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Leaving Barcelona.  Thermas was great a lot of fun. Paragonya, not so much 

Thanks @tassojunioryou always helpful and resourceful. 
I just left Paragonya, I will do a more in-depth report once I have been there twice. 
the changes are small but nice. Now behind the stairs that go downstairs  is the new area : dry / Turkish sauna; a steam room  and the shower, that now are downstairs , a nice jacuzzi too  besides that, upstairs is all the same can you please PM? 

8 minutes ago, tassojunior said:

it is still chillier in central Europe than here in DC.  The Scheuble is well-liked by all. The renovation was very stylish high-tech but kept the warmth of the 300-year old hotel. It's been run by the same family for 6 generations. And, of course, best thing, is it's almost adjacent to Paragonya with a gay bar between. My experience is Paragonya can be great sometimes and completely dead sometimes. Of course the crowd isn't as important as whether anyone really hot is there.

The most-popular Czech guys I know still haven't resumed traveling to Zurich even though they let the agent place their location in Zurich when they're home not working. It's a very long drive and gas is prohibitive now. And flying is also very expensive since Swiss has a monopoly now (pre-pandemic there was a Chinese airline that charged $50 PRG/ZHR on a wide-body). The cheapest coach seat now is about $250. And outcalls are just $150 so $500 RT is risky for them, even if they have a place to stay. Of course for many of us the solution is frequent flyer miles for ZHR/PRG. I know United intra-EU awards on Swiss are just 6.5K plus departure fee. Most other airlines have something similar, even if not non-stop. 

Every time I get a favorite "home" hotel in Prague they close it or take it out of my loyalty programs. First it was the Radisson Alcorn across from the world's top gay strip club. They closed the bar and Alcorn dropped out of Radisson. I then migrated to the Intercontinental up in an expensive part of Old Town. Then they closed it to rebuild it as a Fairmont. 

Hotels in Prague are exceptionally cheap for their quality. More than a few 5-star ones are $100. Old Town is a herd of tourists in narrow alleys like Venice. Wenceslaus Square  is just south of there in "New Town" and it's the main street of Prague and Muzeum is the central metro station. Remember, few of the guys are from Prague. Most live in what we'd call exurbs and some live 100 miles away. So an address can be difficult for them. But everyone knows Wenceslaus Square.  The Alcorn is an art deco gem and a very highly-rated one. It's lobby is fantastic and it has one of Prague's best restaurants. It has some penthouse suites with grand views of the castle and it's newish "mini-suites" on the first floor are one stunning modern one and one stunning traditional one. I like the traditional one with a white marble fireplace sitting area and a huge granite hot tub. But being no longer in a chain, I have no "ins" for free rooms or good rates or upgrades. The Alcorn varies greatly in price from day to day, often tripling but sometimes $100ish. But the 1st floor mini-suites are the bargain. 

My go-to hotel when the Alcorn or the IC were full or too high  has always been the Jalta. A half-block up from the Alcorn and right on the center of the Square. The first floor is mostly a very popular indoor/outdoor restaurant (free good breakfast!) and it was renovated a few years ago very well. It's a very historic hotel built after WW2. I always get room 801 which is a nice room with a balcony/patio over the Square that is 15'x15'. Many front rooms have regular balconies. They all look ut on the Square and the castle. The back rooms should be avoided. There's also a Marks and Spencer across the square with a nice cafe. And no escort can't find the Jalta. It's the epicenter of Prague. 

I don't think I'm alone in that for many years the routine was to let Marcel (Shane Hirsch in porn) come over a half-hour after arriving and schedule "Velvety" for later that evening or next day. And  amazingly that would repeat most days for a week with various newer or harder-to-get guys (like Masseur-Lewis) intermingled. I have my own close crowd of Bel Ami guys that often come to visit me in the US, but the Marcel/Velvety routine was the visit-Prague norm for many, many of us. But Prague is definitely an online  set appointments place. 

I'll ask some of my friends that are visiting me now if they know anyone who's in Zurich.

here's an article on the history of Czech escorts: 

Just a moment...

WWW.RESEARCHGATE.NET

 

Hi @tassojuniorthanks for the detailed report. 
Paragonya wasn’t as good as previous years or at least for me, I like masculine, pretty, and top 

but is hard to find that combination 

here in Paragonya is about the same they just open a back area with jacuzzi, a dry sauna, a steam sauna and a the whirlpool. It is raining outside so doesn’t make sense to go out. Also I have so many difficulties with my phone and internet, but that is a story for another time. 

In a rainy Zürich better to shelter at Paragonya. 

