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    manTOman reacted to + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    What a truly horrible thing to yell jubilantly.
     
    So sure Jimmy Connors or John McEnroe would never ever say anything like that.
     
    (Sarcasm)
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    manTOman got a reaction from + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    That actually would have been funny instead of false, as bunch of your other statements.
     
    You are entitled to your opinion but so far no one has agreed, Novak fan or not, with the "sauntered" term in this thread. I am biased but try to stick to the facts, that you so blatantly misinterpret. If I hadn't seen the incident and read your posts on it, I would have had a very different outlook on the event. My role here is not to turn anyone into a Djokovic fan, but to simply address inaccuracies in your reporting. But judging by the current administration, I'm guessing fact check is not in trend these days. so I can't really blame you for that.
     
    If all that makes me rabid, so be it.
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    manTOman reacted to + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    I am hardly a rabid Novak Djokovic fan.
     
    Interesting decision to not respond anymore, after slamming folk who disagree with you.
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    manTOman reacted to + Charlie in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    He didn't see the ball hit her, and I don't think he realized immediately what had happened, until others started running to her.
     
    I have long been a fan of Novak's tennis, but I have sometimes questioned other aspects of his behavior and his judgment. He is not the only player who smacks balls in anger, but it is not appropriate for someone who wants to be a role model and knows that everything he does will be scrutinized.
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    manTOman got a reaction from + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    He was in shock that he actually hit someone. You could see it on his face. So yes it took him 10 seconds instead of 2 to walk over. I can't argue with what you see, but I do see things very differently.
     
     

     
    I am a Novak fan. He did refuse to speak to the press, not the first and probably not the last time he's done it. Many others have refused to do so. Serena skips them on some what regular bases. Federer less frequently, but he's done it too. If they skip the presser unless it's for medical reasons they get fined. It's completely within the rules. It happens almost every tournament and with much lesser ranked players too, and it's really not that extraordinary of an event. Would it have been better if he did face the press right then and there. Absolutely. But I do feel better late than never, and he did address the incident very shortly after.
     
    Whenever you are defaulted or disqualified you lose ranking points and prize money. It's in the rulebook. Serena got the same penalty when she was disqualified. Again nothing out of the ordinary here.
     
    He will probably receive an additional penalty although it probably won't be too severe, since he really had no intention of hitting anyone. If he did, that would have resulted in a much heavier penalty and most likely a suspension or a ban from the tour.
     
    The ten minute discussion was on the court with the referee. It was not an easy decision to make. Novak did not want to go home. I'm sure US Open didn't want to lose the number 1 seed, and the referee didn't want to make a wrong call. They don't have video replays or reviews, so the discussion was about what had happened. I watched it unfold live. This was televised and everyone saw it. Saying that
     

     
    is not accurate, since you imply that instead of him facing the press he chose to engage into the ten minute conversation. As I said that 10 minute conversation was necessary to review the event. The presser usually happens afterward and obviously he didn't chose to do one over the other. Obviously you're not a fan, but statements such as these are completely inaccurate.
     
    Again I am a Novak fan, but I'm also his critic. I think that his outbursts on court need to be addressed and there could not be a clearer sign than this. Hopefully he does turn this into a lesson about personal growth as he said he would.
     

     
    100% agree!
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    manTOman reacted to + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    If you had used the words "walk over" rather than "saunter over" this would have been a very different thread.
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    manTOman reacted to BSR in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Let me state for the record that I am a die-hard Novak fan. In his weekly mailbag, SI columnist Jon Wertheim responded to one of my questions, which I signed "from the world's biggest Novak fan not of Serbian descent."
     
    My take on this: First, I was furious at him for doing something so stupid. Once I calmed down, I started reading & watching all I could about the incident. Yes, Novak apologized. Even though it was obviously crafted by his publicist, I thought his apology was sincere (no fan bias, I swear!). But as Martina Navratilova pointed out, apologizing via Instagram is like breaking up with your girlfriend through email. Show your face, face the music, and get through the damn presser. You're a 17-year veteran of the tour -- suck it up.
     
    What troubles me most about this is how self-destructive it was. He knows the rules, he knows that hitting anyone on court is an automatic disqualification, yet he smacks balls around with line judges, ballkids, and photographers all around. He smacked a ball earlier in the general direction of the photographers' pit. It hit a barrier, not a photographer, but had the ball strayed a bit ... Then he smacks a ball behind him knowing full well that there are line judges & ballkids back there. It was just a matter of time before something like this happened.
     
    During the 3-year drought between Novak's 1st & 2nd Aussie Open titles, a commentator once described Novak as "a troubled young man." The remark got me all upset, which meant it was true. Obviously, Novak figured things out & got his act together. But this disqualification makes me think that Novak still has a few demons to wrestle.
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    manTOman reacted to wklukas in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    I‘ve watched the replay from 9 different news / media outlets....
    Among the 9, commentators / reporters have described NB as —
    running over.....5 times
    rushing over.....4 times
    sauntering........0
    my own lying eyes call it as running.....or rushing.....whichever you please
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    manTOman got a reaction from thomas in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Thank you for pointing that out. The guy was deeply concerned and genuine. Yet for some no matter what he does he will always be vilified to no end.
    He also was very honest in his apology for the incident, taking blame for his own behavior and saying he needs to grow as a player and a human being.
    [MEDIA=instagram]CE0AzAOH2cp[/MEDIA]
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    manTOman got a reaction from thomas in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Sorry
     

     
    That's Dominic Thiem. My pic to win the tournament
     

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    manTOman got a reaction from Filesum in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    I've seen the same behavior from Novak. Going completely out of the way to deal with fans. Once' he stayed for three hours after the tournament he won until he signed every single fan's item. This was outside of the stadium, on his way to the hotel It was a security nightmare.
     
