BigRic

@Eight by Six:

I'm happy to see a couple of client members push back on this notion of whether you should "ask for a discount or not." I don't mean to be disrespectful and I know part of the point of the forum is to air issues, pose question and get replies . . . and it's in that spirit that I ask, where the eff does the discount idea come from?

You're asking two guys to perform for you with a second set of eyes in the room who have--as far as you know at this time--never been with each other before. Unless and until they say otherwise (or an escort states in his ad that he does duos with so-and-so), you should be offering a premium above their stated rates, not contemplating a "discount" for a duo. Especially since one of them straight up says he's straight, there could be performance anxieties involved.

Re "I assume they won't try to charge for each other being there too. But probably should get clear on that." Yes, you should get clear and not ass-ume anything like this. A popular escort in Vegas told me he doubles his rate whenever there is a third party involved, even if it's another escort. And this is a dude who (allegedly) does not top or bottom. I'm not saying that's the most marketable approach.

But I am saying that you should approach this with largesse not chiseling foremost in mind. Respect your own cock/desire enough to respect the guys who have the potential to make your fantasies come true.

"Show [them] the money."

Pretty cocky but wouldn't you all be cocky if you looked like that??

I can only speak for myself: No. And to me, the Big Sexy--unless you're paying for some other demeanor in a private booking away from the club, which it's my understanding Alfie does not do--is to have great looks but not believe all the things The Matrix tells you about how you're God's Gift.

I saw Alfie at the last Adonis nude party in LA maybe 3 weeks ago. These pics are pretty accurate. In fact he may even be a little bigger and more cut.

 

He's a hustler for sure. I don't buy the brand but his bod is on point.

I didn't work the last nude party but part of my point is that the last time I saw him a few months ago he was indeed bigger than in these photos, at least in the chest. In the many months I've worked with/around him, I've also never seen either this hairstyle or highlighting. So I surmise the pics are either very old (two years plus) or very new (and he's off cycle).

The other part of my point is that there are some of us with bodies that are just as much if not more "on point" who don't have the arrogant, 'everybody wants my cock' attitude. Hardoff. But he is very successful in this dancer context. Troubling IMO but that's a whole 'nother thread.

What's the date of these "current" photos?

"I'm glad Trump won. Now we have a hot First Lady." --Alfie

Or it could be small and that's why he doesn't do it. He's probably tapping into precisely the titillation you're exhibiting.

Wonderful, even poetic, post ^^ @Bayman4Fun. I'm perturbed by the negative experiences you mention, especially those two a**holes who declined to do a massage session for you last week . . . in oh-so-progressive (?) SFO no less.

My understanding, such as it is, of the "issue" is not whether the pics are "retouched"/altered/processed/"morphed" but why if he's so remarkable. It's precisely because he's such a gigantor that the pictures are altered: I'd surmise he does not want to be so easily identified "on the streets."

It's "hilarious" to me how some fetishize that level of muscle but then question some of the choices someone in that shape might make in the name of discretion regarding the escort services he provides.

Funny what a quick search turns up, @Funcompany.

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/reese.123161/

I have been looking at photos for years now and certain of his photos just look off. I would ask for some type of legitimization pic or pics. If he wants clients, he shouldn't really mind.

Or maybe he already has so many clients he doesn't need to "mind" those seeking "some type of legitimization" before meeting him.

who give a f what an ugly escort like you thinks. stop harassing me with your junk mail, I suppose if u actually have any client, you won't be spending all your time here typing nonsense and sending junk mails.

Oncology? Internal medicine? Can't be the Jules Stein Eye Institute or Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior since those facilities already have name-on-the-building benefactors. I'm thinking . . . psychopathology/mental health.

That is a nice variety of guys in Philadelphia! Some of them should travel south to DC

Hello, Amtrak. This is precisely what I'm doing late today.

He's got 16 RM reviews from "Couture Designer" a known writer of fake reviews.

 

~Boomer ~

Some 39+ hours of multihour sessions and six overnight bookings from this one "client" over the course of a few months? When does he have time to do his couture designing? I'm not saying some escorts don't have obsessive clients but this is pretty blatant fraud IMO.

I've discussed James on MSS for those so inclined.

(P.S. - I trust/hope, @diehard_002, you have his permission to post his photo here?)

Sent you a PM, @Ryanwood.

More muscular than some of the options mentioned here and in Philly for one more day . . .

I choose the person based on the similarities between our ads. Also I have good intuition about these things. Sadly, half the time many escorts don't respond. Then I just reach out to someone else. I've developed several friendships from these get togethers and also it's nice to know I have a place to stay free of change if I want to return to a given place. Of course they are also welcome to stay with me in Minneapolis and check out the market here.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've experienced some unresponsiveness. I often don't contact someone via my RM e-mail. (FWIW I wouldn't necessarily assume that I have a place to stay for free "just" because I've made a new contact.) I sense that there is going to be a lot of variance on these matters from one market to another.

