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I see him coming to town. Any info. https://rent.men/BottomBull

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My experience and time with him was very personable and fun

If not, I'm looking for a good recommendation... Want a decent massage, someone who kisses fairly well, doesn't smoke, no PnP, wouldn't mind flipping (vers), and can hold a decent conversation. Thoughts in the South Florida area?

Thank you. From my perspective, this is so true. To make a relationship work, both people have to be open and honest with themselves and each other. There needs to be good communication. In the rented relationship, both people become aware of the expectations, and the fear of rejection is limited by the cash. Knowing that, clients are willing to open up more to their inner needs/feelings and a receptive escort can make the choice to share or not. The structure of the 'date' is about discovery of the client, and satisfying their needs. If they are open, and you are satisfying their needs, over time, it becomes reciprocal. In the app world, it is very easy to be rejected and the structure of the 'date' is selfish. Each person want to be the one satisfied. There is no need to open up and be vulnerable. You have no reason to work on communication or learn more about the other person. So, it is more difficult. Just my tuppence.

Any info? https://rentmen.eu/BRYANVERS

Anyone have escort experience with him? I'm considering.

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https://rentmen.eu/Ash_avital/ Any first hand knowledge?

I'd recommend getting to him.

I think it is just the way the whole question is worded that makes me wonder. Asking someone for a meet and greet for a short, or one time, encounter, is rude. Versus, asking someone for a meet and greet before an extended companionship (weekend, travel, etc.) that we've already started working out the details, doesn't seem totally out of line. Asking someone for a meet and greet at a coffee shop at the escort's convenience because they are in the same area of town and we're already set up for an encounter later, not a big issue to me. Versus asking someone for a meet and greet at my convenience regardless of their schedule or before vetting, that's being a serious inconsiderate SOB. In all cases, the escort is free to decline and the drinks/food is my dime. For example, going on a week long cruise with someone new, already worked out the scheduling and some of the details, as well as when they're on the clock or off the clock, etc... and I ask, do you have time to grab a quick coffee this week, and we can firm up on some details... That doesn't seem totally out of line, or something that need a time card punched on. Just my tuppence.

If you want a great one... A woman without her man is nothing. A woman, without her, man is nothing.

Hmmm..... Even if everything Leo said was true (and I'm not saying I believe it), all his response says to me is that he is unable to perform and lack the skills to make the client feel special or create that intimate moment for the client. I feel bad for escorts who have to deal with smell, taste, looks, physical deformities, emotional baggage, etc... of their clients. BUT, that is part of the job. When you work directly with people, you deal with their issues. If you get paid to do it, then you do it with utter charm and dignity. That's the sign of a professional. A good professional would have been able to perform his best and not make the client aware of the issue. An intimate professional might have figured a way to improve the situation without embarrassment. "Hey, Mr. Client, how about a shower first, you can join me, and..."

I can't speak for the specifics, but in many states, LMT's are not permitted to touch the glutes directly, and are limited on massaging through draping. One of the reasons I prefer going through an escort or masseurfinder type of site, is that I'm sure that won't be a problem. Almost all masseurs will massage the TFL and the hamstrings. The potential problem comes as you approach the origin/insertion point for the hamstrings and the glutes. If you aren't sure someone is okay with it, then it may be avoided. Especially with less experienced therapists.

Without another topic, talking about the things you know about each other are very natural. Asking an escort why he chose his profession is no different than asking a teacher, barber, or accountant why they chose their profession. It is a normal icebreaker, since the client knows the escort's profession. The phrasing you use can be taken as an insult, but I'm not sure that the question is really rude. You can ask a lawyer "why a lawyer? I mean you have such potential in business." Or, you can ask them, "why a lawyer? how did you choose that as a career?" The first implies a negative impression of a lawyer, the second is about curiosity and conversation.

From another perspective... If you are asking for a therapeutic massage, you want to feel comfortable with the services you are receiving. If you go to the local spa, you don't always know if you'll get a male or female available. You know, when you hire the therapist directly. Also, you don't know if they are comfortable with your cock and balls or afraid that you'll file an inappropriate sexual conduct complaint. They may spend a great deal of effort to make sure your privates are covered. That draping, while quite efficient, can take 5-10% of time you'd prefer they were working on the massage. Since you are probably not concerned about modesty, and may not be opposed to having them handle your cock, using "those sites" (as you call it), allow both you and them to focus on the massage. If someone is advertising, then you can feel comfortable the focus is not on your modesty.