I just arri

On 3/19/2023 at 12:31 AM, tassojunior said:

Here are some more pics of Richard (AestheticXdeo) I took one day in my hotel as he was headed to Ostrava for a Czech bodybuilding championship the next day. That means he was really "shredded" instead of "bulked". Always get BBs when they're ripe and shredded, not bulked. Anyway he's always available in Prague and advertised on Hunqz. He's as nice as anyone can be. He does whatever someone wants for the full hour and never complains. While Filip is 6 ft, he's more 5ft 7 or 8. It is a coincidence they were Czech BB champions at the same time and did porn at the same time and entered escorting at the same time. Both are 25. 

 

 

Hi, @tassojunior I decided on Zurich, Prague needs more time to explore and find the right place. 

I still have one more week so I may decide if do a Prague or Vienna stop.  I think on the next trip I will go straight to one of those cities and keep it as the central location, instead of using BCN 

I booked Scheuble it is in a very good location. I haven't checked it out yet. At 12 I will go to Pargonya to have a relaxed day. 

there are a couple of boys in Prague that I would like to meet. but I am not decided yet if just go for a day meet them in my hotel. or if I fly one of them here. I am not too fond of the latter since if you have never met the guy is unpredictable the chemistry so I won't be offering it the trip

Any hotel recommendation to go to Prague for just a night? it is one boy that I always wanted to meet, we have been texting each other. to invite him to my hotel instead of looking around since I am not familiar with the city

btw, Barcelona and Zurich are still cold in the morning and only get warm in the afternoon 

Just now, azdr0710 said:

yeah, the usual NYC nude party is on the last Saturday of the month......Tim had to change it this month

Hi thanks. But I didn’t get a email this time. I am wondering why.  
 

2 minutes ago, Xavitv said:

It was yesterday 

oh 0.0 thanks, on Friday? Did Tim send an email? I didn't see it

it is a party this Sat?  i haven't received any email.

Those guys look amazing!  
I will decide Prague or Zurich once I am there.  Prague it looks too lively and crowded. Also,  I don’t know about finding a place to meet guys. While Paragonya is way easier 

will see. But those links come in handy. Hot guys

Can’t wait to be there. 

4 hours ago, CHIberia said:

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.

 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.

 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.

 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.

 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.

 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.

 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.

 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

Wow. . Thanks for the report.  It came in handy during my insomnia  😝

The staff was /is  A+  Like the Sri Lanka manager.  he was so attentive and accommodating . Can’t wait to go back, tempted to go there instead of Prague in my upcoming Barcelona trip. 

And upstairs 😍 the memories 🤪🤪🤪  I went crazy 😜 so I have the boys  lining up taking turns with me, as I mentioned in another thread , I was able to get  some extra cash from the bar staff, using my cc

15 minutes ago, tassojunior said:

Up and Down is open (Up is newer and closes at night when Down opens). I've had good luck at UP in the day time. Of all crazy things they have a youth hostel upstairs with it's entrance through the bar. A dozen young 20's hostel guys hanging out all day mixed with an assortment of escorts, gay bartenders and hirers. "Unique"  place. OTOH Down's name is appropriate not just because it's in the basement next door. A half dozen to a dozen clients in a dark place with one or two not appealing escorts. And one is always "Prague Hero"? from Romeo who's ad as "29" is off by a digit.......but it's not the "9". Sometimes he puts on a nude free show on stage. In the dark from 25 feet he's attractive body-wise.  That's it unless some hard-up guy hears of the place and wanders in. The bartenders are famously very nice looking and friendly though. 

The new lapdance bar Melody is now X Club but the dancers are a long way from prime meat. There are a couple small locals basement gay bars around New Town South (around X Club) that have some trade but I've never been in them, just walked by. You'll do much better online, Hunqz, Romeo, Grindr etc. Actually you'll probably do better standing on any random street corner saying "hello". 

The hustlers in Vienna hang out in Stadpark in the center. I stay in the InterContinental on Stadpark. The lobby is like the social center of Vienna. There's a hustler bar that opens and closes often. It's in a new location now reopened and renamed Alt Lampe. 

Thanks. I am leaving nyc this 28. So I will report back. A youth hostel conectes to a gay bar ? Sounds nice. Up&Down site looks good so I’ll be there for sure  Mid April 

Not much of  a fan of online sites  a hit or miss. A lot of Flaky providers that never respond or are between clients.
 Hunqz was a surprisingly good, Ive met some hot boys there, some others let me waiting but thanks to hunqz I met my favorite guy of my last trip, a stunning  blond Venezuelan boy, that wore me out  

I  definitely prefer to go to a place/bar where I can see the guys, hang out with them and then take one to my place     

I will do the stand waving 👋 “ hi”

@tassojunior going back to the topic.  is UP&DOWN Bar&Club open? i mean. i was looking and the only one that came up was up and down with a lot of bad reviews, BUT that has never stopped me

Do you know any other bar with boys in Prague/Vienna, 

Also, a bar that used to be called Pinocchio, now has a different  name: Temple, and one called Escape

10 minutes ago, tassojunior said:

Back Page, Rent Boy. Several of them still in prison. If SESTA's ever enforced many will go bye-bye.

