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I wonder if it just seems creepy to us as gay men. I can imagine that whoever made this decision back then simply didn't even think about whether either the younger or older men were gay, so to them it just seemed like two men sharing sleeping quarters with no notion that sexual attraction/attention would enter the picture.

Yes, I thought about it after I posted. I didn't mean to give the impression that the guy has no standards. I just meant that I've seen content he's filmed with guys who aren't especially lean and whom he described as "older," though I have no idea what his upper age limit is.

I'm sure most of us have been rejected many times. One that stands out in my mind occurred about 30 years ago -- in other words, shortly before the internet started to get used by the masses. I don't remember how we first communicated, but it was probably via a personal ad in a gay newspaper. At any rate, I don't think we had exchanged photos but we had a nice, long conversation and the phone and agreed that we had a lot in common so we might become friends even if we didn't click physically. We set a date for him to come over to my apartment to pick me up to drive to the beach. When I opened the door to walk down the steps to meet him, he immediately said "this isn't going to work" and he walked away. I remember laughing because it was so absurd, even though my ego was obviously also bruised a bit. He was attractive but not exceptionally so, so that softened the blow. That was one of my early lessons as a gay man that even if a guy on a dating app or platform says he's open to making friends, he likely won't actually be interested in becoming friends unless he also wants to have sex with you.

I've seen a lot of his videos and they feature a variety of looks in terms of scene partners (including some older bears), so even though the guy isn't available to hire he may be approachable in terms of collaborations as long as you're willing to be filmed. Some of his videos features guys wearing masks/hoods, so one wouldn't even necessarily reveal one's face in order to become a content creator.

I'm confused as to why he agreed to come over with an exit plan already in place since you wrote that you had already met for an extended coffee date. I think most men would simply decline the second date. Did something happen during your half hour breakfast that would make him want to leave? I mean, you yourself wrote that you were "glad that he left," so it sounds like things weren't going as well as during your initial coffee date.

The relevance of how long someone has been a member is simply that others here have little idea who you are. For example, you could be someone who's been active on the site for a long time but decided to create a new profile simply to promote a specific point of view or specific provider while not having your posts tied to your well known identity. At the end of the day, this deposit or no deposit issue will never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. It's clearly in the provider's benefit as long as he has sufficient business to make up for the loss of some clients who never pay a deposit. For a variety of reasons (privacy and concerns about being scammed being the top two) some clients will never pay a deposit. It isn't like either side is incorrect, even if some of the arguments for requiring a deposit are far off the mark. But I think even the "no deposits ever" clients here will acknowledge that a provider can run his business how he wants to (charge a higher than market rate, require a deposit, require a face photograph, etc), and they can simply book a different provider if they don't like those policies.

1. A client might also lose money if the escort flakes -- travel expenses and hotel expenses if he is hosting but cannot host where he lives. You might argue that losing money you already earned is not as bad as not getting income you were promised, but they're basically the same thing in the sense that both are losing money. The main difference would be for a provider that has no savings so the loss of income might result in him not being able to pay his bills. 2. For some of us, we don't have partners and it might not be that easy to open a hook-up app to find someone who interests us and is interested in us. Even the suggestion that a client can just hire another escort at the last minute isn't really true as lots of providers aren't available at the drop of a hat.

Same here. I think it's worse for the party that's planning to bottom -- all of that prep for a no show is irritating. Not that it isn't irritating anyway, but to have spent time preparing to bottom only to be ghosted is so frustrating.

The problem with that advice is that there are a lot of legitimate clients who won't pay a deposit unless it's for an extended booking, so that strategy will likely result in far fewer clients.

It isn't just clients' opinions about providers that aren't private. Anything you post here isn't private, unless the forum has changed since it moved to "companyofmen.org." I remember years ago that I showed a provider how his real identity could be figured out because he disclosed so many details of his private life here that if someone searched for that information (for example, I was the CEO at XYZ company in the 2000s) one of the search results would be that escort's postings about having held that job, connected, of course, to his escort persona here. He had no idea. So, as others have written, PMs aren't even necessarily private since they can obviously be shared, but at least they aren't searchable (to my knowledge). Anything that gets posted publicly here or anywhere isn't private and never has been.

Your thread title already has the answer -- it's a scammer profile. The very last text bubble you included reads, in part, "we can build a good home together as one" wouldn't be written in an initial text by any individual who is actually seeking a relationship. It's just a classic come-on, hoping to find someone desperate and naive enough to fall into fantasy land quickly and then respond affirmatively when asked for money. The extensive list of what they are allegedly looking for is another clue, compiled to attract the highest number of men but which breaks down a bit when analyzed. For example, the guy is looking for a chub or super chub but is also looking for a chaser; does that mean he's a chub and wants another chub? So, he's looking for both a sir and a boy, and a pup and pup handler. Don't men typically want to play a certain role in a relationship if they are into role playing like this, or is it common that a guy will want to be the boy or pup one moment and then the sir or pup handler the next?

I'm not in a state impacted by this, but in addition to the VPN work around I understand that these new state laws mostly impact the more popular/heavily trafficked sites. By that I mean that while PornHub has to comply, a smaller, less well known website might not. I get wanting to restrict access to porn to adults only, but shouldn't the onus be on the parents of children and not all of society? It's easy enough to restrict access on your own devices and/or your home network. Obviously kids could just access this stuff elsewhere (such as a friend whose parents don't bother using tools to limit access), but that was true even 50 years ago because I remember some boys in my class getting access to porn magazines (shoplifted or from an older sibling). If the government wants the onus to be on the websites to restrict access, maybe they should have put more thought into privacy and data security. I don't blame anyone in any of these states for looking into alternatives to scanning their driver's license and uploading it to a site like PornHub.

I was watching a YouTube interview of a popular Only Fans performer a few months ago, a guy who calls himself LetsEatCakeXx aka Kaden Hylls. If I recall correctly, he said he made about $70,000/month as a content creator. He is obviously a well known porn performer but I'm not sure that he ever did studio porn like Wolf so I was a bit surprised he was able to pull in that kind of money by creating porn. It's obviously a lucrative career, albeit not necessarily a long-term one, for those who have a look and demeanor that attracts subscribers.

I read the prosecutor's sentencing request. If you read their earlier court submissions, I'm not sure that anything in it is different. Yes, it's all quite disgusting but I don't think there are any new revelations in the sentencing request so if you're curious as to just how depraved "Austin Wolf" is and you read the earlier materials you don't need to read the latest court documents. I do wonder whether Co-conspirator-1 (CC-1), so far not named, is another well known porn performer or some person none of us would know once named.

Prepandemic I remember reading about people for hire to just cuddle and talk. I'd suggest that if you want to hire someone just to talk with that it would make more sense to hire a trained counselor than a sex worker, unless you want to just engage in sex talk.