Bargara Leatherboy

this is a very interesting situation.
 
As a 65 year old man of size - I describe myself in my first communication with a provider - as such 
65 yr old blonde bear 120KG clean shaven looking for .......    a 2 hour meeting on Tuesday night if you can host that would be great .....
First up it gives them to opportunity to say no - it won't work, or ghost me, or start a conversation along the lines of that works for me,  I note your interest in bondage or ws etc and go from there.
When I am hiring I don't care how they act as long as they get into it - satisfy my needs and its a cordial pleasant meeting.
Equally if I am in an expensive restaurant I want the waiter to tell me what the side dishes are, his recommendations and share his knowledge about the French burgundy I am considering ordering - does it go with the fish etc (and we know red does not normally ).
Its a service I am paying for and I expect the provider to be able to provide a good meeting based on ABC and D and do it with a smile on his face, some sexy sounds of appreciation and groans when he cums.
The provider has chosen his line of work - the rest does not matter to me.
Because of my approach and vetting I am rarely disappointed 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

this is a very interesting situation.
 
As a 65 year old man of size - I describe myself in my first communication with a provider - as such 
65 yr old blonde bear 120KG clean shaven looking for .......    a 2 hour meeting on Tuesday night if you can host that would be great .....
First up it gives them to opportunity to say no - it won't work, or ghost me, or start a conversation along the lines of that works for me,  I note your interest in bondage or ws etc and go from there.
When I am hiring I don't care how they act as long as they get into it - satisfy my needs and its a cordial pleasant meeting.
Equally if I am in an expensive restaurant I want the waiter to tell me what the side dishes are, his recommendations and share his knowledge about the French burgundy I am considering ordering - does it go with the fish etc (and we know red does not normally ).
Its a service I am paying for and I expect the provider to be able to provide a good meeting based on ABC and D and do it with a smile on his face, some sexy sounds of appreciation and groans when he cums.
The provider has chosen his line of work - the rest does not matter to me.
Because of my approach and vetting I am rarely disappointed 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Yes Bargara, you exactly said what I and my belt would do with you. Just thinking of it makes me horny

I guess you always have a belt with you. - so you could spank my ass in any situation......  not just when we are in the playroom ...... when you might use the belt and a flogger and a paddle - and alternate - my skin is tingling just thinking about it 
 
 

When he finally did come out, Ed Smart said, “It is not my responsibility to tell the [Mormon] church, its members or its leadership what to believe about the rightness or wrongness of being LGBTQ.” Actually, it is his responsibility - a healthy rather than authoritarian church embraces it, since its followers are the church - but the closet is a cruel legacy. 😕

Trudeau. I’ll even sign the nda. 

Nawin Wannvong

Hi Baragara 
I have many fantasies but one that stands out is how I want to be bottomed with other men and even women watching.  I want to show them how I enjoy it. 

sounds great - I am sure this would be an amazing discussion --
 
what are your fantasies - and congrats on discovering men - I have never been with a woman  - but men are amazing 

Love a man in sexy underwear - I like that bulge - even when I know what his cock looks like, tastes like, feels like, I like the hidden mystery of unwrapping or sliding those underwear down to discover the prize.
 
its great foreplay 

I am bi, married, older man, who just discovered men in the last few months. And I amazed at how pleasurable and enjoyable being with a man can be!
 
My favorite fantasy is to be spit roasted between my two favorite providers. I would be in a doggie style position. My mouth would be penetrated forcefully by my masculine, furry, girthy, muscular provider, standing in front of me.  At the same, my ass would aggressively being bred by my lightly hairy, handsome Latino provider, with his 9 inch tool. The sounds of them moaning, me gagging on my furry men’s tool and my muffled moaning, as my guy’s large tool ravishes my hole with pleasure during this encounter aways gets me hot!  Yikes! This may be too explicit for some readers! lol 
 

sounds great - I am sure this would be an amazing discussion --
 
what are your fantasies - and congrats on discovering men - I have never been with a woman  - but men are amazing 

My husband and I started planning out retirement about 15 years before we made the change.
I can remember asking the question - once when we were on vacation - 
 
"what do you see retirement being "  ?  the response was 'living like this"
 
we then had a checklist of all the things we needed to be able to access in retirement.
 
close to a beach
close to An airport 
close to an alternative transport option
great medical facilities
some culture .
I knew that we needed to move out of Sydney (big city) to make the most of the difference in property prices.
I was on vacation when I found where we live now.
I did lots of research.
I sold my husband on what I had found.
The pandemic stopped us discovering it for a year or two.
Some things happened in my husband's workplace - and covid made us speed up the process.
We found what we wanted off the plan, put a 1K refundable deposit down and went home to renovate and sell our Sydney home.
 