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RentBoy has offices in USA that was the reason. go figure why they have offices here in America instead or a more escorting friendly location

BacPage, I don't know, maybe, as it was CL in SF

1 hour ago, tassojunior said:

Quebec City is friendlier and the boys at the lap dance bar get very very friendly. 

Oh, thanks, it is always something new to know. Canada what a great and friendly country Lol 

I just googled the stripper bars in Quebec city I will have a nice Summertime 

38 minutes ago, tassojunior said:

Quebec City is friendlier and the boys at the lap dance bar get very very friendly. 

1 minute ago, SirBillybob said:

The current Spanish government majority is planning, as per the abolitionist model, to make amendments to the criminal code to clamp down on prostitution. What impact, if passed, this will have on MSM commercial sex trade is unclear. I am not familiar with the judicial structure and what stage this proposal is at, voting, etc.

Perhaps Thermas in Barcelona would likely simply need to refrain from making direct references to its playbook setup. For-profit Escort ad sites centralized in Spain could be affected. The abolitionist approach and criminalization in USA and Canada seemed to lead to some adjustments but didn’t shut down trade. 

I did read about it. but is unclear. Because of this, I have two trips planned to BCN, one in two weeks - flight and hotel set up.  and one on my birthday in mid-November, so I'm getting the contact info from my faves. Ultimately, even if there are a bunch of guys you find a couple who are compatible with you and treat you nicely.   I even fell in love with one- as much love you can fall with a temp provider 😕 so I am meeting him.  we WhatsApp a lot. i just need to remember to buy a prepaid sim, last time was a nightmare with my us provider

1 minute ago, tassojunior said:

That's David Chiacek. Very gay  model but too many muscles for fashion. A friend works out at the same gym in Prague and says he has a rough red pimple back he's very defensive about always proclaiming he does not do steroids. Here's Davee's IG if you want to follow or communicate: https://www.instagram.com/davee_cz/

 

 

Thanks for the link.

I think we exchanged posts when I was in Bcn and debating btwn Zurich and Vienna, but it was too cold for Vienna. And i visited Zurich before. But this hobby is kind of new to me, so I didn't know about Paragonya back then.

What a masterpiece of a guy

I like to have the IG of all the boys that i "became" friends with during my trips.  Of all my fave from Montreal, there were two that open an IG acct, like Zach the 5'6 blond from Campus, and Tommy my Ryan Gosling look-alike, also from Campus.

I have a sweet tale about Tommy: in 2017, while he was performing at Stock Bar, he was my first-ever stripper dance or private. We had so much fun, but it was my first so I didn't know how much I would love those friendships at the time. Then I met Tommy again on campus in 2019 and looking at his Instagram, he posted an old picture of himself at Stock Bar with the caption "me at 18 at Stock Bar" so we talked about it- I usually take him out to eat- so I asked him about that Stock Bar and it happens to be at the same time we met O.O it was our first time for both of us. Tommy is one of the many nice guys on Campus. 

Montreal has the sweetest nicest guys ever. I post a lot about Montreal on this site but is because I was used to the coldness and sometimes rudeness of NYC  My last RM in NYC was such a scammer who took my money and he treated me so badly...

1 hour ago, José Soplanucas said:

The two sites are not related.

However, their histories are not parallel. The older members can bring more knowledge about this.

I found out about GG a couple of months ago, while CoN has been a (somehow quiet) member for a couple of o years. 

19 minutes ago, Tarte Gogo said:

If you hunt in the US, you will find a lot more info about guys here on CoM.

If you are hunting in South East Asia or Brazil, you will hardly find anything new posted here, but tons over there on gayguides.

thanks, i will check it out, but i find CoM good also for Europe.  Also, i couldn't find the turn on the dark-mode settings in GGuides. I am a dark-mode junkie

37 minutes ago, tassojunior said:

especially on weekends I found Thermas in BCN busy by noon. But during the week it is after-work hours starting at 4. we have to remember in EU these are saunas, not bars. one traditionally goes to a sauna after work until 9pm closing time.  Guys go to Zurich to make money in high-turnovers, not high prices. Outcalls are 150 and in sauna is 100. Beware Paragonya can be almost empty many times. Ask the clerk if it's worth paying the 35 for admission and he'll usually be honest if it's not good and even let you look. There are a couple gay bars next door. 

