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Nope. I can only see your reply without the quote.

????? Edit: Oh I guess you are replying to someone I blocked months and months ago and I can’t see their contributions? Well I am glad to see they haven’t changed and still reply even though they must know that I can’t see their posts

I am fully reconciled with Grinder today! I’ll let you guess why. That ATM emoji works.

You don’t. It is not allowed. You have to go to another site. One of them is called www.daddyreviews.com and has a whole set of procedures to avoid issues typically associated with reviews.

I don’t care about proving it in court any more. Haven’t you read this thread? Whatever we all say or whatever paper evidence we bring seems irrelevant, jurors can just claim to read our minds and say our intent was prostitution and lock us up, so why fucking bother?

I am reading some profiles and a few people are openly saying “I use block if I decide you are not for me, it frees up screen space on my Grindr app for other people, don’t be offended”. So I think quite a few frequent users have simply taken the habit of blocking anyone they are not going to go for, simply to make room for other people, which they would orherwise never see all the way at the bottom of the list. Especially in Manhattan, where the number of people is incredibly large. That might just be it.

Fair enough, see my comments above, then, where I claim shame saved some lives, but I acknowledge that maybe death by HIV was preferable to being manipulated.

Can I do another massive shout out for Victor , who was perfect today, and sorted me out in just exactly the right way, just when I needed it. Thank you @VictorPowers , you are a doll.

Sorry are you saying that shame does NOT change people’s behaviour?

People don’t seem to be like that abroad, in Brasil or in the Philippines, they contact me through grindr only if they are actually interested. And if it turns out they are not, they say so politely. I haven’t been blocked before, or at least, not that I have noticed. Maybe they are more desperate for money, that is the difference.

Is it ok if I am an asshole to them, waste their time, and do it to them, then? You guys seem jaded, so you can’t complain if I do it right?

I agree, I often works like this, afterwards, if they have nothing else to do. But it looks like the OP wanted to spend time to know them before the act.

Why bother talking to me in the first place? My stats are very clear. They started the convo, it is not as if I ever pester anyone, I am just answering their questions. Jeez.

Hmm, could be but seems unlikely that they all 3 would block rather than just stop answering.

But why does the chat history disappear? Does that happen when they block you?

I am new to Grindr, only used it abroad and in other languages, and briefly. Maybe you guys can enlighten me about what happens in English or when you are physically located in the US. 3 times in 2 days, a conversation with a guy disappeared completely from my list of conversations. We were getting along fine, so I am assuming that it is not because the guys on the other side blocked me. On the first one, I didn’t mention any “money” but it is possible the other guy did. He certainly had mentioned my “atm” emoji. The thread simply disappeared. No trace of it. On the second instance, with a different guy, I wrote the following sentence “if you don’t have a place I will get us a day hotel and don’t worry I’ll pay for it. “ immediately the convo thread disappeared. On the third guy he wrote “sugar daddy?” and I replied “I can be for a really cute guy, please send face pics” then we talked about where and when for a couple of sentences and the thread disappeared. It is possible, but I’ll never know, that the other guy wrote something about the amount he expected. I don’t even know how to contact these guys again, I don’t have a handle or anything. So question 1: are you guys aware of an auto-convo-delete system in grinder if there is suspicion? Semi-automated? Based on the words “pay” or “money” or “how much”? Question 2: does that also blocks 2 people from finding each other? Question 3 if 2 is ‘no’: how do I find a guy on grindr that I talked to before, but I don’t have his handle because the convo doesn’t appear anywhere. Thanks!

No that is not unusual to want to talk, but that is “on the clock”, by default.

Hey Gman, i am not sure if your area has decently priced hotels, but if you both can’t host, and are into each other, wouldn’t you pay for a room in a cheap hotel? I mean a hotel room is way cheaper than an escort, I definetly would pay it, for what looks like a really good fuck.

We also have colored text. (Here I assume no users are reading on a monochrome screen :-))

Yes verbal contracts exists. And they don’t include everyone’s name. Every time you buy a coffee at Starbucks you enter a sales contract of goods (coffee) and services (making it right for you). These rarely get disputed in court, because they are not important enough, but when they are disputed, they are still enforceable. It is not what lawyers recommend though, for obvious reasons. See here: https://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/business-contracts-forms/what-contracts-are-required-to-be-in-writing.html

Wow, the all caps was intense, I felt I was being shouted at the whole time. So in short the jury is allowed to claim that they read my mind. @quoththeraven is right the only solution is to resolve the underlying issue. Decriminalise or legalise or both, or move to a better country.

It is up to the client. And if it not written down, just a verbal agreement, you don’t have to give any more info than you do now.

He is with me, much more natural and less stiff than all the other ones. He can react like a real guy to almost anything. That does make him more likeable.

But you said harry was second tier, now he is tier 6? We need some consistency around here.

Ok, so let's dissect this because it is seriously bugging me: Realistic scenario: I am a hot young 25 yo guy who loves to have sex with older men and then talk about it. I live in the US. I have sex with literally thousands of older men in many years. Statement 1: Having sex with many, many older men is not illegal, as long as I am 18 and regardless of their age. Statement 2: I am protected by the first amendment to talk about each encounter as long as I don't lie. The number of "outings" I am allowed to make is not restricted by law. Statement 3: Each of these men is legally allowed to buy my silence individually, if and only if they want to. No extortion, they don't have to buy my silence. But if they don't buy my silence, I am allowed to speak to anyone who will listen about it. Are any of the statements here above wrong? Now, please assume we are dealing with a rational and logical, highly competent judge that just tries to apply the law to the facts brought to him by the police. All the police brings is that A) I had sex many, many times, and each time I received some money. B) All my clients (who are rational beings and not stupid) explain that they paid me to keep quiet, not to have sex. The prosecutor is accusing me of both extortion and prostitution, in case one fails, then he hope to get me for the other one. Our lawyers are competent and do not screw this up. Question 1: What if it is not the older guy that brings up the "buying my silence" part, but it was me instead, after the sex. Is that extortion in any/all US jurisdictions? Question 2: What if I bring up the hush agreement before the sex? Does that change anything? I feel it shouldn't, because bringing it up afterwards is more dishonest than bringing it up beforehand. Beforehand means at least the older guy can back out. Question 3: Does writing the hush agreement down changes anything for our rational and logical judge? Question 4: Would a rational and logical judge accept the claim from the prosecutor that all these people were "thinking" of doing prostitution, even though we all claim the opposite, we verbally agreed on the payment for the hush agreement only, and there was no witness to prove that we said anything of the contrary? Basically, what is the criteria in criminal court for knowing what someone was thinking when there are 2 possibilities? Do the police need to provide material evidence, or it is ok for the judge to claim to be a mind reader? I am not from the US, and I don't claim to know the law, but I do claim to be able to reason.