CBA

I usually hire traveling masseurs... but from the ones advertising in MF as of today, I can say a few things based on my experience only...
 
https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/ariodante83.shtml Super nice guy, sensual, erotic massage. Not trained, more like a soft sensual touch. Don't hire him is a good massage is your priority.
 
https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/renuguy33.shtml Nice ass, cool guy. Massage OK. Mutual touched and HE... I liked his ass a lot,, haha.
 
https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/flawlessform.shtml BEST massage... a little on the pricey side... might get sensual, might not. YMMV... so only go with him if you want a great massage from a super handsome guy, but do not expect more than that.
 
https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/tattooasian2.shtml - Ugh! I wouldn't repeat.
 
https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/nateshands.shtml - Good massage, sensual. I think from this list, he could be the balance between a good massage and good sensuality and play.

I make recommendations ALL THE TIME. You need to check in more often !

Wow, that's a lot of words. I read about two sentences, then gave up.

I did see him. His body is very ... yummy. Tall, hairy, athletic, and just sexy as hell. I think most of his face pics are a couple years old and he looks quite different in all of them, but the picture he posted in June (fitted black polo shirt).. THAT'S exactly what he looked like.
 
I can't really say much about the experience itself. I was very anxious and awkward, as usual, and it made the session a bit rushed. But I would hire him again, for sure.

I think you are generalizing a bit here but you do have some valid points. I think it is also important to note where the SB is located. Living on a ranch in the southwest I find that a lot of young men use it to find a local "daddy" because there is nothing available on the other online or app sites. SA mostly has decent Sugar Daddies. I think the big cities are a far different case. Everything online takes weeding out the bad boys...dating sites, escort sites, massage sites, sex apps......it takes time and some experience. Sometimes it is worth it. I do miss the days where you could only meet guys at a gay bar or event.

I was in LA yesterday. Chad was available so I took the opportunity to do some research on the Forum's behalf.
 
Key Takeaways:
- He is insanely hot. He has a nice face, but his body is absolutely perfect. He said he was just in a physique competition last week, so he's been working out really hard and watching everything he easts. I'm pretty good with words and I was speechless
- He is still doing the "$50 extra for erotic" bait-and-switch after the appointment has been made
- The massage table was not well padded and made me uncomfortable
- He seemed to mentally float in and out while I was there; he paused to check texts, email and leave the room a couple times to 'blow his nose' (ahem)
- Massage not great, but he makes his entire body available to me throughout and was fairly interactive
- He's gay for sure, if that's important to anyone. We talked about crazy ex-boyfriends
 
I am glad I did it because, in spite of the negatives, it was pretty awesome to have free reign over one of the hottest guys ever.
 
That said, it did not live up to my expectations. I will not be seeing him again.
 
Hope it helps!

He is a very sweet guy, and he looked adorable like his pictures, but his massage was not good. Very much what a non-professional perceives as a good massage. We did have mutual touch, and mutual HE, but for outcalls at $160, there are so many better masseurs. VERY disappointed. His reviews are probably based on his sweetness. but it was a D for me. I took one here for the team.

It could be because I am drunk right now but I was laughing so hard at this that I cried. I hope you don't mind man. Reading this is the perfect way to end my day. I think you win!!!!!!

I have used SA for 4 years. It does take some time and effort to find a decent sugar babby. I usually ask how the site is working for them. Most say they have had little luck or never met anyone. I then ask to be specific in what they are looking for out me and what they want. Some are wishy washy and others are very clear. Most want me to offer them something. I don't want a live-in or a monthly arrangement so I state I want a casual thing that works when we both can match up our schedules. I offer a one night $$ amount and a weekend (two nights) $$ amount. It is not a lot but it seems to satisfy most sugar babies. The ones that want thousands of dollars are not even chatted with again. I say that is too much and leave it at that. Some do negotiate and I listen to their offers. Sometimes we come to an agreement and other times it does not work. What is the best situation? It is a young man who digs older men and does not want any money but just expenses paid...or minimal amounts for spending. They basically use SA to find cool and sexy older men. Yes...there are a lot of young men on SA using it for that reason. I had a few really cool and sexy jocks that were fun and and we enjoyed our time together. I had a couple of duds that knew nothing about having good erotic sex. Then I had one who was adding money during sex in order to go on....he was sent home that day. Overall....great site but it takes work. I like to spend more than an hour with a guy and I like to connect. It works for that reason for me and is far less expensive than an escort.

I would just look at this as a humorous adventure. Every so often this happens and one just needs to keep his guard up. My philosophy is no money ever unless it is in person for a fair exchange...or a small amount in advance for transportation.

I think you are generalizing a bit here but you do have some valid points. I think it is also important to note where the SB is located. Living on a ranch in the southwest I find that a lot of young men use it to find a local "daddy" because there is nothing available on the other online or app sites. SA mostly has decent Sugar Daddies. I think the big cities are a far different case. Everything online takes weeding out the bad boys...dating sites, escort sites, massage sites, sex apps......it takes time and some experience. Sometimes it is worth it. I do miss the days where you could only meet guys at a gay bar or event.