What would you say it will be a good starting point if going to Vienna? That is place I have little information. What neighborhood do you recommend to look for a hotel. Like in Zurich’s Old Town was so easy,  close to the central station and the sauna and those little stores + one of the easiest Airport -center of the city commute. 
I am going to bcn in April so I will check after hours Thermas. 

On 1/31/2023 at 6:25 PM, RadioRob said:

GuyGuides.com looks to be a capacity/load issue where they're working to optimize the resources being used or upgrading to try and add resources.  (Their last problem awhile back was related their their SSL certificate expiring.)

I was able to eventually load the site, but it's certainly not up to full snuff yet.  

Are both sites related? Like a brother or something? I discovered gayguides  last October, but I wish they were connected so I don't have to choose what to post in each, or if repeat, copy, and paste,  what i posted here. For that reason I've never posted there since I'm pretty happy with here, CoM.  actually, i enjoy this site a lot

On 3/9/2023 at 9:37 PM, tassojunior said:

a substantial number of 18 year olds in Czech do porn. It's the world's porn capital and a big employer there.  They teach it's safety as a vocation in some schools. Being an international porn star is just another just-ok paying job. and even the guys who now have families with children are glad for the extra cash. But many live down in Monrova closer to Vienna or Ostrava, nearer to Krakow. Maybe half are around Prague. A very few make a huge amount of money but it's from traveling the circuit and having many $150 dates a day, not from "whales". They usually don't work much at home and in Prague they usually charge $200. Many of the top famous guys (Bel Ami) are passing 30 now and that's well over the hill in Europe. There are few young guys coming into the porn scene although the better online guys are glad for extra work. Here's one of the now-fewer young Czech guys. 6'4" bodybuilder "Mikk Arden" who did chat for Bel Ami when he turned 18.(he's 19 now)  Bragging about how good a bottom he's learned to be but how much shaved ass crack hurts. Really sweet (but really big) guy. (outside Ostrava).

https://gay0day.com/videos/112212/flirt4free-mikk-arden-hot-model-has-chiseled-body-and-giant-pecker/

And just-turned 19 on Feb 14 "Bruce Harrelson" of Bel Ami chat who did 15 porns under 10 names between 18 and 19. (outside Prague).

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and there's just-turned 24 model David Chiacek who is proudly gay and willing: (Prague)

Who is that blonde in b&w pick? I will take a plane just to meet him. Is buil as my wet dream  

9 hours ago, tassojunior said:

Vienna also on my list. But I go to Prague once or twice a year. 

 

I canceled a Puerto Vallarta trip  

The more I saw about PV the more I knew wasn’t for me. Too crowded. 
 

so it is a lot of fun coming our way. The reopening of Paragonya. I was there in  November and it was a dream. And the staff was so welcoming.  
the manager let  me use my CC in his bar to get more cash  o.o. And the boys were amazing all types, for all tastes. 
I am sucker for pretty but masculine boys, Bel Ami meets old Sean Cody.  
 

Then Campus is promising a Daddy’s Corner with an all male  crow and dancers in a more private setting. I am ready to go the opening night, but is no news when that would be.  I am assuming in the Summer, can’t wait. 
 

About Paragonya, I was really surprised in how low key but sexy is that place. 
Do you guys know that the toilets at Paragonya have a bidet!!! 😳😳😳 and the seat is a self cleaning one! 
I am still in contact with a Bulgarian boy I met there and this BEAUTIFUL Swiss/Brazilian guy. He looks more Swiss but he is equipped and handled me as Brazilian 🤓 

I adventured to a porn movie theater. There was one guy hustling, but it was already too late, Swiss style 10 pm, so it was closing time. 

it was my first time in Zurich, the week before I was in BCN. Both Thermas ( 4 to 7 Pm) and Paragonya ( no on to 4 pm) are better daytime.  

wow, so my type

amazing, I have Vienna on my bucket list, Maybe a Zurich Viena convo to visit the renovated Paragonya 

Reading all this reviews and with this unstable NYC weather. I will give a try to PV, for my first time.
I have few days to stay there, so I will go straight to the point. Love places, like Mtl ,were you can see the guys/dancers to have dance then a nice private. 
for what I read, it looks like club 69 is my type of place… I am sucker, no pun, for jock type but pretty boys latin or European. 
Is the romantic zone the area to stay?

I may do beach but mostly I will do boys 😜😝😜😝

any tip will be appreciated, I will report, as always. 
Thanks @Minneapolis for the detailed report. 
I may take a plane in the upcoming weekends.