; I sense that these gogo looked down on those GP who were working at the sauna, which is a shame, but to each their own. However, two of them  even shared their WhatsApp numbers with me one for 600 reals asnd to other for 1k reais. but i didnt need them and i prefer my GP nicenesscand willingness, i am sucker for good hearted GP  I didn't see a single woman; there were only two drag performances waiting for their turn. I lost track of time, but the shows usually start around 10 pm, and as is typical with saunas with boys, the best ones were already gone. Actually, as i mentioned before, some walk in and barely lasted in the common areas and they were gone in less than an hour AGAIN, the ones all dressed up not using a towel are such a bummers, i felt to follow my own advice and it was this blonde paulista, so handsome but so dull and not body or hungness. while the were some garotos that are in my own record Guinness of hung and hard, oh my lord I also stayed for the bingo night, something I hadn't done in almost 30 years, so it was a lot of fun.  The best GPs are often taken by regular clients. I observed a similar situation at Paragonya, where some attractive ones were consistently with a group of regular clients, making it difficult for others to approach them. Although I won't do it myself, as it would frustrate me if I were with my own GP, having drinks and inviting them to dinner while another person tries to get their attention, there were at least three GPs who never left the side of their  clients/friends. These gps were, to say the least, stunning. The only day I would say wasn't a good mix of guys was on Thursday. I wished I had known about Lagoa earlier because there were a lot of hot gp and I even saw some who were even hotter and more handsome.  but this time, I focused more on the lower part  and length  of the GPs' bodies instead of my usual preference for guys like  Sean Cody meets Bel Ami boys Friday dancers at Lagoa that also danced at HotHouse
By the way, I met a forum member, his username was Yorki or something similar, and he said he would DM me. He seemed to be having a lot of fun with the menu. I don't know if it was because he's a Latino guy, but he was interacting quite a bit with all the guys.
Afterward, I stopped by DangerClub, which was promoting interactive waitresses, but I didn't see any. The backroom I mentioned earlier was empty, and for some reason, I wasn't charged a cover fee, so I left within 10 minutes. It was late for me, and I was looking forward to seeing what the rest of the weekend had in store.
I must admit that if it had only been Lagoa, that would have been more than fine. I had the best time there, and my wallet is feeling it. I'll provide a more detailed account of Saturday and Sunday, but I had plenty of hits on Tinder, and I didn't even need to look elsewhere. Lagoa had everything I was looking for. I wonder what it was like here before COVID, as I had to make choices about who to spend time with. I ended up having three "friend experiences" where we hung out together, had some drinks, and repeated the fun.
I tried to check out other places like 555, but with my limited energy and knowing that I couldn't find the same type of GP (general practitioners) that I could hire elsewhere, I decided against it. Upgrade Club piqued my interest, but the only night I could have gone was Friday, which happened to be BDSM night – quite the opposite of my preferences.
I did visit Dedalos bar a couple of times since it was open 24 hours, but at all hours, it seemed to have the same crowd as any other bar. 
I stumbled upon a place called Cabines bar by chance; it was centrally located at one end of Paulista Avenue. This place was open from 2 pm to midnight, and a very friendly staff member advised me to come between 5 and 8 when it was busy with working people. 
to be continued...

i didnt go to Rio, i am glad i didnt, i dont think i can handled so, i alredy book my next trip and i include Rio and i will report
i think, dont making any assumptions, but i have similar taste as @tassojunior but i didnt see but two or less of pretty boys/masc boys most of them were A Brazilian "garoto" guy with tanned skin with a mix of ethnic backgrounds, What truly sets a Brazilian garoto guy apart is his friendly and outgoing nature. their warm smile and love for socializing.  
I felt for one that i called the mulato jake gyllenhaal, such a gorgeous face and even nicer demeanor 
cant wait for continuing discovering new places. 
 
Edit, my bad, i meant Tassojunior

Body positivity is something that I feel these places encourage. Sometimes, I'm self-conscious about my aging body, especially because I'm tall, so it stands out a lot. However, after a couple of visits to these bathouses where I walk around naked with a pride that Charles Atlas would envy, haha!           It's so refreshing to feel that, regardless of your appearance or age, you'll be treated well. I understand that you might attribute this to 'exchcange' but sometimes it's more than that, or at least for me

agree, Lagoa looked new, and i liked it a lot the suits with the bathroom. I walked every time, except on Saturday and Sunday that it was rainy. and that area close to Hermitage it was pretty nice and i was surprised in how close i was to a side of the Paulista Avenue. the one that has a mall with the Santander bank in the front.
have anyone stayed at the Transamerica Executive Paulista hotel? it looks really nice and is still within the proximity, besides i Uber everywhere, so i will choose this one over the  Hermitage
Also, Mon to Friday was a nice warm weather, but Friday night, Sat, and Sund got kind of chilly, and rainy

Yes. The area around Lagoa is quite nice and very gay. Like a lot gay couples holding hands. 
I was very aware of my surroundings, but the only place that looked more than shady was around Republic. It looked kind of sad, unkempt, and dirty, with all these homeless people around.
 
Unfortunately , I was told that  there are no more Hop-On Hop off  buses in SP. 
So, I used a taxi as my personal driver, and he took me to a lot of places, including the worst of them all: Estação da Luz, . The driver didn't want me to go there or get out of the car while there, but I insisted because all the sites for the Hop-On and Hop-Off buses indicated that the starting point was that location. Despite it being 10 am, he quickly drove me out of there.
 I am not planning on comeback to any of those places 

Most seem to object to the layout of Lagoa - it’s vertical, like a smaller version of Termas BCN.  However, Lagoa is fairly new (maybe 2 years old max) and it’s in a safe part of SP with very easy access to major hotels.  The number of working guys varies by time/date just like all the others. Lagoa does seem built more for business than compared to more socializing at 117 & Pointe
117 & Pointe are both old facilities, albeit traditional Brazilian saunas with garotos.  I’m not a fan of 117 just because I don’t like going to Gloria.  Pointe is really central in Copacabana with easy access, but the neighborhood can be dangerous day & night.
The saunas are more what you make of them vs what some expect to be served.  For me, it’s really more about safety and there is no question the area around Lagoa is far safer than Pointe & 117 in Rio. Not even close. 
As for the working guys - just go on a few different nights and you’ll see that it varies and can be unpredictable. All of them should have more than enough choices to make even the demanding client happy (except a few here). 

LOL. If I had never been to Rio, just because of your description, 202 would be my place. 

agree, Lagoa looked new, and i liked it a lot the suits with the bathroom. I walked every time, except on Saturday and Sunday that it was rainy. and that area close to Hermitage it was pretty nice and i was surprised in how close i was to a side of the Paulista Avenue. the one that has a mall with the Santander bank in the front.
have anyone stayed at the Transamerica Executive Paulista hotel? it looks really nice and is still within the proximity, besides i Uber everywhere, so i will choose this one over the  Hermitage
Also, Mon to Friday was a nice warm weather, but Friday night, Sat, and Sund got kind of chilly, and rainy

Body positivity is something that I feel these places encourage. Sometimes, I'm self-conscious about my aging body, especially because I'm tall, so it stands out a lot. However, after a couple of visits to these bathouses where I walk around naked with a pride that Charles Atlas would envy, haha!           It's so refreshing to feel that, regardless of your appearance or age, you'll be treated well. I understand that you might attribute this to 'exchcange' but sometimes it's more than that, or at least for me