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I disagree with your premise about LA. I find we have a great variety to chose from. I travel a bit and have seen the offering in other cities and I think we have it good. This site alone I’d say a good 30-40% of the discussions are about LA providers.
 
With so many choices there are bound to be average masseurs but I think that’s part of what makes it fun, there is always something new. And while it might be a hit or a miss part of the excitement is that sense of the unknown, not knowing where a session might go and being surprised and awed. While I have my 2-3 go to guys I still like to have new experiences and am glad I live where there are plenty of options.
 
Yes perhaps I’ve been doing this too long. I’ve seen the price points double in the 20 years since I started to partake of m4m massage services. I’ve seen guys come and go and think that I’ll never have experience like that again and then new guys show up to the scene and the cycle starts all over.

Jake! Oh man I had so much fun with him. So far my first and only Nuru experience was with him. Only uncomfortable part was it was on an inflatable mattress. Young guy in his 20s, he got super into it too. I think he got serious with his girl friend which is why he stopped doing erotic massages.
 

I recommend Dylan, aka Nerd with Big Hands on rentmasseur.com 
https://rentmasseur.com/NERDwBigHands
 
he has reviews on this site as well. Dm for more info 

I’m not too experienced bottoming but have done so a few times in the last year with a buddy of mine. For the novice bottom I found Pjur Analyse to be excellent. It has a relaxant (not numbing) jojoba that just made anal easier for me and more enjoyable. Honestly I was never a good bottom because I could never get past the pain of the cock going in, I could never relax enough. This lube does the trick for me in easing the initial push and letting me enjoy once it’s in. I’ve honestly bottomed more in the last 6 months thanks to it than I have in the past 20 years.

So I listened to @BeefyDude and tried scheduling with him one more time and finally got something set up.
 
Saw him a couple of hours ago and I concur with everybody else, he’s much better looking than his pics online suggest and the massage is good. One of the better sensual massages I’ve had.

I saw him last week and can confirm that he is both handsome and sexy. The massage was awesome - great strokes, very sensual and the ass focus was enjoyable. I'm pretty sure it could have been much more had I allowed it to happen....extras are always subject to having a connection and being in the right place at the right time. Highly recommended.

keep their skin pulled back behind their cock head even when flaccid?
 
The HOTNESS factor of an uncut cock is the skin over the head -- soft or hard!!

What a great conversation and advice. This really does give me hope for my relationship. I think this could be the secret to a successful relationship especially where there is an age difference or a difference in sex drive.

My husband and I have been together 26 years - have had an open relationship from the start... I'm 60, he's 56; we met when I was in London on business.
 
There was a fascinating book written in the early '90s called: The Male Couple - How Relationships Develop (McWhirter and Mattison). They followed all types of couples (young/old, young with old, same age, been together 1, 5, 10, 50 years), living together, living apart -- and from it deduced the various phases that relationships go through over time as each partner both assert their independence and then pull back together. I haven't read it for a long time; but certainly can now look back at both learning and unlearning skills the longer we're together. (he wouldn't recognize the dishwasher or washing machine if I glued flashing lights to them)... I'm not allowed to cook anything since an experimental beef stew with a dozen star anise cloves went horribly wrong 20 years ago....
 
From the start we were open and honest, the only rules were to try to avoid the same person more than three times, to always communicate if one of us was not showing up for dinner, and regardless of how late one of us were out the agreement was waking up next to the other the next morning. In my experience the open relationship was never an issue (and, to be honest, it was nice to be able to control the TV remote control on those rare nights).

There was never any doubt my partner and I were COMMITTED to each other, and the infidelities were agreed on at the on set of our relationship. I believe that if we didnt have this "arrangement", we never would have lasted for over 22 years together. Its not for everyone, you really have to be VERY VERY secure in your relationship, and without any jealous streaks.... Everyone is not built that way.

I am unlikely to consider anything more than 300 per hour. The cost/value proposition just isn't there from my perspective. I have never been brave enough to hire for more than 2 hours - I am sure an overnight has its merits, but don't think it is for me. Have had a companion stay overnight at my place, but after our fun time (for which I paid) it was sleepy time and I was very respectful of his presence.
 

Same experience for me, and I saw him twice just to make sure the first time wasn’t a fluke. I too have a thing for Thai/Asian masseurs and for the most part find them exceptional. Yes Kyle is very much the exception: disengaged, inattentive and a poor massage too boot. His photos lead you believe he’s playful, even mischievous with that cute smile but you get none of that in the session.