    The comments I made about Federer are facts, not opinions. Mirka is a well known distractor at his matches, and that has been discussed by a lot of players in the press.
    https://nationalpost.com/sports/tennis/roger-federer-stan-wawrinka-argue-after-semi-final-match-because-of-comments-from-federers-wife-2
     
    Federer broke racquets and yelled and seemed frustrated on court on more than a few occasions.
     
    Their behavior with the fans is the same. All of them are very appreciative and grateful. All three are very charitable and have done great things both for the sport and on the global level. As I said all three are great sports ambassadors. Novak is just not as beloved as the other two, and definitely has the least crowd support out of the three.
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    manTOman reacted to Daverwr in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Sorry, I’m just skimming this thread looking for the pictures... ???
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    manTOman reacted to + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    I loved Novak Djokovic for his dogged perseverance against Roger Federer last year at Wimbledon. And, as always, in the Slams the crowd was against him.
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    manTOman reacted to Filesum in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    https://ibb.co/2ntRGrD
    For all you Borna lovers in this thread.
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    manTOman reacted to + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Over the years, I have been lucky to see Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal play often at the US Open. But, Novak Djokovic only once.
     
    Still, I greatly enjoyed Djokovic's playful imitation of the top tennis players, male and female.
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    manTOman reacted to + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Novak Djokovic asks his fan base to remember the lines woman, whom he hit with a ball, did absolutely nothing wrong
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    manTOman got a reaction from MikeBiDude in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Thank you for pointing that out. The guy was deeply concerned and genuine. Yet for some no matter what he does he will always be vilified to no end.
    He also was very honest in his apology for the incident, taking blame for his own behavior and saying he needs to grow as a player and a human being.
    [MEDIA=instagram]CE0AzAOH2cp[/MEDIA]
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    manTOman got a reaction from bluestorm in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Sorry
     

     
    That's Dominic Thiem. My pic to win the tournament
     

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    manTOman got a reaction from + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Thank you for pointing that out. The guy was deeply concerned and genuine. Yet for some no matter what he does he will always be vilified to no end.
    He also was very honest in his apology for the incident, taking blame for his own behavior and saying he needs to grow as a player and a human being.
    [MEDIA=instagram]CE0AzAOH2cp[/MEDIA]
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    manTOman reacted to + WilliamM in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    .I disagree with the word "sauntered," and have watched the replay several times.
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    manTOman reacted to BSR in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Borna Coric
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YnHQqx4tRFo/WK-f5PxhtOI/AAAAAAAAC0g/c8WvjqgV0I4aXb0d34WM9BVqkBIQhDgAACK4B/s1600/16_zpsj4gudctm.jpg
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    manTOman got a reaction from Daverwr in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    Sorry
     

     
    That's Dominic Thiem. My pic to win the tournament
     

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    manTOman got a reaction from + Charlie in 2020 US Open Tennis   
    I think some of the comments on here are a bit too harsh. Djokovic has his antics and gets too intense, but I think he's only fault is that he's the third leg in the rivalry. Throughout history there's always been two and with Federer and Nadal already at their full peak, no one wanted a third, and Novak willed himself into that equation. The comment of him calling for a trainer is completely uncalled for. He is always very gracious in his loses and credits the winner.
    He definitely has some growing up to do, and tone down his outburst, but I've seen Federer break racquets and yell and be intense too. Especially when his loses started to creep up more after his peak years. And apparently Mirka is one of the worst at booing his opponents and distracting them. There's been a well documented screaming match between Federer and his long time friend Wawrinka, after a semifinal of the Year End championship some years ago about the Mirka factor/issue.
    Out of the three Nadal is the only one that has constantly displays down-to-earth attitude. But all three of them are great champions and great role models. With greatness comes a great ego too and that needs to be kept in check at times. That's true of Serena, Graff, and many others. The only difference is that Djokovic is the least liked of the three, and that will stay that way regardless of his number of Slams.
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    manTOman got a reaction from + harey in 411 XLMTL or MTLbeardedstud   
    thanks for the input Gents!
    I think he might be "misrepresenting" his weight. He unlocked his pics and his body definitely looks lean but very muscular. I'd guess more in the 185 lbs range.
    However haven't heard back from him since he unlocked his pics though.
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    manTOman reacted to + purplekow in Ryan Murphy does it again - HOLLYWOOD.   
    It is not just the happy ending itself that ruined the last episode for me, it was that the happy ending was soooo fucking happy. My complaint that it was not true to the times is valid but it was not even true to the movie. The nominations of the characters was vindication, the wins went beyond the pale for me. That the male lead characters wind up together is a small believable step, That the characters have public displays of affection on the red carpet or at the ceremony, again takes what was true to the story past the abilty for me to suspend disbelief.
    Still, I would watch season 2, only if to find out that the last episode was all an orgasmic dream Rock Hudson had while Tyrone Power blew him. .
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