Every time I travel I always make a point to at least grab a beer and share a few laughs with one of the locals

Do you mind talking a bit about how you chose who you're going to tip pints back with? Is it usually someone who has reached to you?

I hired my two favorite escorts for a threesome once. It was really difficult to put together. The escorts wanted pictures of each other and a complete description of what each other liked to do. Then there had to be assurances that neither was getting a price break and both would be paid equally. The meeting stared somewhat awkwardly but once everyone was naked all seemed to have a good time. I should have asked for a fee for my trouble in putting ittogether

FWIW I would have handled this differently, as either an escort or client. To the extent it's safe to assume (?) that you'd seen both of these dudes repeatedly since you say they were both favorites, it shouldn't have been difficult to do a duo and it sounds like they made it so . . . with your (tacit) permission.

IMO you should have told each what you want and who the other desired hire is. Period. They could then be free to look at each other's ads and discuss the session with an eye towards making you happy. Of course, this broaches the possibility of "collusion" but it seems to me that's a peril of duos either way, whether the "ex parte" communications be going on between one escort and the client or the two escorts.

You could/should offer in advance a premium on top of the usual rate you pay to each given that there is another person involved. But IMO it's not appropriate for the escort(s) to be seeking reassurances about parity in compensation. Frankly, it's none of the escort's business how much you're paying another provider. That could be a function of how long you've been seeing one of them versus the other.

The responses are all welcomed and fun to read! Thanks for indulging me with this thread so far . I'm on my way to London from Amsterdam for a week and then I'm back in Holland for a few more months. Have a couple of escorts that want to get drinks and have a fun time. I'm honestly just going with it and it has led to more opportunities with clients over this way as well. Wish me luck!

@Hungmixedboi88, I'm wondering how much of your time is spent in Europe versus the U.S. If it's significant in both, I'm wondering if/hoping you can comment on whether there are different attitudes about this in your experience in the U.S. versus in Europe?

Also, I'm wondering if any other escorts resent the approach of another escort who isn't clear about what he wants (in the case I'm contemplating, the other escort is gay according to a client of his). He's repeatedly not answered my question regarding what he has in mind.

On the one hand, he sometimes works in a major market where it might be beneficial for me to further network for the sake of comparing notes, possible duos, having additional options of places to stay in an expensive market in the future, tossing each other business, etc. This guy has more experience and more clients than me. And yeah, he's freakin' hot. But on the other, whenever I've approached another escort I've always mentioned money thereby giving them the courtesy of then telling me if they're willing to meet me gratis.

<Linda Richman voice>"I'll give you a topic . . . Discuss!" </Linda Richman voice>

reputation? you losers are truly pathetic. when and where gamechanger indicated he had any interest to have a 'reputation' among you lowlives who think 500 is a lot money and need a thread to discuss if it's worth it. so sad! you idiots have been a really fun entertainment, 'the sour grape explosion'. nice show

Although I understand some of the sentiment, I of course take issue with some of the word choice.

I'm reminded of some moments I've had over the years working Adonis wherein a porn star is marketed in the e-mails with such sizzle but doesn't impress me and/or personally makes some grand pronouncement "backstage" about how much money he makes in porn and/or makes a condescending remark about (a) customer(s). I think to myself, "Wasn't I just right next to you a few moments ago doing lapdances for customers?" In other words, if you're really all that what are you doin' here?

If this thread is indeed a pigsty sh*t show of "pathetic" "lowlives" and "losers," it sure looks like you're not doing much to raise the level of oinkin' goin' on at the trough. If you're gonna use that kinda language, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd like a little edification as to which part of the David Geffen Medical School campus is named after you. To paraphrase Queen Latifah's great track "Name Callin'" from the Set It Off soundtrack, I'd like to have "handled this like ladies," but you of course didn't deign to respond to the PM I sent you after some of your remarks in a thread about "my boy" Ryan Steel.

Brad's in L.A. for about a week.

http://muscleforums.yuku.com/topic/48363/master/1/?page=1

As Goosh said in another thread (albeit, in what I would call a mischaracterization, referring to some "defensive" behavior in connection with another popular muscle escort): "Leave Britney alone!"

". . . just stop draggin' me around." LOL.

I actually like the guy

Yes, "we" got that part.

U guys are terrible to Gamechanger

LOL I kinda thought that last post prior to yours, NJMuscle, was more critical of a/the fickle client than NT/GC.

Hey, some of us already moved on to discussing Arab Spring.

But @Seaworld if NT is saying "Leave Me Alone," tell him that it's hard for some of us to just drop it given "The Way [He Makes Us] Feel": "[We] Just Can't Stop Loving [Him]." Maybe we can't be "Just Good Friends" when he's become "Another Part Of [us]."

Well, some of us.

"Ciao," bello.