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Not knowing where everything will stand once the dust settles and SESTA/FOSTA becomes law, I was interested in people sharing their stories of what they did before the internet? Who knows....someday (maybe soon) there might not be Masseurfinder, Rentmasseur, Daddy's reviews/forums, etc. So I was curious, what did you do before the internet to connect to get an erotic massage? Your experiences and suggestions of where to look without the internet will come in handy for all of us if things actually do go dark. Where did you find your erotic masseurs before the internet?

We were creative!

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My late father taught us that tipping is reserved for those who have gone above and beyond the rendered service, so definitely leave a tip. He knew because he would shine shoes occasionally and would do a superb job. [i know because he would shine our shoes making them sparkle and gleam plus protect the leather.] I tip but at times dislike having to or expecting to do so when the service is poor.

 

Just yesterday, 3.29.18, it happened: I went to one of my favorite small cafes to which I have been going since its inception and ordered a late lunch. I precisely and clearly told the wait person what I desired. I waited longer than I'd anticipated, and the cafe was NOT crowded. When another person delivered my plate-- it had fries instead of the broccoli and a white bun instead of wheat. When I caught the attention of my wait person's working associate-- I had the plate returned. Within a reasonable time, my order was made correctly. Upon paying my bill-- I really, really, really hesitated to give a tip, for the initial service did not warrant this!

 

I abhor the mental psyche of the American (US) in terms of tipping. The mantra seems to be that it's an obligation regardless of the service given. With that-- if the service is what I've thought deserving of additional money-- I tip; if it is not, I really try hard to refrain from tipping, and if it's "Take Out"-- I try to avoid leaving a tip that's on the counter.

Indeed, now that tipping is "expected" it does feel like it has lost its ability to encourage/reward good service...

If so, I think you're supposed to dye the bills and hide them somewhere.

 

Kevin Slater

It's been discussed that is customary to tip more on Thanksgiving and Christmas... what about Easter Sunday?

Your question makes me feel cheap and hollow inside....

I guess this goes without saying, but for me it's especially true. I'd like a sensual experience with a guy to whom cleanliness and staying STD-free and safe is a definite priority. So I don't have to worry, and can have a nice time. Any guys come to mind? Please send info.

Generally, you will find "Daddy's boys" to be helpful, but you will have to give them more to work with... Are you looking for a top/bottom/verse? Age range, incall, outcall etc? You mention staying STD-free; are you looking for a provider that is on PrEP? Does discreet mean no piercings/tattoos?

No guts, no glory

He is young. Instead of being too critical, perhaps we should encourage and support a little more. Keep in mind, we were shaped by the Stonewall riots and the AIDS epidemic. These younglings have yet to find their voice and strength. Until they do, it is up to us to have their backs... My $0.02

Hello my adorable men-geishas!

 

After the initial panic storm unleashed by SESTA/FOSTA, I am feeling more and more confident it is just a lot of noise about an unenforceable regulation.

 

Not only that, but I am also starting to feel a little tiny bit pinch of hopeful. In an environment where shamelessly abusive values and behaviors are finally motivating and feeding a grass root movement of Empathetic America, I hope this misguided move by Prudish USA will unite and feed whatever activism exist in our subculture.

 

I would like to join.

 

What advocacy groups would you recommend me to join and why?

 

Thank you all.

 

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I do hope you are right! I am curious about advocacy groups as well...

Thanks for posting the link. Xoxo

He is a hottie!

Discussed here, perhaps it will help: https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/onanyc-anyone-know.113989/#post-1367383

I usually send a text a half hour before I head over. Also ask in that same text that the service provider let me know if he is running late. I don't usually call, texting works for me. If it is an appointment arranged a few days before, I will usually text earlier in the day, say around 11am to check in as well.

Same experience as EVdude. Set up massage with Daniel in NYC. When I got there, it was a different European guy (claimed he was from Denmark). He was nice, handsome and had a good body so I went ahead with it. Surprisingly, the massage was decent and he did it nude, but there was a major upsell at the end for more interaction, which I didn’t pursue. There are so many good choices in NYC, why waste time, effort and money when it appears to be somewhat of a crap shoot that you will get the guy you think you are hiring.

Same here, set up an appointment with Daniel and this is the guy that showed up: Sasha

Was it the same guy for you? Major upsell as you indicated...

Bump - currently in NYC. Anyone meet him yet?