So start with your wish list and work it out from there .....
 
Take your time - as the rest of your life has to be almost perfect 
 
 
 

My husband and I started planning out retirement about 15 years before we made the change.
I can remember asking the question - once when we were on vacation - 
 
"what do you see retirement being "  ?  the response was 'living like this"
 
we then had a checklist of all the things we needed to be able to access in retirement.
 
close to a beach
close to An airport 
close to an alternative transport option
great medical facilities
some culture .
I knew that we needed to move out of Sydney (big city) to make the most of the difference in property prices.
I was on vacation when I found where we live now.
I did lots of research.
I sold my husband on what I had found.
The pandemic stopped us discovering it for a year or two.
Some things happened in my husband's workplace - and covid made us speed up the process.
We found what we wanted off the plan, put a 1K refundable deposit down and went home to renovate and sell our Sydney home.
 
So start with your wish list and work it out from there .....
 
Take your time - as the rest of your life has to be almost perfect 
 
 
 

Au contraire. Unlike a brick and mortar store, a provider is selling his services. And very intimate services. If a provider is turned off by the thought of being affectionate with a grossly overweight client (which is not unreasonable), it is far better to tell the client that he is not a good fit, rather than going ahead with a meet-up, only to give a subpar performance. It is much like when Bozo is perusing the ads and sees a provider covered in ink, or have an unappealing body. Some of those guys would literally have to pay Bozo, and in some cases, pay a lot of $$, for personal intimacy with them. Much as we clients have our personal turn-ons and turn-offs, providers are no different. 
The one thing we agree upon is that a provider saying to an obese, in some cases morbidly obese, client that he is not a "good fit" says a lot about the provider. You are correct. What it says is that the provider is being upfront, candid, empathetic, and most importantly, that he is willing to turn down his fee in order not to disappoint the client. It also saves the client his time, energy, a disappointing rendezvous, and his $$$.
Telling a client that he is not a good fit, compared to the other available options, is a positive reflection on the provider's virtue. Bozo only wishes there were more providers with those qualities.... many more.
BTC
🤡

Gay men pay too much attention to body type. I've had encounters with chubby guys that are more gratifying than fit/muscle guys. 
I have a congenital birth defect that was somewhat corrected with surgery. Many guys get the ick when they notice it and the chemistry evaporates. I don't disclose this to guys because many people didn't notice it and I often forget that I'm a little different. I've only had one provider break things off because of it. 
Lastly, I've gone from fat to chubby to fit several times in my life. Honestly, I get more action when I'm chubby. Fit muscle guys that are model hot are extremely picky so even when I'm slim and well muscled they won't want me because I'm mid 40s or my congenital defect or they only want black guys or Latin or some other fantasy they have in their head. 
Bottom line: do what makes you happy and ignore the haters. They are just jealous that we get to eat carbs and ice cream. If a provider can't accept your weight that's his problem.

I am a large chub /bear.
I always ask the question when speaking with a potential escort, I describe my height and weight and ask if they are good with it.
Some have said - no we are not a fit and that cool.
 
Others have been fine - and they are the men who get my $.
I have to say honesty works and I rarely have a session where I don't enjoy myself.
 
However that poster who gave such amazing advice like, loose weight, stop hiring is just an ass.   Providers if they can manage us earn a lot from us, as we are unlikely to get picked up in a bar or at a bathhouse.  So we choose to hire ......
 

Well yes it maybe cruel, but its better to be rejected when you make the first enquiry rather than be rejected at the door (and that has happened).
I like to find a solution to every problem.
 
Problem is as a larger man - not everyone is attracted to you - but then everyone regardless of their physic is not attractive to everyone.
 
When I hire I want bang for my buck - if its not a fit - its not a fit and I would prefer to not waste time on those who are not a fit.
 
Is it cruel to go shopping for something you want - say a car - and finding the one that really suits you - are the other cars you reject suffering because the process of elimination is cruel.
 
