BtmBearDad

Clearly the gents dressed like Rip Taylor and Liberace, speaking like Paul Lynde or Charles Nelson Reilly, and chatting about Barbra, Liza, and Judy would be the gays. 😝

I’ve noticed a few glitches myself. Redirecting to the older version then asking if you want to try the 7.0 version, and if you do, you get sent to the home page not the provider profile. I had the pic problem too, but that’s gone away. One welcome glitch was for a day all review was visible, but that too went away.

This 100%! Sometimes, there’s just something inexplicable about a guy that just attracts me 🤷🏼‍♂️

• voices • accents • sense of humour - dark, sarcastic, goofy, etc. • book smart, and successful but they betray an innocence, a naivety about everything else • uses random historical, cultural references that have largely disappeared from modern usage

The pictures do draw one’s attention, even if they do seem a bit “off” - whether from cropping, enhancing, age, etc., I can’t say 🤷🏼‍♂️

97%, 98%, or 99% - you’re both summa cum laud - time to put this debate to rest.

His ad is gone - unless he reincarnates under a new name 🤷🏼‍♂️

I have not, and do not, present myself as any type of “source” here. I only offered by own concurrence with the 97-99% range previously cited upthread based on my conversations with my doctor, and what reading I did on PrEP when I started on it however many years ago it was, however anecdotal it may be.

FWIW, the 97-99% range @pubic_assistance references is in line with what I’ve been told by my doctor, and what I have read in the past. Same with @Coolwave35’s statements. Every 3 months my doctor does emphasise the importance of adherence to the medication schedule, and quizzes me on my own adherence: • take daily • if you miss a dose, refrain from sexual activity until “X” days (can’t recall the number) of being back on the daily regiment • if you’ve had, or believe you’ve had an exposure to HIV, call immediately to get a prescription for PEP While I haven’t missed a day, my doctor did take me off PrEP for 3 months to monitor another condition/medication (totally unrelated) to ensure the PrEP wasn’t having any negative impacts. Fortunately this was during covid, and while the lockdowns were more or less lifted, I wasn’t looking to hook up at the time. Once back on though, I believe I was told to wait 2 weeks before engaging in any sexual activity. Yes, it’s not 100% effective, but everyone needs to assess their own comfort level with that fact. I don’t think it matters what role you take, or whether it’s with a provider, a f-buddy, a hookup, or even a bf/partner if you’re in an open relationship. Just my tuppence. BBD

Also interested in any intel on this hottie 🤔

Not to derail, but you are the 4th person I know that is heading to Colombia over the next 2 months! One of my closest friends says Colombia is the new gay destination in South America - who knew! 🤷🏼‍♂️ BBD

I’d say “yes” but don’t forget, there is a not insignificant number of hobbyists who while they are, do not identify as “gay” because of unresolved internal homophobic issues. They want “a man” not “a gay”. A man who is “straight acting”, not a gay who lisps, and listens to Liza, Judy, and Barbra. I don’t agree with any of it, I’m just acknowledging this mindset still exists in 2023, both in the world and in these forums 🤷🏼‍♂️ BBD

I agree - I have known some legitimate “gold card gays” who advertised themselves as “bi” as a marketing ploy. One in fact billed himself as “straight” for the same reason. It feeds into a lot of fantasies many hobbyists have, and makes the provider that much more attractive. 🤷🏼‍♂️ BBD

