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I am also new to the massage scene only getting massages going on less than 3 months. Being that I’m a bigger person, in my initial email to the therapist when they don’t mention they accept people of all shapes and sizes, I always make it clear that I am big and if they have body type restrictions to please let me know. I understand that folks have problems with weight so I’m not here/there to waste anybody’s times. Luckily for me, I have not yet received any rejections other than some therapists never texting me back (that’s my queue to move along). I’m pretty considerate with my massage exchanges and like massagelife has mentioned. I’m never upfront about the details of how I would like my massage. I let the therapist give me the details and just roll with the punches.
 
Now getting to the sensual/erotic and what it means to me.
Sensual: I’m nude on the table while the therapist sometimes may have at least a pair of shorts/underwear to start off the session. During the massage, there are a light brushes here and there between my butt crack, balls, light touches to bring the tingles enough to get me turned on. MT is less inclined during the massage portion, but at times can be acceptable during the HE (depending on the therapist, they may not offer HE).
Erotic: We both start nude and the therapist goes to work with the massage. There is more touch involved and more often throughout the session. The body language is there for more mutual touch and the therapists focuses more on arousing the client and MT most times are encouraged throughout the duration and the HE for both therapist and the client.
 
I too have lucked out where the therapists offers just sensual, they’ve allowed me to touch them while they work on my climax. I do sometimes wonder if they allow such thing because during the massage itself, my hands are kept to myself like a good little schoolboy. I only get to touch when they graze my body and hand accidentally that they are more lenient with the MT towards the end. During the erotic sessions, I too keep my cool during the massage, unless there is encouragement to touch etc, that’s when I take that queue and work with it, but again reserving myself to not look like I’m just there to tug away at the therapists genitals. I’ve been pretty happy with the outcome of all massages I’ve gotten so far minus 2. Both of those times were those guys that give you the magic word “you can jerk yourself off”. Oh how I despise that phrase.
 
Sorry for this long message, but I thought some of these factors that I present may be useful for others.

I’ve posted in another thread that the anticipation of what’s to come during the massage excites me. Many times I hire someone who doesn’t advertise extras but the hints are on the ad. As soon as the massage begins, I’m turned on by the subtle hints I get that it will go beyond a simple massage. I’ve gotten good at giving the hints myself.

Very interesting topic. I agree about loving the hands all over me, but for me I think it's like this. Because I am paying for his services, I don't have to look loke a porn star, or perform like one. I can be me, and because I am the client, it's his responsibility to treat me like I am a porn star. If he doesn't, I'm disappointed and move on. I have been lucky. The masseurs I have seen treat me like a young stud that I clearly am not. This is what makes me prefer this avenue.

Not that frequent, but I don't usually get very specific about my time with a masseur unless the person PMing me has a little bit of a history here. With newbies I stay completely general in my comments.

Yes. It is an addiction. I’d like to hire a hot therapist(Like Alexi in Miami) once a day, but realistically, I could only do it a few times a year.
 
Maybe one day I’ll win the lotto and have all my dreams come true.

Yes. It is an addiction. I’d like to hire a hot therapist(Like Alexi in Miami) once a day, but realistically, I could only do it a few times a year.
 
Maybe one day I’ll win the lotto and have all my dreams come true.

Yes. It is an addiction. I’d like to hire a hot therapist(Like Alexi in Miami) once a day, but realistically, I could only do it a few times a year.
 
Maybe one day I’ll win the lotto and have all my dreams come true.

Yes. It is an addiction. I’d like to hire a hot therapist(Like Alexi in Miami) once a day, but realistically, I could only do it a few times a year.
 
Maybe one day I’ll win the lotto and have all my dreams come true.

Yes. It is an addiction. I’d like to hire a hot therapist(Like Alexi in Miami) once a day, but realistically, I could only do it a few times a year.
 
Maybe one day I’ll win the lotto and have all my dreams come true.

This can be addicting! Especially if you find a hot masseur.