Jay-lucas I thank you for your empathy - but I do not see it as cruel, its part of the due diligence you should do when you hire someone.
 
I have had escorts tell me that I am a great client as I am respectful, honest about what I want - show up on time and pay the agreed amount (here in Australia tipping is not part of our culture, but sometimes I tip) but the greatest compliment you can give an escort is hiring them again 

I am a large chub /bear.
I always ask the question when speaking with a potential escort, I describe my height and weight and ask if they are good with it.
Some have said - no we are not a fit and that cool.
 
Others have been fine - and they are the men who get my $.
I have to say honesty works and I rarely have a session where I don't enjoy myself.
 
However that poster who gave such amazing advice like, loose weight, stop hiring is just an ass.   Providers if they can manage us earn a lot from us, as we are unlikely to get picked up in a bar or at a bathhouse.  So we choose to hire ......
 

Yeah it was certainly one of those hirings that stays in the wank bank .....
It was not quite what I expected but totally enjoyable 

Well yes it maybe cruel, but its better to be rejected when you make the first enquiry rather than be rejected at the door (and that has happened).
I like to find a solution to every problem.
 
Problem is as a larger man - not everyone is attracted to you - but then everyone regardless of their physic is not attractive to everyone.
 
When I hire I want bang for my buck - if its not a fit - its not a fit and I would prefer to not waste time on those who are not a fit.
 
Is it cruel to go shopping for something you want - say a car - and finding the one that really suits you - are the other cars you reject suffering because the process of elimination is cruel.
 
Jay-lucas I thank you for your empathy - but I do not see it as cruel, its part of the due diligence you should do when you hire someone.
 
I have had escorts tell me that I am a great client as I am respectful, honest about what I want - show up on time and pay the agreed amount (here in Australia tipping is not part of our culture, but sometimes I tip) but the greatest compliment you can give an escort is hiring them again 

I am a large chub /bear.
I always ask the question when speaking with a potential escort, I describe my height and weight and ask if they are good with it.
Some have said - no we are not a fit and that cool.
 
Others have been fine - and they are the men who get my $.
I have to say honesty works and I rarely have a session where I don't enjoy myself.
 
However that poster who gave such amazing advice like, loose weight, stop hiring is just an ass.   Providers if they can manage us earn a lot from us, as we are unlikely to get picked up in a bar or at a bathhouse.  So we choose to hire ......
 

I had an interesting threesome - I had been checking out a hot provider in my town (he no longer advertises.   He was definitely a hot leather man master , we set up a time and my instructions were to arrive at a st corner ring him and he would provide directions.  I was also directed to have the fee in my right side pocket.
Arrived at the intersection rang, got told to go to a roller garage door. - slide it up, walk inside, turn around slide the garage door down and stand with my hands above my head facing the garage door.
I did - and heard his footsteps - and them the feel of is body pressed against mine. He removed my glasses, slipped a eye mask over my eyes and told me to follow him.
I ended up in a room with him, still blind folded, although I could see a little out the bottom of the eye mask.  we had some conversation, we had already talked about what I wanted and limits etc.   he then said he had not mentioned that he had a hot blonde Russian body builder as a slave and was I happy for him to join it.
Of course I said yes, He said - Ok will go and get him. I could hear the conversation, basically yes he is happy for you to join in.
So in comes the two of them, master fully clothed in boots jeans and a harness under a leather jacket, studly slave naked except for a collar.
I was ordered to do various fun activities like kiss the slave, bit his nipples, play with his cock, suck his cock, then the play turned to the master who wanted his cock sucked , some spanking and flogging continued, with what I could not take the slave getting,  It was a hot session ended up with a wild sharing of hot loads.
Sometimes you just have to go with the flow - this one worked out and was excellent.
I had another with two hot escorts in Melbourne,  I had contacted both of them separately and had some detailed conversations with the more kinkier one first, but I was very attracted to the physical appearance of the second.  The second one mentioned that he did 3 sums with number 1 so I explored that option.    Number 2 said he was not very kinky but when he was in a 3sum with number 1 he got more kinky than he usually was.
So the night happened, I was in Melbourne and staying at the Gatehouse - a guesthouse with 2 sling rooms that you could rent for the night, or hours, I was staying there.
That night was more than I could have hopped for, as both men were sexy, in different ways and we had lots of fun, and they had some fun with each other too.  
That one will be a repeat sometime.
 