I understand what you’re saying, and do agree to an extent. If this was a 3some outside of this hobby, I think making sure everyone is getting equal attention is a valid argument. But given the nature of this hobby, I don’t think that should be a valid concern. Many hobbyists engage here to live what is unavailable to them in real life - whatever that may be. Both in this hobby, and n real life a good bit of what happens is organic. You may click better with Guy A, you may enjoy what Guy A is doing better, Guy A may be more your type, etc.. It just happens - no harm, no foul. In real life 3somes, I know I have been more mindful of this, and do make efforts if it happens to include Guy B more. In this hobby tho, when it has happened, it’s much more a “just go with” type of thing, at least for me. In the overwhelming majority, the couple are perfectly fine with how that plays out. In fact, I have found couples get off a bit on the whole voyeuristic aspect of watching their partner/being watched by their partner when with another man. The jealousy that I think is a problem is when one partner gets jealous over the attention the other is giving or receiving from the client. That partner cannot separate the professional aspect from the personal. It’s those providers I think that should not then engage in or even offer 3somes. Two examples - one couple I had played with separately multiple times with each knowing of course, before we engaged in a 3 some. As things progressed, I did give more attention to, and wanted more attention from Guy A. Guy B got off on it, and a fun time was had by all. Another couple, I had engaged with Guy B on his own, and enjoyed our encounters. He suggested a 3some with his partner, and I was down for it. While Guy B was hot and fun, his partner was a bit more my type, and Guy A picked up on it and returned the attention. Mind you, Guy B was kept involved throughout, but it was clear he did not like the attention Guy A was paying me. Lesson learned. Thereafter, with this couple, it was only one on ones which worked well, provided if it was a one on one with Guy A, I hosted at his suggestion, as I came to find out Guy B would “linger”. Again, just my tuppence based on experiences.

Thanks for the link to the previous thread! Based on his actual profile, and @jrk69’s comments, our Turkish Cowboy is on the LA list for this hobbyist 😉 Cheers, BBD

I *believe* he (Trevor) edits his profile so he cannot be found in a search when he is “unavailable”. As it was explained to me, he changes his name, removes pics, and parks himself in a random city/location, so I’m guessing the “stats” part may also be edited. We’ll see what he has listed when he goes “live” again. 😉 Cheers, BBD

I purposefully did not address any other point in the OP’s post, as I think they were all valid reasons to decline another engagement. I remarked on the lack of lube contretemps as it is as you say, basic to the whole thing undertaking, I was shocked neither was prepared (tho to me, the his has the greater burden here). It shouldn’t be just down to the provider or the client. Both should always be prepared, period. As you said, this is a “premium service”, so as much as the provider needs to take care of basics, the client needs to confirm those basics are taken care of as well. This is probably the most “no brainer” part of this entire hobby, so it’s always amusing to me to read posts bemoaning providers for failing to bring, have, supply lube, condoms. It just boggles my mind that grown, adult men aren’t making sure themselves that these basics are taken care of, rather than relying on strangers to do so.

110%! I know from conversations on here, and offline, a yay or nay from Max, (and a few others), is enough for many forum members, (myself included), to either decide to engage or pass on a provider. 👍🏻 Having said that, and clicked on the link to the previous thread - wow! That was some read! Such a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, in a fog of memories! Are they the same guy? How many different profiles does he have? Can he keep it up? Does he kiss? Is he too picky? Is he the same guy? Quel mystère! 😂 I think my favourite post was how the telephone number was the same number @Hung_Cody had saved for Adrian Moss. ADRIAN MOSS?!? Good grief! That was a blast from the past - and not in good way. I swear, all that thread needed was someone paging Judge Crater! 😝 Just go by what Max -and Cody- have to say about a given provider, and you should be fine 👍🏻 Cheers, BBD

On the whole “neither of us had lube” - am I the only one wondering why the client didn’t don’t have any himself? 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’ve had friends (both fellow hobbyists and non-hobbyists) say the same - “he didn’t have / didn’t bring lube / condoms”. As I have said to them, I say here: As a sexual active man, you make sure they’re in your nightstand at home, and in your Dopp kit when you’re traveling. Period.

As with all things with this hobby, and in life, be kind, respectful, polite, and remember “please” and “thank you”. Also, be serious. In addition to being inundated with messages, pic requests, providers have careers and lives outside thus hobby, and would rather not have a face pic on the profile. While being serious about hiring is not a guarantee, it does give some comfort about sharing face pics privately. At least that is the gist of what a few different providers have told me. Good luck! BBD PS: @CuriousByNature I think @ThroatCummer will agree, the face pics do lot disappoint 😉