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Don't see how. He was never denied treatment or even had anything to do with UHC. He lifted weights and went surfing after his back surgery. What anger "toward the industry"??? The industry did nothing to him.

Yet, you can't cite one example.

Do you have any examples of these "lifesaving" claim denials??? The only ones that I have read about are limiting psychiatrist visits (big deal, find someone else to talk their ears off) and denying wegovy (how about eating less).

Most of this thread is filled with harking to unicorns including the idea that non-profit status miraculously makes costs cheap and freely available. It doesn't. Medicare is a perfect example. People want high quality, low cost, and immediate access. Please tell me in what other industry can you successfully have all three? Mangione is an evil piece of crap who did this because he fancies himself a SJW. He will rot in the system, whether it's State or Federal. PS I've never been denied a claim from Blue Cross or UHC or even know anyone that has.

Not at 4 am.

Oh really, making a fuss about travel time???? You don't live there and my last trip took to Dulles from DC took 20 minutes.

Oh wow, being off on travel time. My last trip there took 20 minutes.

Just a horrible situation. If the airport is congested, and it is, then something should have been done years ago. It's a small airport with just 2 runways I believe. The VIP's insist on using it because it's right next to DC. Who cares about legislators having to travel an extra 20 minutes to Dulles?!

Yeah. It's like saying "I had no idea Liberace was gay".

You can say that again. Then they go through life mentally crippled and can't handle stressful situations.

VZ, like Pfizer, has a good dividend yield and a very reasonable forward P/E (less than 10). Those are great points to consider. Many of these high-tech companies pay little or no dividends and trade at high P/E ratios. Don't know how that's going to play out, but it didn't end well in 2000.

Bryce Canyon is nice but watch out for mountain lions. Do NOT turn your back on them if they see you and don't run either.

Yeah, it's all Fox News' faulty...lmao....not that there are fire hydrants with no water.....absolutely hysterical. No wonder you have Governor William J. LePetomane.

Yes, you are correct. And that's starting to change in Fl, CA, NJ, etc. With much higher insurance rates coming, people can choose to live where they want but they should PAY for that risk out of their own pocket, as it should be. Florida real estate owners are paying much more now for the risk of hurricanes and building on marsh land. NJ shore owners are paying more for living in flood prone areas along the Atlantic. What amazes me about the LA fires is that some people here accept no responsibility for it and having a shitty water delivery system had no effect whatsoever (and they get insulted when you say their water delivery system sucks). There were dozens of homes along the coast with a mountain behind them that caught fire because of flying embers and the Fire Department was there and there was no water in the fire hydrants. If they had water, they could have hosed down those homes and saved them. That's what the fire captain said. It was on the news.

Exactly. And for CA boosters that are embarrassed. Yes, there could have been large scale damage even with enough water pressure. But when you have fire hydrants running DRY IN NO TIME, your water infrastructure just sucks.

Just read the article. YEAH..................RAN OUT OF WATER BECAUSE THERE IS NO CAPACITY IN THE SYSTEM. You need large reservoirs to have adequate supply and water pressure. LA doesn't have THAT. What is so difficult to understand??????

Like the LA Times is the Gospel. LA does have 114 water "tanks" which are woefully insufficient for an area of millions of people.

So correct. There are 100,000 OD deaths in this country every year now. It's triple from about 10 years ago. WTH!!!

What??? LA has 114 water "tanks" which ran out of water in no time! Large reservoirs should have been built by now with money appropriated years ago. That, and larger water pipes, would have supplied the water and pressure needed to combat these fires. It's all over the news!

I read it in the LA Times and Newsweek. It's all over the news! Fire hydrants with no water can't put out fires, whether you are living in a dry climate or a wet climate.

Well of course, since there are not a sufficient number of reservoirs to store the excess water from the North which can be used in an emergency, even though billions were appropriated for that purpose years ago. Your argument that this disaster is 100% caused by climate change is absurd.

I see what you're saying. Insurance rates should reflect the TRUE risk and not incentivize poor economic decisions, but what's done is done. The people whose homes have been destroyed will, for the most part, not get full reimbursement. And the State's "Fair Plan" insurance cannot pay out what will be needed. The reserves are too small.

But doubling the price? It's unconscionable in an emergency.

Now price gouging going on in rental prices, despite an emergency declaration against it. Landlords are demanding double and more for displaced renters according to Newsweek.

I don't know how these people are going to recover. The insurance companies saw this coming and have been bailing out of CA. Insurers had already scrapped hundreds of thousands of policies and limited coverage in wildfire-prone areas. What type of insurance premiums are they going to be paying now? 20k, 50k a year?