60 min massage was about 35 minutes. HE, MT, but he was a little aloof. Would not repeat.
 
sam

For me thumbs downnnnnnn

For me thumbs downnnnnnn

Good thread. The conventional wisdom is when the economy is bad prices go down. First more people get into the business to make ends meet so there is a supply glut. Second, with the economic uncertainties people will pull back on spending. The pandemic has thrown a whole other layer to that with people forgoing massages due to social distancing concerns. I got to believe business has not been good over the last couple of months. I’ve definitely cut back but did sneak out to see one of my regulars last month and he confirmed business has been really bad. He used to see 2-3 clients a day and more on the weekend. Now it might be one a day or several days with none. His price hasn’t changed, I don’t think him lowering his rate would make a difference right now since he already charges a reasonable rate.

Good thread. The conventional wisdom is when the economy is bad prices go down. First more people get into the business to make ends meet so there is a supply glut. Second, with the economic uncertainties people will pull back on spending. The pandemic has thrown a whole other layer to that with people forgoing massages due to social distancing concerns. I got to believe business has not been good over the last couple of months. I’ve definitely cut back but did sneak out to see one of my regulars last month and he confirmed business has been really bad. He used to see 2-3 clients a day and more on the weekend. Now it might be one a day or several days with none. His price hasn’t changed, I don’t think him lowering his rate would make a difference right now since he already charges a reasonable rate.

Happy to report that Thiago is not too good to be true. I met him this morning, and he has a personality to match his body, welcoming and accommodating. Today was his last day in SF, but I recommend him wholeheartedly if he shows up near you!

Happy to report that Thiago is not too good to be true. I met him this morning, and he has a personality to match his body, welcoming and accommodating. Today was his last day in SF, but I recommend him wholeheartedly if he shows up near you!

Now I suppose you are going to have to eat while spending time in Puerto Vallarta. In all of Mexico only Mexico City has a better selection of outstanding restaurants than Puerto Vallarta. Here are a few of my very favorites:
 
Breakfast: Coco's Kitchen, Pulpito 122 Colonia Olas Altas - great garden in which to eat, Fredy's Tucan, Basilio Badillo 245 Colonia Emiliano Zapata - very American style coffee shop.
 
Lunch: Joe Jack's Fish Shack, Basilio Badillo 212 Colonia Emiliano Zapata - great for fish and chips and fried shrimp and chips. Kesslar loves their mojitos.
 
Dinner: Trio, Guerrero 264 Colonia Centro - over many years my P.V. favorite restaurant especially for continental food, El Brujo, Venustiano Carranza 510 Colonia Emiliano Zapata - my favorite Mexican restaurant, Archie's Wok, Calle Francisco Rodriguez 130 Colonia Emiliano Zapata - excellent pan-Asian food (Pilipino, Chinese, Japanese, Malay and Indian), Chenan2, Lazaro Cardenas 520 Colonia Emiliano Zapata - great family run restaurant with very nice beef dishes, 116 Pulpito Gastro Bar, Pulpito 116 ColoniaEmiliano Zapata - great tapas - have a reservation or arrive early OR expect to wait.
 
In my, not so humble, opinion the one things that the Mexicans prepare better than anyone else in the world is FISH. I'm not much of a fish person but I salivate just thinking about the wonderful ways they prepare huachinango (red snapper). Shrimp, lobster, calamari and octopus are all wonderful.
 
P.S. Many people love Cafe des Artistes, Calle Guadalupe Sanchez 700 Colonia Centro. Frankly I have always found it pretentious and over priced.

his link in RM hasn’t changed, he’s still Krisswan:
https://rent.men/KrisswanAsian
 
And no AlexStar is not him, that’s a different person.
 

There were issues related to his being trans. I fully support trans folks. But having dated a transguy, I don’t think I’m cut out for the social demands it requires. And as a bottom, as much as I was into him, I couldn’t have the same sexual satisfaction I do with a cisgendered man.

I agree with @BeefyDude, whenever I read good review from the forum and book an appointment with a said provider, the least I expect is a good massage. Anything more would just a plus. I try not to have too much expectation because every experience is unique to each individual.

I am proud to say I have a hot butt... he wanted in it so badly. I mean bad.. but i don't do sex with massages. We still had a good session
I recall him not being as built as his profile pics and ad though