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I have had experiences like that. Time passes and you winder what happened to those marriages....

Comments on this very long thread I am sure we have all heard the "if all gay men were purple " analogy. There are some obviously effeminate gay guys that were for years the stereotype for all gay men. These days not so much. There are also some very effeminate straight guys. In retrospect, the effeminate guys were pretty brave. Like the term pansy....anyone that knows plants know that pansies are tough little M%^&F*&^%s blooming all winter long in the coldest of weather. Those effeminate guys from yesteryear were loud and proud before it was cool. Now men who identify as gay come in all varieties. Watch ABC and tell me who is more masculine Geo Benitez or Whitt Johnson. Pretty much interchangable. Progress ! Our tastes evolve over the years? Not for me, I was a sucker for muscleboy tops 28-32, 30 years ago and I am today. And porn stars always turn my head. I once spent a great weekend with the infamous Joe Cade in 1989. It's just more expensive now, but you don't have to stay up as late until the bars get busy! Thank you for the internet! Not sure Gay4Pay really exists.... I think "not willing to admit so I say straight" is more like it. Bisexual is probably the truth. Or maybe just being so sexual that it doesn't matter who the partner might be. There are all sorts of issues that all of us face, gay or straight, tall or short, black or white. Who can tell what causes us to turn out the way we are. There are legions of shrinks trying to figure out the human brain, gay or straight. Not sure they will ever figure it out. There are self loathers everywhere. Sorry for that. Never knock yourself someone will always do it for you. But it's not limited to the gay community. Not sure where I got off on all of this so early on Sunday morning, but thanks if you plowed through it. Sometimes I wish I had been one of those brave pansies that gave gay men the stereotype instead of the semicloseted finance guy that I am.

Met him today. Sweet guy, not so much English. The pictures aren't necessarily old, just let's say he was at his peak then and may have lost alot of that edge. Willing, reasonable, but not a repeat. Better at his escort duties than massage. PM for details if you like.

I would rather see his face. I don't need cock shots to hire, but faceless is an issue.

I think he picked the wrong place to offer his services.

I prefer to "build a connection" before I do an overnight as well. $900....I'm not saying I wouldn't, just not for him. Maybe just maybe if he didn't have the tats. Meanwhile, pass.

He has got to be 55 or so by now.

You have great taste...good luck and have a great time.

Lots of talk about this guy. Headed to NYC in August. Maybe I should check him out.

If $50 is a deal breaker then stick to the internet. Had a ribeye in a restaurant lately? Or at home. Hiring is a luxury. Luxury has it's price.

What a shame he's a bottom. Perfect otherwise. And $$'s? Well, it's only money guys.....

Damn, wonder what the back story is on this guy. Pretty spectaclular

The pictures are great….but he is a straight guy that just wants you to worship. I’m not spending any amount to be told no over and over if I cross a boundary. That’s just an exercise in frustration!

$500 is pretty normal…what I count on….250 for “massage” . Only fair …

Clear? Or red? pink?

Portland….maybe he’s a friend of Nixon

I found him charming smart polite and hot. Very accomodating.

Unfortunately not seeing clients anymore. So no report. Must have been a short term financial need. Bummer huh!

He really doesn't know what he is missing...

Not anything that wouldn't get sensored.

Now he looks like the frat boys I remember. Really young but so good looking!

Well, he may be a really nice guy and legit as he can be, but he doesn't look like the frat boys where I went to shcool. He does look like the plumber that comes in smelling of cigarettes and needing a haircut and a shower.

Looking at the RM add, not sure I would care

You don't want to piss those two off.

Three hours is a LONG TIME unless you are having dinner. I usually pay $500 minimum, more if its the right day . Massuers, I will pay the rate they ask as you never know where that is going to go. If it goes there..then I indulge with a tip. Who says you can't buy popularity. <G>