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SIGH Looks like we might have to buy a strip club, guys.

I was there thisweekend. Sunday was pretty slow. They had the lights way up in the middle floor. It was weird. At least the trans girls weren't there on Sunday. There was 4-5 on previous days and they were pretty much just doing drugs with the twinks in those corner rooms when they weren't killing the vibe in other areas. Friday and Saturday were a lot better. I also noticed most of the guys wanted 50 euros but tried to charge more for "extras" (eg bottoming, no condom, etc). Every time I turned them down they went with 50 euros, so that's the going rate. I'm a top, I had a much harder time finding an escort than I usually do. Most guys are tops there now, and many of the ones that say they are vers couldn't handle bottoming. I did eventually find a few guys, and my go-to favorite, David (the Spaniard), showed up on Sunday and we had a blast. By far the best escort I've ever had.

I can't agree more. I stay at the Hilton Old Town (i am lucky enough to have access to a decent rate) and it has access to literally everything you need, and everything else is accessible by the transit system that literally runs through it.

It will be interesting to know if his sale included an noncompete

May I ask what that type is?

This made me chuckle

I'd like to know, too. I usually don't visit Zurich this time of year and I might plan a trip

I experienced them for the first time earlier in the year. They had a naked trans girl with them that had a LOT of work done and they took over the bar area. Everyone seems to avoid them

Gotta start following Juan

I can't say from personal experience since I look Mediterranean, but from what I witnessed at the two rentboy saunas in Europe, they have zero hangups when it comes to literally anything.

Oh it was super strange. The whole system is kinda crazy, but the bathroom was super clean. I wish I knew about the lower level, I was literally just having a bowel emergency.

I’m still shocked that with the open-mindedness of the Czechs and the high percentage of genuinely good looking young men under 25, the porn/stripper/escort market dried up so badly.

I went to the upper level bathrooms by the food court with the same payment setup. I literally just needed to use the bathroom. Thirty seconds into my deuce, a female attendant starts aggressively knocking on the door. She watched me go in, so it’s not like she suspected anything nefarious. It was not comfortable

There are workarounds if you can find a clever business lawyer. I remember some clubs in other states being "members only" establishments where you had to sign up and pay for an annual membership like you would with a country club, and you were therefore attending a private party with different rules. Other clubs had 2 separate clubs technically attached to each other.

If it's private, I can understand. They're literally hiding it. But if they have a public instagram, even if it's personal, that's completely fair and extremely common to see posted.

It's upstairs, tucked away near a corner. It's just a dark area with some sturdy lounge chairs. I see clients and providers napping there undisturbed. I even took a 20 minute nap in an unoccupied private room after getting hit with bad jet lag.

Visited last week. Definitely more Europeans, including some Romanians and Turks that surprisingly weren't sketchy. Barcelona has a much lower floor when it comes to quality of guys, but they both have the same ceiling. David, my favorite from Barcelona was there. He said business is way down in Barcelona (I literally hired him at Thermas last month). The facilities in Zurich are much nicer, and there is a nice nap area. But if you're visiting either city mainly to visit the saunas a few times, I agree with everyone here that Barcelona gives you more bang for your buck (pun intended).

Has anyone visited recently? I've never been to Zurich this time of year and was thinking of going next week. Was wondering if early afternoons are still best and what days are peak.

Yeah I've always used it interchangeably with "trade"

My first time ever at a strip club was at Remington's and a dancer tried to pull this shit on me and then had the gall to ask for a tip after, lol. I was a nervous kid but I told him to get a manager and he backed down. Also, I heard of one guy say the prices were in USD and pressured my friend to exchange rate his money, lol. I think the best tactic is to tell them exactly how many songs you want, they tell you when it starts, and they have to stop when it's over.

If he's sitting with you and it's wanted, and you are actively feeling him up, I'd think 100 pesos is good for ten minutes (that's $5 USD). Otherwise get rid of him with a couple of 20's, while you clearly say "not thanks," because they ignore obvious body language. Shower show at Wet Dreamz is 20 pesos for me, or $1 USD. They will come to you every 5 minutes and will drain your wallet. $500 pesos for a standard nude lap dance with touching and jerking for 10 minutes, plus the entry fee seems reasonable. That's going to be about $50 USD. If you go further and have oral, double that imo.

Yeah I’d probably say there were 3 guys each time I’d visit that were both good looking and good at sex. Definitely a major dip. And the number of guys that I wouldn’t have sex for free with definitely increased. I was shocked that I was approached by this poorly groomed, potbellied older fellow with really bad posture that turned out not to be a client. With that said, everyone will find at least one or two attractive guys at their visit that will offer cheap, good sex. So it’s absolutely still worth visiting

Still 50E and he let me drop my load in his ass. He has a friend named Francisco from Argentina, more of a pocket twink, But just as eager and energetic. Charged double for bareback though. Stayed at the B Hotel. Right next to the train station and mall with fast food and a grocery store. Maybe a 5 minute walk to the sauna at most, and rooms are inexpensive and huge by European standards.

I’ll look for him for sure today. On my first day I went with this Venezuelan twink, who was decent, and then David, the native Barcelonan. Normally I don’t guy for guys with a lot of random tattoos but this guy was to handsome and his ass was incredible. Best sex I’ve had in a year

Thanks for the update, super useful. I’m flying in tomorrow morning and was worried the off season would be a complete bust