Does anybody have experience with this guy: https://rent.men/EuropeanDream

Looks like he travels quite a bit. Would appreciate your thoughts if you've had the pleasure of meeting him. Will be in Miami later this week and he caught my eye.

Previously discussed here but talked about massage, not boyfriend experience: https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/europeandream-in-nyc.129705/

Thanks!

Interesting to hear. What is MMX?

Discussed elsewhere on the forum - here is the link to the group's website: https://www.mmxnyc.com/

I'd be willing to bet good money that I saw him at MMX in NYC the other day. Pics are definitely out of date, but he is still a good looking dude.

How 'bout this one

 

Brilliant! lol

This was on TV the other day: Squat Magic - so weird. Do better, I dare you!

It happens...unless the departure was handled with grace and style, it is never really the same again, IMO

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Isn't that old age, over-the-hill for gays?

Hold your tongue! "Age Discrimination. Age discrimination involves treating an applicant or employee less favorably because of his or her age. The Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) forbids age discriminationagainst people who are age 40 or older."

I recall a discussion here about a Ryan that was a CMT. Profiles have expired so not sure it is the same individual.... https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/411-on-ryan-cmt.117649/

Sorry, can't be of more help.

You may have more luck in the Spa section of the forum. That is where most of the massage enthusiasts hang out... I searched for "spanishmuscle" and found a discussion here: https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/la-guys.132838/#post-1447452

I would go with option 1. I am shocked that you suggest any of us would propose a threesome...

Has anyone made plans in advance with an escort, and suddenly found them unresponsive as you got closer to the date?

 

I set plans with an escort a few weeks ago to meet him for an hour, and I'm traveling to his city to meet him. (Visiting a friend while I'm there, so it's not the sole reason for the trip)

 

He was very responsive and polite when we set things up, and I was very excited about meeting him.

 

I sent him a message by e-mail on Saturday, but haven't gotten a response. His ad on RM has since expired, so I sent him a text last night (Tues), and no response as of Wed at 4 pm. I'm really bummed as he looks like a really great guy, and was looking forward to spending time with him.

 

I'd totally be understanding if something came up, or he got an overnight or longer request from someone else. I'd be willing to schedule around it, or pick another weekend to travel. Also, it is not lost on me that life happens and sudden emergencies and engagements pop up that you can't get out of.

 

There are other escorts in the city that I can schedule with, but I'd hate to make plans and then cancel if the original guy gets back to me. I try to value an escort's time as much as I would want my own time valued. However, I've already booked the flight, and I now can't re-schedule to another weekend.

 

Should I give up on this guy or hold out a little longer?

It really depends on the circumstances. I am a firm believer in Murphy. Stuff happens. So I try to be reasonable, will reach out a time or two if no response, especially if it is somebody I would consider a regular. If it is a first time meet, then I will assume the individual is a flake (no matter how much I looked forward to meeting), thank my lucky stars for figuring it out sooner, rather than later, and move on. In the circumstances you outlined, I assume it is a first time meet, so I would declare it a loss and move on. Find somebody else. I try to be respectful of other people's time - and expect the same in return. Don't let it ruin your trip! Post script - please consider submitting a review, you may save a forum member some drama!

Link didn't work for me, but I get the gist. If you're going to be sent off to camp, you may as well find something useful to do!!!

Oh dear lord, it's official: I have a DAD bod!

What happens during a massage? The session usually starts with a massage. Can be a light rub down or a more intensive massage, depending on the skills of the masseur. Also a good time to get to know the masseur a little if it is the first time. The session usually starts with you on your stomach and the masseur working on the back of the body, neck to feet. Then later, you will be asked to turn around and then the masseur will work on the front.

Is the massage followed by JO? It depends on the type of massage. If you ask for an erotic massage, in my view I expect to be happy in the end, so at least a release by hand. I would also expect that mutual touching would be okay. Sometimes there can be more, but really, if I want more, I hire an escort and not a masseur. Sensual massage can mean anything, so this is a case where you may want to specify your expectations (mutual touch, happy ending etc). Therapeutic massage I don't expect anything more than a massage (and a good one at that) from a licensed masseur.

Is it massage followed by full-on sex? In my experience, no. I am sure that it happens from time to time, but has never happened to me (perhaps I am doing it wrong!) and it is not my expectation.

How is booking with a masseur different than booking with an escort? When you hire as a masseur, you should expect less than you would from a full service escort. As an example, when I arrange time with an escort, I usually specify my preferences (top, kissing etc). With a masseur I do not - don't expect it to go that far.

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