@youngboldone I am not vilifying you. CDC site has been put up before and the topic has been well discussed. https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep.html https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prevention.html Here are additional sites: https://www.poz.com/article/condom-PrEP-efficacy-26766-8889 https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/hiv-prevention/using-hiv-medication-to-reduce-risk/pre-exposure-prophylaxis https://aidsinfo.nih.gov/understanding-hiv-aids/fact-sheets/20/48/the-basics-of-hiv-prevention http://www.catie.ca/en/fact-sheets/prevention/condoms https://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/3100.aspx?CategoryID=118 http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/condoms/en/ http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp068111#t=article https://www.aidschicago.org/resources/legacy/condoms/ltoyw_fact.pdf http://www.unaids.org/en/resources/presscentre/featurestories/2015/july/20150702_condoms_prevention Within each are reference material down to the studies and published works that support each of the articles.

I respect your opinion, but respectfully disagree. In this case, I am saddened. The OP isn't just "worrying". The chances of getting hit by a vehicle while walking on the sidewalk are pretty slim, as well. But, choosing not to go to a particular movie theatre when you really want to see the movie because you distrust that you won't get hit by a vehicle while walking on the sidewalk is more than simple 'worry'. And, the stigmatism he puts on people based on their HIV status is unfair. Sorry.

Two things: 1) Put a condom in your wallet and leave it there for those moments when things "occur" with spontaneity. You'll never again have to say, we can't have sex because we don't have a condom. Most men that I know, have one with them permanently in their wallet. 2) You really need to understand that people with HIV are people. Real human beings. Sexy as fuck, annoying as hell, exciting, boring, but real and full of all of the same emotions as you. Maybe then, HIV won't be as terrifying, and, you can stop looking at someone and seeing the virus. PrEP is a good thing and has its purposes. You and I have messaged back and forth and we've talked a lot about it, but the fear is something you should figure out how to get passed. This is very unfair to him and to yourself. You have the knowledge and facts, from the CDC, from people with firsthand experience, etc... and still choose not to trust. That is very sad.

@youngboldone I'm not sure if I fall on the 'client' or 'provider' side on this one. There were a lot of different expectations missed in your interaction, so far. It sounds like you expect a potential hire to treat you with a high level of customer service and to win the sale. I can respect that. From your perspective... you are a potential customer trying to close the deal. It sounds like he expects his potential clients to be more direct and get to the point. He wants to move you from a 'lead', to a 'potential customer', and then a 'paying client'. From his perspective... you are a lead who is using his valuable time. Now, somewhere along the route, you started taking offense and he's gotten defensive and started explaining/excusing his behavior. I'm not sure you're going to be able to push through that. You may, but it is going to have to come from you, not him. The minute one side or the other starts making excuses, the deal is in jeopardy. Even though you might have been very happy with his services, and he may have been an excellent service provider, you guys aren't communicating your expectations. In the future, I'd suggest firming up an appointment time and a general type of encounter (massage, BFE, date, fetish, etc...). Once you have a date/time, you can he can discuss the finer details and any deal breakers. If anything comes up during those discussing or he stops communicating, cancel the appointment.

Yeah, the days of thinking about that are gone, IMHO. I just watched a guy get escorted off the plane at destination because someone accused of masturbating under his blanket. No one saw his cock, no one knows for sure if he was playing with himself, and no one nearby was a minor, but the police met him upon arrival. If that's for mere masturbation, trying to fuck around... not happening.

Here's the thing, from my perspective. If you want to try again, and it sounds like you do, then you have to ask for some consideration for the unsatisfactory service from the second encounter. If you don't ask, you will not be able to shrug it off and have a good time in the future with him. He may say yes or he may say no. That's his choice. His choice will lead you to your decision. As for your tip on the second occasion, I gather that tip was about you, and not about him. You may have sent a confused message and that confused message is coming back to you now. Time to correct it. Since he reached out to you, I'd suggest responding with a comment that says something like... "I appreciate the offer. I am a little hesitant because last time I felt we didn't connect and the session ended on a down note. I'd be open to considering another chance... make me an offer I can't refuse. *wink*" That leaves it all in his court.

My assumption was less that "they would be posting them anyway", and more about the type of content being published. I don't think of homemade video content with the same type of quality. I get easily distracted by production and editing issues such as camera shaking, angles, background sounds, lighting problems, shadowing... So, I've never been a big fan of that type of video content. I wasn't thinking about those who were supplementing and using pay-per. I can understand liking the move to a subscription based model. I guess I expected that type of scene by scene work to be channeled into existing distribution networks. Now that I re-think it, there is a value there to be had. Not for me, but still... Thanks for the insight!

I understand the mechanics of how a website works. I was referring to the fact that they add nothing to the content or user experience. To them it would make no difference if the content were someone fishing or some of the most attractive eye candy sending me personally directed vids. Not to be rude, but that view starts with the presumption that each escort/celebrity has sufficient drive and creative skills to maintain their content. And from there, OnlyFans acts like a place to host the content collecting fees. From my perspective, a don't where the difference between that and any other social media platform, except that it costs additional money for each person you wish to be a fan. And that's what I mean by they add nothing for that content... Where is the value add to the customer/subscriber that warrants OnlyFans over any other service?