You’ll be disappointed if you book him expecting to see that body. He’s thinner, with a lean build. Not sensual at all, unless you consider him running the very tips of his finger across your body, barely touching you, as sensual.

What does this have to do with massage???

I also enjoy the thrill of the unknown:)

I wonder about this too. I always warn in advance that I’m a big, tall, fat chubby bear and give my weight.

You’ll be disappointed if you book him expecting to see that body. He’s thinner, with a lean build. Not sensual at all, unless you consider him running the very tips of his finger across your body, barely touching you, as sensual.

Why do they consistently need to change profile names? It's sketchy.

This could have been easily avoided if the escort was professional/mature enough to have a conversation.
 
If you don't string people along, you won't have to ghost them.

If you going to the private place paying them $160/hr you guys think we should still tip them ? I understand the spas because they have over heads to cover and they charge $60-$80 they should be tipped

If you going to the private place paying them $160/hr you guys think we should still tip them ? I understand the spas because they have over heads to cover and they charge $60-$80 they should be tipped

He really shouldn't offer mutual touch and release if he doesn't enjoy it. I don't know about other guys, but I would rather both be enjoying the moment rather than just me being serviced (sexually). It's a major turn off when it's obvious that a partner isn't having fun.

I would skip. The hour lasted no more than 20 minutes.

@Brutus I’m stunned that you would be so crass. No, you NEVER ask “if he escorts”! You have to be respectful.
 
The essence of this thread is that these young men are often available. They do not, however, consider themselves as escorts nor do they advertise. If you’re just looking for an hour of wham-bang quick sex, these guys are not for you.
 
The aim is to form a relationship with a handsome, muscled young man. If you are an older man, you have to use your natural advantages of experience, worldliness and financial capacity. Of course to a handsome muscled young man of 18-23, an older man can be aged 35.
 
I’m much older than that and was 50 when I started meeting models etc. I have the ability to talk to people easily, to make them laugh and to focus all my attention on them. In short, I always courted a young man and seduced him into my bed. Luckily, in many cases it didn’t require a lot of effort. I mentioned earlier that I’d always invite an attractive young guy to dinner in a good restaurant. I also stated how you have to be aware that these guys may work as models, trainers etc but their financial situation is generally precarious.
 
I always preferred to have an introduction to a guy from a mutual contact, but if that wasn’t possible I’d use a direct (but respectful) approach.
 
FWIW to a guy I was chatting to in person, I used to smile and say ‘ You’re interesting. I’d like to get to know you better. How about I take you for a coffee (or a drink, or lunch, or dinner)?’ Just suggest whatever seems appropriate for the time/place, eg if at the gym after a work-out, I’d offer to buy them a meal. Be friendly and don’t get upset if he refuses; just smile and say ‘I hope to see you around. Maybe next time we can chat more’
 
And in the past, I’ve met a few guys off IG. I send a polite message, saying their posts have impressed me and I would enjoy meeting them. I suggest that I take them out for drinks to get acquainted.
 
Bear in mind that most handsome, muscled young men (working as models, trainers etc) have been hit on before by older men (and women). They are not going to be surprised or shocked by you but you must display some finesse and discretion. Most of these guys do not want their friends to know how they manage to finance their lifestyle.

More power to those of you who have limitless funds to pursue fashion models, fitness models, body builders, etc in this manner. I can’t say I can relate. I think I will live vicariously through you all

I hate to dispute anyones truths but i have known many str8 guys from different cultures in different settings. I dont associate str8 men with voracious cum swallowing. I wasnt in the room with u but its safe to say alot of escorts are taking extreme liberties with the definition of sexual orientation. I make distinctions between masc then closeted then curious then str8. There is levels to the shit as they say. Many claim the last category but need to be in one of the preceding categories. Someone who has a str8 fetish cares about these silly little distinctions while to the masses its one in the same.

He will indeed put some zip in your doo-dah ... I speak from experience - a terrific pleasure.