I think you are generalizing a bit here but you do have some valid points. I think it is also important to note where the SB is located. Living on a ranch in the southwest I find that a lot of young men use it to find a local "daddy" because there is nothing available on the other online or app sites. SA mostly has decent Sugar Daddies. I think the big cities are a far different case. Everything online takes weeding out the bad boys...dating sites, escort sites, massage sites, sex apps......it takes time and some experience. Sometimes it is worth it. I do miss the days where you could only meet guys at a gay bar or event.

CBA, you are spot on in your first posting. That is John. He played eclectic music that paired perfectly with what he was doing in the session. He also had some garnishes that enhanced our sessions even more.
 
Maninsoma, your description fits that of the John that I am writing about. In our meetings he had shorter hair and later he had a buzz cut.
 
John seemed to himself get pleasure out of finding and stimulating my erogenous areas. I have never felt a more intimate connection with a masseur. Like you, CBA, I always left feeling so in touch with my body and sensuality. Then to go fully Roman hedonistic I would sometimes gorge on a big bowl of late night ramen at the place just down the street from John's apartment. Good times.
 
Boy, I sure do miss him. No one has beaten the standard that he set.

He was lean, yes a little hair on his chest...bald I don't remember. I just know that he was absolutely the best sensual experience I ever had with anyone....he knew a mans body and how to be erotic will all of a mans sensitive points....I would leave drained because of the experience but so in touch with my body and my sensuality.

I think I remember who you are talking about. I forgot his name but I saw a guy on Geary also.....the massages lasted a long time and he used many different things to sensualize the body. We was especially fond of the rear end as I remember....haha. He was one of a kind.

I am set to meet with him next week in SD. He does go to school and works another job. I wish the internet and a site like RM was available when I was a college kid attending Stanford. I would have totally been spending every weekend flying or driving wherever to meet clients . Rather I was doing valet work and waiting tables and struggling. I have discovered with these young college guys that they know what they have to offer. If they are fun, smart, clean and safe and respectful they can clean up and still have time to do the college scene and go to school.

maybe too many guys have told him how young and cute he is!

His in rate is $300 and his out is $350 that is not low end. Now from what I have read above he appears to be something of a prima donna. I've been hiring too long to put up with that type of nonsense no matter how appealing the guy is physically. At those rate, in my book, he needs to be far more congenial and communicative - PASS!

Some I've met did not even wait that long.

My SA meet-up I took a rather handsome Latino to a nice dinner, he gave me a goodbye hug at the end. Following day he texted me "Can I ask you a question?", "Sure, go ahead." "Would you help me with my $1150 rent?"

Good review of SA men. I will add to take a very light hearted approach. Do not get upset or demand things if things don't go your way with a young man. There are plenty of young men on SA and more get on every day. Just move on. I do think it is important to be right up front about sex but do not be over sexual. If you want sex and they don't move on. Too many guys think they can meet a rich older man just for company. I am sure there are older men that just want company but most want sex in some type of relationship.

Good review of SA men. I will add to take a very light hearted approach. Do not get upset or demand things if things don't go your way with a young man. There are plenty of young men on SA and more get on every day. Just move on. I do think it is important to be right up front about sex but do not be over sexual. If you want sex and they don't move on. Too many guys think they can meet a rich older man just for company. I am sure there are older men that just want company but most want sex in some type of relationship.

I continue to use it with pretty good success. I filter the profiles for distance and age. I look for profiles that are interesting and say hello. I ask them upfront if they expect sex to be a part of the arrangement. If they say no, I tell them I do and wish them luck. I have met three so far and slept with all three. Remember these aren't pros, well usually not, (Avi Dar is on the site) so performance is not scripted. All three were nice guys, one looking for a boyfriend (I'm not) the other needed a little work at the gym and the third is a real sweetheart. I am going to do another meeting with him. There is a fourth that I have scheduled for next month. Financial needs and expectations vary. There is usually some travel expense involved and at least an overnight stay, unless you are in New York. If you filter over 25 you get a lot of right out of school trying to get by on starting salary types and not so many twinks and students who don't know really what they want. It's a different market place so it takes a different mindset but definitely worth your while. Also, somewhere back in this thread it talks about the % of straight marriages in this country that have some financial facet. That is so true in both the gay and straight world. Anyway, take a different approach to this site, realize that there are no free rides anywhere and see where it takes you.

The ones that make me laugh are:
 
1. Giving the finger as a profile pic.
2. Sticking their tongue thinking that is attractive.
3. A picture of them at least 300 feet away or more.
4. The need for lots of money but they want nothing sexual. "Just looking for a mentor and friend."

There are more than a few gold diggers on Seeking Arrangement. Sort of like drunks in bars....goes with the territory.