Try it - the real secret is communication.  
 
 
 
 

I had an interesting threesome - I had been checking out a hot provider in my town (he no longer advertises.   He was definitely a hot leather man master , we set up a time and my instructions were to arrive at a st corner ring him and he would provide directions.  I was also directed to have the fee in my right side pocket.
Arrived at the intersection rang, got told to go to a roller garage door. - slide it up, walk inside, turn around slide the garage door down and stand with my hands above my head facing the garage door.
I did - and heard his footsteps - and them the feel of is body pressed against mine. He removed my glasses, slipped a eye mask over my eyes and told me to follow him.
I ended up in a room with him, still blind folded, although I could see a little out the bottom of the eye mask.  we had some conversation, we had already talked about what I wanted and limits etc.   he then said he had not mentioned that he had a hot blonde Russian body builder as a slave and was I happy for him to join it.
Of course I said yes, He said - Ok will go and get him. I could hear the conversation, basically yes he is happy for you to join in.
So in comes the two of them, master fully clothed in boots jeans and a harness under a leather jacket, studly slave naked except for a collar.
I was ordered to do various fun activities like kiss the slave, bit his nipples, play with his cock, suck his cock, then the play turned to the master who wanted his cock sucked , some spanking and flogging continued, with what I could not take the slave getting,  It was a hot session ended up with a wild sharing of hot loads.
Sometimes you just have to go with the flow - this one worked out and was excellent.
I had another with two hot escorts in Melbourne,  I had contacted both of them separately and had some detailed conversations with the more kinkier one first, but I was very attracted to the physical appearance of the second.  The second one mentioned that he did 3 sums with number 1 so I explored that option.    Number 2 said he was not very kinky but when he was in a 3sum with number 1 he got more kinky than he usually was.
So the night happened, I was in Melbourne and staying at the Gatehouse - a guesthouse with 2 sling rooms that you could rent for the night, or hours, I was staying there.
That night was more than I could have hopped for, as both men were sexy, in different ways and we had lots of fun, and they had some fun with each other too.  
That one will be a repeat sometime.
 
Try it - the real secret is communication.  
 
 
 
 

I had an interesting threesome - I had been checking out a hot provider in my town (he no longer advertises.   He was definitely a hot leather man master , we set up a time and my instructions were to arrive at a st corner ring him and he would provide directions.  I was also directed to have the fee in my right side pocket.
Arrived at the intersection rang, got told to go to a roller garage door. - slide it up, walk inside, turn around slide the garage door down and stand with my hands above my head facing the garage door.
I did - and heard his footsteps - and them the feel of is body pressed against mine. He removed my glasses, slipped a eye mask over my eyes and told me to follow him.
I ended up in a room with him, still blind folded, although I could see a little out the bottom of the eye mask.  we had some conversation, we had already talked about what I wanted and limits etc.   he then said he had not mentioned that he had a hot blonde Russian body builder as a slave and was I happy for him to join it.
Of course I said yes, He said - Ok will go and get him. I could hear the conversation, basically yes he is happy for you to join in.
So in comes the two of them, master fully clothed in boots jeans and a harness under a leather jacket, studly slave naked except for a collar.
I was ordered to do various fun activities like kiss the slave, bit his nipples, play with his cock, suck his cock, then the play turned to the master who wanted his cock sucked , some spanking and flogging continued, with what I could not take the slave getting,  It was a hot session ended up with a wild sharing of hot loads.
Sometimes you just have to go with the flow - this one worked out and was excellent.
I had another with two hot escorts in Melbourne,  I had contacted both of them separately and had some detailed conversations with the more kinkier one first, but I was very attracted to the physical appearance of the second.  The second one mentioned that he did 3 sums with number 1 so I explored that option.    Number 2 said he was not very kinky but when he was in a 3sum with number 1 he got more kinky than he usually was.
So the night happened, I was in Melbourne and staying at the Gatehouse - a guesthouse with 2 sling rooms that you could rent for the night, or hours, I was staying there.
That night was more than I could have hopped for, as both men were sexy, in different ways and we had lots of fun, and they had some fun with each other too.  
That one will be a repeat sometime.
 
Try it - the real secret is communication.